MJ415 2,143 Views
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I think they are interviewing all the candidates that qualify. You know; BSN, high GPA, girl scout with medals, able to sing and dance while performing brain surgery blindfolded, with an IQ above 190, people that only pee once a month and can tap dance like Fred Astaire after 12 hours on their feet. The usual... I know it's hard everyone, I am one of the 600 as well and nervous about it, but you know in the big scheme of things, tomorrow is Christmas Eve. Take a deep breath, be happy for what you have accomplished so far, finishing school and passing Nclex and enjoy the holidays at home with the loved ones because YOU WILL get a job in the new year. All of us will, we are needed and our work was not in vain. Next year we will all spend Christmas a work so enjoy being off. Happy Holidays everyone!:christmasball:
Thanks again to all the Filipino nurses out there who took the time to respond to my question. I think that openly talking about and discussing these issues with each other is important. It allows us to develop a better understanding of one another and our backgrounds. I think that its when we don't ask these questions that we tend to build "walls"
To those of you that were all too keen to take offence, well I'm sorry you feel that way. But do you think that keeping my question to myself would have helped? If I hadn't asked then I would be left to form my own opinions as to why so many Fillipino nurses are working here in Canada without the input of the actual Filipino nurses.
Its when people don't understand one another when problems arise. Whats wrong with making an effort to better understand another group of people?
It must be very hard for the OP to understand the desire to travel and see the world. I am guessing that the OP has never been out the 50 mile radius of her small town. Why dont you try to leave the tiny box that you live in and go get a job in Alaska, or Hawaii, or the Phillipines? Just for the experience? Like they say, small town, small mind.
If you're in high school and have not yet gotten a bachelors degree, I think nursing is a reasonable to good choice for an undergraduate degree. I had a friend who did this and found it extremely useful in terms of being comfortable in the hospital and around patients, basic assessment, patient interaction, administrative stuff, etc. He's doing extremely well in medical school, and is able to pick up an emergency room shift once a week while going through it. Of course nursing and medicine are different fields, but so are say biochemistry or history and medicine - you have to do an undergrad degree first no matter what, might as well do one that will give you a head start in the healthcare field, and who knows, you may decide nursing fits better with your personality and goals.
I went back to school as a career changer and a second degree seeker. That said, if something fell in my lap, after I complete the program, that I'd rather be doing aside from nursing then yeah I'd pursue it.
I started this semester and it has been one hell of a roller coaster ride.
The clinicals have got to be the best learning experience for me because you get to experience RL situations that you only learn from experience.
The classes are okay. I would recommend reading the health assessment materials as soon as you can get your hands on the textbooks.
There's A LOT of reading, so get started as soon as possible.
Pharmacology is a butt kicker but fun at the same time. LOTS and LOTS of drugs to memorize.
Most of us who stated this semester are barely getting enough sleep, usually 4 - 5 hours a night. It is very tiring, but can also be rewarding. You get to meet new friends that share common interests who you can vent, scream and break down on, when you feel overwhelmed.
I can go on and on about my experience, but I do not want to scare you- haha!
If you have any more questions about the program, do not hesitate to ask. I will most likely be presenting at the orientation on the 29th along with 3 classmates to share our experiences during our first semester.
Nursing is what we make it to be.
I think it was Abe Lincoln who was credited for saying something like, "Most people are as happy as they make up their minds to be." So, in line with that premise, we can also understand that most people are as happy in their jobs as they make up their minds to be.
Too often we believe if we follow a certain course, we will be happy: I'm not happy now, but doing this certain thing will make me happy.
Daniel Gilbert, in his book, Stumbling on Happiness refers to how we will be in the future as our "future prodigy". He contends that our current selves do not know how to make our future prodigy happy. But we try, anyway.
Those Nurses who are unhappy with their jobs were probably unhappy with whatever they were doing before they became Nurses. It's more of a personality thing than a job thing.
Daniel Gilbert also says that we feel better if we have someone or something to blame for our unhappiness. Nursing is as good a thing to place the blame on as anything else.
I believe that "My happiness does not depend on what others do or say or what happens around me. My happiness is a result of being at peace with myself."
Did you get one for said physician? If you did, then you are reinforcing this behaviour. We often allow this to occur and in essence train people to act like this.
I work with several nurses who grew up in the Philippines. Two of them speak very grammatically correct, only-slightly-accented English. Another, who has lived in Canada for more than 30 years, still has such a thick accent and poor grammar that I can hardly understand her. Her handwriting and written English don't help much, since I can't read her charting so may be missing important information. But this issue isn't limited to people from the Philippines... we have residents and fellows from all over the world working at our hospital and the tower of Babel would be a walk in the park some days compared to working on our unit. Some of the middle eastern countries have very difficult accents. I find myself asking these doctors to repeat themselves over and over, and then I may even need them to write it down for me... and hope I can understand what they've written. People's lives are at stake. For these reasons, it's essential that minimum standards are set for fluency.
I have an acquaintance that wants to be a CRNA. No mention of being an RN first or how long it would take her to do it, just wants to be a CRNA. She's mentioned not wanting to work as an RN in the middle to avoid bedside nursing and "butt wiping" and just wants to go and get her Master's. She thinks being a CRNA is easy.
As a nursing student in an ADN program, I value bedside nursing and no matter what my wage may be in the future, I would like to stay at bedside. I don't think this person really knows what nursing is and I think she just wants to be a CRNA because of the money. She never seemed like a caring person, is quick to throw tantrums and has no patience at home. I do wish her the best with whatever career she likes, but it feels like she is turning up her nose at the line of work that I want to do. Does it bother you when you meet people like this?
No, it doesn't bother me. As long as she can put patients to sleep safely, why do I care?
As an aside, I don't think bedside nurses have an exclusive knowledge of what "nursing really is". There are tons of different kinds of nurses and I'm sure they have a pretty good idea of what nursing is, too.
I really hope you like bedside...... but you might reconsider, when you are actually there, that you will do it "no matter what the wage is". Just a thought.
I have been there...its a tough decision:
I am now 27, been an icu nurse for 5 years... and have just finished my 1st year of CRNA school.
I graduated with my BSN and knew I wanted to become a CRNA the moment I heard of the profession. I went into a Cardiac Surgery icu within 6 months of becoming a new RN. Upon entering the ICU, i felt this deep desire to go to medical school..i wanted to know everything..
Nursing: is incredibly challenging, contrary to public knowledge (men my age would always ask me if i gave bed baths for a living - jerks) . We are the true advocates for our patients, and that means always looking and thinking for what could be better. Nurses are great problem solvers. We influence every dose change, new medication, and the needs of the patient and family. I have recieved thank you notes and cards from past patients which I kept throughout the years, which looking back: makes all the tough times worth it. My assessments and actions have saved lives through the years and I am proud of the work I did as an ICU nurse.
I decided to embark on Medical school....taking chemistry and physics classes at night school (while working 40 hours as a new icu rn). EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT in my unit shook their heads. Telling me not to do it. They were 26-28 years old, in their second year of residency, and spent 110 hours per week in the hospital.
My first year of nursing, i made 55K. The fellow i worked with: at 33 years old: made 53 that year: working twice the hours I did.
Money is not everything..but it made me realize how tough residency is. I had to weigh Lifestyle vs. Career. I knew I wanted a family, and so the thought of going through that for the next 10 years: I couldnt see the reason. I wanted more independence, and i knew that becoming a CRNA would satisfy that want.
So...i dropped out of chemistry (my 68 average helped that decision - i never had time to study). And i focused on my nursing. I traveled to cali, lived my 20's to the fullest, and eventually made the decision to go for CRNA school.
I sometimes wish I had the MD next to my name...maybe its just pride, maybe I want the respect and for people to take me seriously. People still think I give bed baths for a living.
After 1 year of CRNA school: I am glad for my decision. This is the hardest thing I have ever done, but I dont regret it for a minute. I know I am going to love being a CRNA - its one of the best decisions I have made in my life. I spoke to one of my old-residents the other day: he's still a resident. We graduate the same year: He starts his fellowship in 2009. I dont know how he does it - i give him so much credit. but I am very grateful for where I am now.
I hope that gives a little insight:
I'm sure this is an agonizing decision, and one I can certainly empathize with.
When I was in my mid-twenties I left the military and was on the pre-med route. I did very well in the classes and maintained a 4.0 GPA, but found that I had to work extremely hard to keep that level. At that point in my life I decided that I didn't want to sacrifice everything for 6+ more years in order to go to med school. Things like buying a home and possibly building a family were just too important. So I switched my major to nursing and made a promise to myself that I would at least obtain a Master's degree.
In nursing school I enjoyed learning the science, but often felt it stopped short of what I craved to learn. The physiology didn't go as deep and I had hoped and I was somewhat dissatisfied, but continued and became a RN. I often wondered if I had made the right decision, but after working in the hospital and seeing the hours the residents and even the attendings put in I was more convinced I had. In just a few years I was working normal hours and had an income that allowed me to have a life. If I had continued the medicine route that would have all been put off much longer.
Then my story continues since I had made that promise to myself to go to grad school. I started work as a RN in a CICU then after a while transfered to PACU. It was there that my curiosity and intrigue with anesthesia began. The more I looked into the field and spent time working with anesthetists, the more I wanted to go that route. Long story short, I am now in anesthesia school and feel that I am on the correct path. Finally I feel like I am learning the depth of physiology and science that I had craved in nursing school. Also, I'm able to apply what I learned as a critical care nurse to my current practice. For me, giving up the med school dream was the right one. I love what I am doing now and do not feel that I sold myself short. It is hard enough to keep me challenged and interested, but not so overwhelming that I feel I can't finish.
This is just my story, and every situation is different. You have to consider your short term and long term goals, and also your priorities. The route to becoming a CRNA is not short or necessarily easy, but you can take some breaks along the way and catch your breath. However, you don't want to live the rest of your life wondering "what if?". If you have the time, commitment, and drive then you may not feel satisfied unless you pursue medicine.
Please let your instructor know. This nurse needs to be reported. This is far beyond "dark humor." This nurse should not have patients or students assigned.
There is a big difference between humor and burnout. Under stress, we can all say some things that we regret, but this shows hatred towards those who are vulnerable. Scary.
FWIW I am a nurse who is more interested in the puzzle. I probably would have liked being a physician, but I'm not interested in an 80 hour work week, so I opted out of medicine.
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