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  • Nov 7 '11

    Congrats on working toward your BSN!

    I want NOTHING to do with birthing babies... except my own... BUT in my maternal/newborn class, I was present at 3 births (2 c-sections and 1 vaginal w/o pain management). I say "present" b/c as a Student-Nurse, there is little you can do but be an encourager.


    I have two children of my own, both by c/s. Seeing a birth from a professional side was an eye opening experience. If you are with a nurse, midwife, or physician that encourages you to ask questions, it can be a wonderful learning opportunity.

    We are in middle TN, and if you know much about natural childbirth, you have probably heard of "The Farm" near Summertown, TN. About 3 of my classmates are interested in becoming medwives, so they went over and toured The Farm. The stories they came back with were really unique, and it made me curious to learn more about their services.

    Consider your career goals. If midwifery is something you may be interested in, go for it! The best thing to remember with any clinical situation ASK QUESTIONS, OFFER TO HELP, and ASK QUESTIONS! I got to do some much cool stuff that other did not because I constantly kept my ears open and asked if I could have a crack at it. I was told "no" sometimes, but more often than not, I got some great hands-on experience that gave me wonderful material to discuss at hose first job interviews.

    Best of luck!

  • Nov 7 '11

    I think you would be more competitive if you have the minimum requirement when you apply (not your FB date). The program is competitive and many nurses with well over one year of experience will apply. My friend did not get accepted to the FNP program and she had over 12 years of nursing experience. She figured out later she probably did not have the strongest essay nor the best GPA 3.2. So just make sure you application is as strong as it can be before you apply! You should go to FNU's Facebook page and look at the discussion boards to see what others are saying about applying and getting accepted, it might give you a good picture of what students look like at Frontier.

    It will really also depend on how many people apply for the class you are applying for and what their applications look like. ((Also, the DNP requirement by 2015 is not set in stone, right now its a recommendation. They are talking about that too on the Frontier facebook page.))

    Again, I wish you good luck!

  • Nov 7 '11

    As an RN, you have the degree requirement to pursue a CNM. You would now need to apply to a university-based CNM program. Some require L&D experience as an RN and I would recommend this; the instincts you will develop will be very valuable in your CNM career.

    CNM's can practice as an employee in a private practice, as an independent provider in a hospital-based or home-birth practice.

    Specialty organizations would be ACNM, the American College of Nurse-Midwives, and MANA, which is more CPM and home-birth based midwives.

    There are practice challenges in every CNM job. In private practice it was finding time for teaching clients and in the whole in-call phenomenon. Working for a corporation it is in teaching residents and medical students that there is another, less interventive way of facilitating birth. Sometimes we can even teach practicing OB/GYNs ways to facilitate normal birth.

    Hope this is helpful. Please feel free to contact me via private e-mail for more...

  • Oct 9 '11

    The answer to this question is "probably not", but depends on several variables.

    The American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN) recommendation is required reading for anybody wondering about this issue. It is a recommendation, not a law. If laws are enacted as a result of this recommendation and follow its proposed deadline, then nurses will need to be "in practice" as NPs by 2015. Not "in school", "in residency", or "in progress" or "looking for a job". This is an ambitious deadline and may or may not happen. Though it looks like it will happen. The educational institutions just doubled their business in this segment, so you can count on them to be behind the changes. The NPS themselves are behind it because it will make their numbers more scarce and their salaries higher. Members of the public who need access to more affordable healthcare (particularly the underserved and underprivileged) and those who aspire to service in this arena but lack the means or time to become NPs (versus the many who are doing it for prestige and wealth) because of these changes will unfortunately be the likely losers here.

  • Oct 9 '11

    You must remember that you have the power to change this! The time to take action is now! Don't wait until the programs have been changed. You must group together with other nurses and students as well as regular citizens and express what YOU WANT! If you behave like insects, you will be treated like insects! YOU DO HAVE POWER!!!

    If you're not certain how to go about this, speak to an instructor of political science or government at your college. Possibly your state nursing board. Get petitions signed by citizens. It's crucial that we have as many practitioners as possible for the future. The NP with a MS degree is fully capable. The change is simply about fulfilling others ulterior motive. You're foolish to believe otherwise, no matter what poppycock someone tries to feed you.

  • Oct 9 '11

    MSN = Degree
    DNP = Degree
    PA = Degree
    MD = Degree

    Kind of makes one wonder what all the closed door meetings will bring about for us little working people who pay them their dues, fees, etc...

    Or in all things politics 2015 hits and things have to be pushed back.

    50 states each with its own governor, legislators, board of nursing, board of medicine and millions of registered voters.

    I wonder how far Georgia will be behind this time..........

  • Sep 21 '11

    I am surprised they didnt give you an visuals or samples. We have had to do concept maps all through nursing school. Our school at least gave us forms to follow.
    This last semester they added an addendum for us to do. Though hard at first, we finally got it down. I am sharing a concept map from my 3rd semester, and also a concept map with accompaning addendum from this past semester.

    hope this helps!

    p.s. I blacked out any possible identifying facts.

  • Aug 30 '11

    Hey thanks for replying! So when I go to the orientation are they going to explain everything because it is an all day thing? I still want to work in the fall and already have another degree from another university so I think I'm pretty good with time management and know now to study. I just don't want to have too much on my plate. I'm taking Nrn 101 and A&P 2 in the fall. Ccac already just feels so disorganized

  • Aug 14 '11

    I have three kids, a spouse, a garden, a farm, and a life. It's not that bad. It can be really stressful when fifteen things are all due the same week, but it's all about time management, and you might as well get good at it now because that's never going to stop being critical.

    It's not that bad.

  • Aug 14 '11

    You can do it!! I did a one-year program and survived by the skin of my teeth! The advice I have is:
    1) Make a study group, befriend people in your program - they'll be your biggest asset.
    2) If you have too much work around a test, break up the study guide into sections among your group and have people cite the page they found the info on, so if you don't understand it, you can read more about it.
    3) Don't kill yourself with textbook reading! Pay Very Very good attention in class, take great notes, and use the texts if you don't understand something fully. You can also tape the lectures and take notes later - that way you can just sit and listen (sometimes active listening helps you remember more than scribbling as much as you can get down does)
    4) One thing I wish I did looking back is to watch the Hurst lectures before each subjects class lecture. They are extremely simplified and may help with understanding. And hint - if you're computer savvy, they can be found online.

    You can do this, think positive thoughts! Good luck!!!

  • Aug 14 '11

    It all depends some do while other's don't. Some make you feel like they are better than you, while other's will help you if they have time or if you get behind. As a PCT working my way up I will be grounded because I will know first hand what it is to be a PCT/CNA. I think we all should work together as a team. Each member has a role their's no need to down PCT's, because we do work hard. It's all about the patient.

  • Aug 14 '11

    I like this post. I am an ER tech at a busy trauma center and I can literally run circles around the nurses I work with. I start IVs, draw blood, do EKGs, get urine samples and analyze them, check blood sugars, do vital signs, put on splints, and revitalize almost EVERY patient in the entire ER. EVen though we have 20 beds and usually 10-12 nurses, I generaly take on the brunt of the work independently because as the nurses suggest "Its my job". I love most of the people I work with but, it is still disheartening to see them sitting around looking at their Facebook page on their phone and reading a book while YOU ARE WORKING YOUR ASS OFF TO SAVE THEIR PATIENTS!!! I do not ALWAYS have days like this, there are some really amazing nurses but, sadly most of them are lazy and take WAY too much advantage of the help offered. I do like 60% more than I actually have to do... and it has come to be expected of me so, if I have an "off-day" where I am tired or not feeling mad, people get upset with me for not doing everything so efficiently. It would be nice for some of the nurses I work with to appreciate the staff that is helping them. Patient care techs are completly looked over and looked down on because of their status. I am an EMT-Intermediate and I have skills and experience in coding patients ON MY OWN in the back of an ambulance. I have delivered babies and saved gun shot wound victims and helped people out of cars that have flipped on the freeway. I have amazing talent and skill and I truly LOVE my job but, I would have to agree that I am very underappreciated and underpaid also. LOL.
    There have been several times that I go to report a critical value to the nurse and instead of just saying "Okay thanks" they go into some big lecture and try to explain the disease process to me... I KNOW JACKASS.. IM REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT TO YOU THAT YOUR DKA PATIENT HAS A SUGAR OF 1430 STILL!!!! Why do nurses think that you don't understand anything if you tell them a critical value??? We are not stupid. Most of us are worknig toward a degree in Nursing and, if nothing else... you are showing me the type of nurse I NEVER WANT TO BECOME. To those nurses out there that appreciate the ****-ons that are working their tail off to make your job easier.... thank you for being easy to work with.. to the others.. thank you also for showing me a good example of a bad nurse.

  • Aug 14 '11

    Nursing environments are just hard on anyone who's new regardless of license status. New techs and new nurses get flak from the veteran techs and the veteran nurses. At least that's how it is at my hospital.

  • Aug 14 '11

    You sound like me when a nurse says a patient is a difficult stick or anything and says I can not do it I am determined to prove them wrong. I feel appreciated by the majority of the nurses I work with. Sometimes I dont feel appreciated during the shift by some but at the end I get a big thank you from them and that makes me feel appreciated. I think some people just get overwhelmed and sometimes as an aide you get the brunt of it. It's not fair but for me it seems to come with the job.

  • Aug 14 '11

    I just read a post by a nurse showing her appreciation for the "unlicensed staff" and this definitely made my day.

    I can't tell you how many times at work I have been made to feel like an incompetent fool just for being a tech. While most of the nurses I work with do show they appreciate me and tell me how happy they are when they see me come on the unit, there are nurses who just look down on me like they are better then me or something. it's aggravating!!!!

    for example... I work in an ICU... I do temperature, blood sugars, EKG's, and phlebotomy. (I can do vital signs but it's ICU so they are all on the monitors)

    If I notice a pt's blood pressure is low and I alert the nurse.... DONT ROLL YOUR EYES AT ME AS IF I"M STUPID...because I just came on the unit and didnt know the patient is always hypotensive .... just tell me thats the norm for that patient....

    part of my job is to alert you if I notice abnormalities with the patient...I was just doing my job...

    And when it comes to drawing blood....all because I'm a tech does not mean I cannot do a blood draw on a patient who seems to be a hard stick......

    I can't tell you how many times a nurse was unable to get blood....and I would go and get it in one shot....
    I love hearing "she wont be able to get it" as I walk in the room, then walk out with 3 full tubes if blood......

    And dont even get me start on the new grad nurses on orientation...... OMG

    so do you feel appreciated by your nurses?