Lupan 5,211 Views
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I work with several pre-req nursing students and 2nd semester nursing students. I don't really have a problem with what they call themselves EXCEPT when the students attempt to act like nurses and answer or make comments on pt care. Sometimes they talk themselves into a corner and create a problem for themselves as well as the floor nurse. At one hospital where I worked the "nursing students" were given special cosideration and needless to say there were "nursing students" everywhere. I always made sure if asked to give the correct answer on my student status.
I was looking at some of the responses and I would like to make a statement. As a Native American/Anglo male nurse I find it amusing some of the things I hear. 1 DON refered to me as "the tan white guy". 1 pt introduced me to her gay nephew because "all male nurses are gay". In the southwest I run into events where I can't care for female pts because of I am male, husband/boyfriend is not happy with "guys" looking at "their woman". I speak spanish and grew up in El Paso with LOTS of time in Juarez Mexico. I deal with events where "Spanish only nurses" are preffered for pts. I go to restraunts where waitresses speak to me in spanish and my Latina girlfriend in english. The point?? WORK FROM THE HEART NOT YOUR EGO!! and laugh at everything else!!!
I have an EMS background so nursing was easy. The good points are stable pay and hours ( in LTC ), self worth, getting to meet some of the most interesting people in the world, the medical community, and lasting friendships.
The bad things are nurses eating their young, unrealistic expectations ( people die), dependent of community male nurse. Male nurses are not always accepted even now.
Nursing allows you to travel so you can go where there is work you like.
Yes I would do it again.
GO FOR IT..........
If you can dream it, you can do it. If you want it bad enough you can get it!! Don't let others decide for you. Being a male nurse is great and you will be suprised that a weak stomach goes away. AND there are different areas of nursing so you can find a place.
I have been in positions where pts thought that the CNAs and MAs were their nurses and I couldn't be their nurse because I was a man. I have also seen CNAs and MAs and CMAs ID themselves as nurses as well as nursing students call themselves nurses. If involved in a conversation with the pt I try to work it in to properly inform the pt. When I was a firefighter/emt I saw this on a regular basis also where people IDed themselves as EMTs. I came to this conclusion: Those people that do this for the most part will never go beyond this level. They are at the top of their abilities and have no hope of going higher.
I have been put in circumstances that were unpleasant because of people doing this. At a local hospital on a certain unit the CNAs and NAs regularly IDed themselves as nurses to do things " for the pt ". Doc gets upset and asks for the nurse. I get chewed out and pt states " not him the girl". Doc walks out and gives up because he can't figure out who the girl nurse is. HE knows the difference and is looking for a NURSE. Another reason that hospital has such a high turnover.
Beware though. One place had a CNA telling family that she was a " direct care nurse " and I was a " medication nurse ". She got into ALOT of LEGAL trouble including NEVER being able to have a CNA, CMA, or any direct pt care job. With this record she cannot even get a legal nursing title.
Ah here we go again!! That infamous Atkins study was about staffing/pt ratios not AD versus BSN. And don't we all take the same board exam?? On that note let's say ADs pass the same exam as BSNs and with less college hours. You could say with that data that ADs have higher abilities because they took 2 years instead of 4 years to pass the same board exam. Hummmm...... I took all the "nursing" classes when working on my BSN and found no monetary reward for taking on more debt. 25 cents an hour more to pay off about 10,000 more in debt. As one friend said " I will be able to retire the same year I pay off my student loans for my masters!" Instead of BSN requirements let us ALL look at CE requirements!
I once worked with an RN that had over 20 years at bedside. She gave me a piece of advise when I first entered nursing. "Nurses are their own worst enemy". Everyone wants to protect their pie but can't see that such behavior is self-limiting and destructive. I worked at a facility where management encouraged back biting amoung the nurses because they hired new nurses (cheaper) that didn't know any better. Turnover is high but they stay in budget!! As long as nurses do this to each other, we can expect no better.
Years ago while attending an EMS training class for BIO hazards and NBC warefare we learned of a magical solution to wash our uniforms in. Anti Bacterial DISHSOAP with CITRUS OIL. I have used it on everything from brain tissue to ETOH vomit. Yes it is found in your local grocery store and is priced right. After a Haz Mat incident the EPA tested our equipment and was HAPPY with the results. Soak cycle, wash, extra rinse all in cold water. Citrus oil changes the pH and helps "float" stuff in the water/soap for removal. I buy the dishwashing soaps with lemon or orange scents and read the label. Some have citrus oil and others just a scent. I have co-workers that ask if I use a "cleaner" for all my laundry. Nope this single guy does it all; iron, starch, wash, its all good. My scrubs are CLEAN and FRESH. The amount is based upon what my current residents are "carrying" more for MRSA and etc and less for everyday "stuff". 1/4 cup is good. There is a higher oil soap used for cars and interiors but it costs 2-3x as much.
One time at halloween I took a rubber zombie and put it in a bed. Everyone got a kick out of it because I told no one except there was a new resident in room #310. At one hospital we tied a sleeping nurse to the bed with a sheet and then paged her. Got a doc to page her to report to the nurses station stat!! she never slept on the job again! One played on me was "fresh milk" from L&D used as creamer for coffee.
If some nurse gets hired because of looks so be it. My experience is that they live to regret such hiring policies. In rural areas it don't take long for the word to get out and the backlash can be very expensive. I worked with one supervisor that gave easy case loads to eye candy (male/female) because she felt that they were hired for looks not ability. I say "that's life"
LTC has challenges that I didn't find at the hospital and vice-versa. I really feel that the issue is more on a level of I am better than you plus the rep of nursing homes hasn't been the best in the past. In this area LTC offers better pay and job security and some resent that. We all have a place.
I can see the whole event!! It is better than the time of monster movies on halloween and working that night. Needed the laugh...............
Sorry to upset the apple cart folks. Some of the female professors hit on us male students or flirted extensively with us.
Sorry tejas but they were mostly the female professors.
I came from EMS and moved over to nursing after 22 years and I agree with many comments made. It is amazing that in EMS/Fire Depart. admin types are still required to spend time in the field but in nursing once out of the trenches memories fade! As a floor nurse I have seen forms and paperwork moved over to nursing because of 8-5 positions need for time to deal with their family issues and it STAYS in the floor nurses job because it improved data gathering. How about the cost of triple charting the same data/pt info in different areas so that 8-5 staff can stay in their 40 hr work week and floor nurses take the heat for less time with the pt?? The LTC facility where I work I spent about 3 hours of paper work for 1 hour of resident care dependent on skill level.
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