petethecanuck, BSN, RN 4,687 Views
Joined Aug 28, '09.
Posts: 166 (40% Liked)
TO the OP. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out and good riddance. The less cynical bitter people in our profession the better.
I'll take a locally trained nurse 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
Here in Alberta our new grads should have priority for hiring over anyone else who wants to enter the profession in our province. Be it a BC grad or a nurse from abroad.
You could be a 10th generation Canadian citizen and train overseas and still be classified as an IEN. Growing up in Canada or citizenship has nothing to do with it. It's where you were trained and if you were trained outside of Canada, sorry but you're at the back of the line.
If you click on your "account" link, there is a blog tab. You could try that. Not sure a general forum thread is the best place for a personal journal.
Pro-tip: Get used to the idea of having far worse things then long hair stuck to your pants after a day of work.
Hi lathyrus. I'm an MN student at the U of C and will be teaching clinical practicums starting this Fall. I'll try to answer some of your queries.
For anyone who took it, what was it like? I started in the old 20 month BNAT program and not the new 24 month one. Not going to sugar coat it, it's a grind. Especially the Spring and Summer semesters. That said, students who are in the accelerated track are highly motivated very dedicated and generally do well.
Did the program prepare you into the nursing world? You won't have as many clinical hours as students who attend MRU or the direct entry stream at the U of C. To offset that deficit, some students (in the accelerated track) will try to undergrad after their first year (3rd yr equivalent). Given the fast pace of the program, under grading is rough, but if you can handle it, highly recommended. Looking back, I wish I had.
Did you get hired right away like the nursing counselors told us? Tricky question to answer. Best option to secure employment once you are eligible as a grad nurse is to 1) undergrad 2) get to know the manager on your final focus unit (assuming it's a unit you like). These days, applying via the AHS website is a pita and a lot of managers hire from their undergrad pool or students who have completed their final focus on the unit (as they are already half way trained).
Was the license exam hard? The CRNE no longer exists as of Oct 2014 and you will be writing the NCLEX but yes it will be challenging.
Were the STAT class and Human Anat and Phy class hard? That depends on your undergrad degree. If your degree is in the arts or music then yes, stats and anatomy & phys will be hard.
How much is the tuition right now? Fee chart for the 2013-2014 year http://www.ucalgary.ca/pubs/calendar...FEES_CHART.pdf
Do the employers care more if you have a three or four-year degree plus the accelerated degree? Or do they not care at all? In my experience working with students from both schools, I would say MRU students have better clinical skills out of the gate and each person handles the first year "transition shock" differently, but over the course of time (by the 2nd year) things even out.
Does having an accelerated degree put you in disadvantage? Aside from the deficit in clinical hours, not really. We thrive as a profession by have people with vastly different life experiences, cultures and the like.
Why would there be a need for studying for a really important exam when Roshana is "amazed by ... own intelligence"??
Where do I begin...
First: To people who are lamenting their profession of CHOICE: "if I only knew then, what I know now. I would have pick something else...".. well no one is stopping you. Go pursue your dreams! I came to nursing in my late 30's.. it's never too late to make a career change.
Second: I'm not anti LPN [although I don't particularly enjoy working with them as it adds to my workload) but I honestly believe that if someone has the intellect and potential to gain entry into and complete a BN (BSN) program they should take that degree and run with it.
(Right now) It may look appealing to do the 16 month LPN diploma but long term, you're selling yourself short. That degree will open so many more doors for you later in life. It may not be in nursing but you will be much more competitive in the job market 10-15 years from now with a univeristy degree then a college diploma.
Third: This is 2013. There is no such thing as job security anymore. In any profession.
Have a nice day
edit added: Good on ya flyingchange. Hope you get accepted. I'm going all the way to doctorate (in nursing)
If I miss 2 days of work without any reason or letting my manager know (in this case your instructors) I'd probably get in trouble too.
I think she mistook our avatar's.
We're all entitled to our own professional opinions Fiona and sorry you find my views about an LPN diploma option for the OP offensive. IMHO it would be a big step backward for him.
It's all fine and dandy to pursue nursing if that is your passion and dream. However, you have to ask yourself.. what do you really want to do?
Watching a YouTube vid is great and I'm happy it peaked your interest but I would seriously recommend you look into volunteering in a health care setting first to see if you REALLY want to pursue a career in nursing.
I would also recommend you speak with some nursing faculty at your Uni and perhaps they can put you in touch with some practice instructors and you could shadow them on a clinical day.
Whatever you do, just don't make a huge decision like this based something you watched on the internet. Do some research, talk to lots of people who work in different settings. Use your Uni's Faculty of Nursing as a resource and finally, go for the Bachelor of Nursing. Getting a practical nurse diploma is a waste of your time.
And what happens if there is a change in your patient that you missed because you didn't do a full head to toe on your next shift?
Is it a hassle to have your patient roll over so you can take a quick look at their bottom checking for pressure sores? Sure.
However, it's more of a hassle having to do a dressing change on said bottom because you were lazy and missed a pressure sore forming.
I'm sorry but there isn't a substitute for an RN. I have more training then an LPN. I have greater responsibility and care for more complex and acute patients then an LPN. Sorry, but that is a fact.
Now, that being said. LPN's are most definitely nurses and their utilization (not being able to admin meds) in NB is wrong.
LPN's are an important part of the health care team and advertisements promoting divisions amongst nurses (as CARNA and the UNA have done in the past) is counter productive and hurtful to our profession as nurses. In my perfect world, LPN's would be members of said organizations but the powers at be will never allow that to happen.
Are you working in a designated community for loan forgiveness?
Can check here: Doctors and Nurses Student Loan Forgiveness - CanLearn.ca
There are a few questions you should give serious thought and time to.
-Why do you want to pursue nursing?
-How do you feel about a PBL approach for your nursing education? If you don't know what that is you need to contact the U of A Faculty of Nursing.
-Why do you want to pursue a Master of Nursing? What are your career goals? (aside: I'm currently doing my Master of Nursing at the U of C and can answer any questions you may have)
-How do you feel about working 12 hour shifts day/night? Have you ever worked 12 hour night shifts before?
-Do you think you could handle seeing and working around body fluids? Vomit, mucus, urine, feces, blood, semen etc. Yes if you are an RN you WILL be changing attends and performing pericare.
-How do you handle verbal abuse, stress, confrontation?
-How are you at interacting with persons who are cognitively impaired or persons with mental health issues?
If you truly want to pursue a career in nursing that isn't motivated by making money or having job security then you're never too old to pursue your dreams.
Really? This thread has turned into an RN bash? Oh the stories I can tell you from some of the LPN's I work with......
Now I know why I never check the CDN forums anymore /eyeroll
Do you think this is possible?
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