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  • Jun 16

    Quote from Trilldayz,RN BSN
    I feel like I fell for the "FNPs can do anything" myth. It is NOT TRUE in my neck of the woods.

    Maybe I'm just impatient, or asking for alot, i don't know.
    Its true most places and I don't think you are being inpatient or asking a lot. Unfortunately, you are in the same boat as many other NPs who drank the university KoolAid served up to undergrads who believe the Land of Milk and Honey NP fairy tale. You aren't the first and sadly I suspect your experience will increase exponentially in the near future.

    At this point the best I could offer is to really work your professional contacts for an inside tract to a NP job. Good luck.

  • Feb 18 '16

    Quote from ghillbert
    Negotiate HARD when you take your first job - often that is your opportunity to start higher on the ladder and raises from there are often a % of your base salary - so start as high as you can! Once you take the job, you have little bargaining power.
    I would encourage all new grad NPs to make it a short term goal to change jobs anyway after their first year. Much more realistic than to plan to stay in the same job forever and hope that incremental annual pay increases will bring one up to where one should be. It has gotten a lot harder for many new grads to negotiate higher pay for their first job because the markets are so saturated with other new grads in some areas and the employers know this. One should always ask for more, but if they say no and what they're offering seems reasonable (and is significantly more than what one makes in one's current RN job) then it would make sense to take it and start building NP experience rather than to let the opportunity slip away---especially if one is in a location where jobs are very hard to get. A year goes by quickly, and after a year of experience one will be in a much better position to negotiate for more money.

    If the current employer really wants you to stay after that then they need to step up with the money or you, as the ambitious NP that you are, should be ready to step out and move on to better options. The key is to be willing to make the move. You will find that once you have NP experience that your situation is very different from that of the new grads who are having trouble with finding their first job.

  • Feb 10 '16

    It sounds like a pretty good deal, congrats.

    I would check on a few things if you could:

    1. Who handles referrals and PAs?
    2. How much do other providers have to chart at home?

  • Feb 10 '16

    Not a bad offer. Texas has a lower COLI than the northeast (where I am from) so that helps a lot. Remember this is a starting point, not an ending one!

  • Feb 3 '16
  • Feb 3 '16

    If you've signed I would think it's a done deal. I would look for little cracks/openings over the next year as you establish yourself as a great provider in that practice. Little opportunities may present themselves in the form of colleagues that would be up for some sort of 5/4 swap where one week they work the full five days and you work four days and then you switch the next week OR gently putting out feelers that you would love a 10 hr work day so you would have one day off per week.

    TRUST are going to be hating life when you have kids and you are in the office 9-5 five days per week. Or at least I would. I'm sure some do it and they love it but it would not be my ideal. If you have no kids right now then use this time to rock that first job, be flexible and put in your time. Then when you do start having children you will have a workplace that values you and your contribution and may be willing to re-negotiate to 3-4 days per week (with appropriate salary reductions of course.)

  • Feb 1 '16

    Wow the pros sound pretty good to me. I guess the question would be if the no pedi patients and drive are a deal breaker for you. If not and you think you would enjoy this place and it would be a good learning environment then I think its a solid offer. Congrats on the offer!

  • Feb 1 '16

    Sounds good! It sounds like it's not your ideal population though?

  • Jan 7 '16
  • Jan 7 '16

    For the same reasons that some MD residency programs selectively market to foreign medical grads, who then can be used for whatever from overcharging Medicaid to tampering with prescriptions to involving females to activities usually called "having some fun while on call in hospital". They think they are dealing with people who are either desperate, stupid or afraid, or all that put together.
    I know it is more difficult to say than to do, but if every single NP, or an RN or every one else, for that matter, will just report to authorities every single suspicious activity, the things will start to move in the right direction sooner or a bit later. We will not hesitate to report a child covered with bruises in ER, even if eventually it will came out that the child is very well cared for but in serious figure skating training and so bruises caused by falling on ice. Why, then, should a person not employed in a "pain clinic" opened a month ago in the nearby strip mall hesitate to call authorities and ask to investigate?

  • Dec 13 '15

    Quote from Trilldayz,RN BSN
    Thank you for your empathy! (((hugs)))
    Hey, ya know what... the fact that you saw something that disturbed you (and it wasn't even anything that directly effected you,) and you took action on it... just shows you have a lot of heart! Honestly, it really doesn't matter how other ppl interpret or respond to the ad. I do think it's great you wrote to get feedback on the scenario and your actions... another person might not have been that open and/or might have felt so righteous in their actions not to do so. So, it seems to me, REGARDLESS of if it really was or was not an seem like you have a big heart, you stand up for what you believe in, and you are open & willing enough to seek out others' opinions & feedback when you are giving it a second thought. Sounds to me like you have a great set of values & moral principles... and we NEED more people with those qualities around today... sadly, even in some of our fellow nurses! So Bravo! ‚Äč

  • Dec 13 '15

    no you are not over reacting. the majority of the public have no idea what a nurse does. and doctors being demeaning to nurses in front of patients does not help.

  • Dec 9 '15

    Quote from flyersfan88
    You missed the part where they made multiple posts targeting multiple majors. Stop overreacting.
    Yes, I didn't read all of the responses, particularly the ones stating that they put the same ad in multiple searches substituting the name of the profession at the time I posted that. That DID cross my mind that that was a possibility... but I responded to her post based on what she told us.
    But... now that I have read more responses... I am even more amazed at the amount of (non-constructive) criticism and judgement offered, and the total lack of a basic empathy for fellow nurses, aka human-beings on here! I THOUGHT we were here to support and help eachother, REGARDLESS of if we are thinking someone is "overreacting" or whatever the case is... and even if someone DOES think that, shouldn't we offer that opinion in a more compassionate way and maybe offer some constructive feedback? But maybe I am wrong on that, idk...
    Anyways, the original post stated she wanted feedback from members including if we thought SHE overreacted... and my original post was to do exactly that by trying to see it from multiple viewpoints (as you can tell from that post, I start off stating my original reaction as if I had just read the ad like she did, but as I continued to write, my viewpoint swayed as I thought of different things... in the end, concluding that in my opinion, it really wasn't worth it for her to worry over one way or another.) However... I did NOT ask for anyone's opinion (or YOUR'S) regarding if I was overreacting.

  • Dec 9 '15

    What more do you expect? The ad was probably written by someone who works for a temp agency. Temp agencies are notoriously stupid.

  • Dec 9 '15

    Wow! I am surprised at all of these responses!!! I think that if I was the one that stumbled upon this I would have been upset myself! Like you said, it doesn't say, "a perfect job for college students to make some quick cash," or anything in those regards. Just... nursing students! And then continues to target nursing students throughout the ad, and then mentions at the bottom, "Bussers- with possibility of growth and enhancement." Because we go to nursing school to become a Busser and the possibility to work our way up from that? I don't necessarily think this ad was trying to insult nurses, in fact, obviously if they targeted nursing students particularly, they know MOST of us who go to nursing school are very caring, respectful, have dedication, strong work ethics, can deal with a fast paced work environment where we often have to deal with receiving a lack of appreciation from those we care for (and even work for, unfortunately,) and we ARE in a "service" field where the "customer is always right," even though they usually aren't. Knowing that, and as someone else had mentioned, maybe their best Bussers were nursing students, maybe that's why they targeted them? Obviously I don't know. But I DO agree that the ad was NOT well-written. If they said "perfect for students to make extra cash" or anyone with Bussing experience that also possess the specific attributes they are looking for...that would be a great ad! The attributes listed in the ad in regards to nursing students were great ones... but why just nursing students? That's a miss for them! But I definitely understand how it could make you feel uncomfortable and make you question the company in general. As far as to write a complaint to them, and one as strong worded as you did... I'd say a tad bit of an over reaction. But on the other hand, maybe they will amend their future ads if they didn't realize this could be taken offensively. I wouldn't worry much about it either way! It's their issue, not yours!