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    Quote from Alice88
    Raicho, that's great it worked so well for you. As I said, it seems like a good program, but I can't afford to be out of work for 3 years. I'm married with two kids and we can't afford to lose a paycheck for that long.

    As for grad school, my whole reason for going into nursing is to become an NP, and the NP programs in the area all require the NLN or CCNE accreditation for your BSN, and the online ones I've looked into are the same. If you know of any NP programs that will accept Platt's degree without the NLN I'd love to know which ones they are.
    University of Phoenix
    Grand Canyon
    Medical University of South Carolina

    Those programs have formal letters of agreement to accept Platt grads, MUSC offers a 95% online NP, you travel there one week per semester.

    If your 'whole reason for going into nursing is to become an NP' you might consider becoming a physician or PA instead; it would save you from a possibly unpleasant few years while you gather experience in a profession you don't want while waiting to enter the one you do.

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    Quote from vsoto
    Thanks for the input. I have been on the navy's website and this is what I found today.

    http://www.navyreserve.com/careers/health-care/nurses/

    "Education-Each applicant must be a graduate of a U.S. education program granting a Bachelor of Science degree in Nursing (BSN) and accredited by the appropriate state board of nursing or the National League for Nursing."

    I also searched for the schools that were approved by the Colorado State Board of Nursing and SON Platte College is on the list of approved programs and pending NLNAC accredidation.

    If I am interpreting this correctly, than SON Platt would qualify?

    Yes, a Platt degree is acceptable to the military, some of my classmates looked into taking a commission when they graduated.

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    Quote from Coloradogrl
    I was wondering if someone who was in Platt or have talked to financial aid could answer me. I was wondering after you get all your federal loans/grants and the reminding balance are you able to make payments from to the school while you are in or do you have to get a private loan?
    Go meet with the financial aid people. Short answer is "yes, you can make payments" but the terms are pretty specific.

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    Quote from Malfijo
    Hi somedaynp and leahjack!
    I guess we will all be seeing each other soon! I think scrubs are fine to wear to class, and there waay comfortable! Yeah I wish there was a book exchange or somewhere we could buy books from other students, because they are so expensive.I am just finishing up some loose ends like my physical, and got my BLS last week. I am concerned however, that I cant find record of my Hep B vacc. so I have to get it again, and it takes like 3 months. Will I still be able to start in January? Well if anyone wants to get a hold of me you can email me malfijo@yahoo.com. Good to know that there are other class 16's on here!


    ~Mallory
    It's much easier to buy from earlier classes than you would think, you'll run into them regularly. Regarding networking, your class size is small enough that emails are the easiest way to communicate.

    Good luck in your nursing career, and enjoy your time at Platt.

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    MissLeslieLynn likes this.

    Askingnurse, you seem to have received a great deal of bad information and you're obviously trying to find answers. Good for you.

    I am, however, a fulltime nursing student and have spent more time than I care to on this message board. Please feel free to contact Platt at (303) 369-5151 or via their webpage http://plattcolorado.edu/nursing/nursing.html to get the answers you're after. The administrators of the program are far better informed than anyone you'll find out here (including me), and can help you decide if Platt is the right choice for you.

    Best of luck to you in your pursuit of nursing.

    Mister SN

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    Dear askingnurse:

    Are you interested in obtaining a BSN or an ADN? Either will permit you to take the national licensing exam and enter the nursing profession, but one is a baccalaurate degree preparing you for graduate study if you wish, the other is a technical degree that would require further education in order to enter graduate school. There is a difference in cost and length of program associated with this choice, which I'll discuss briefly in a moment.

    Platt is working toward NLNAC accreditation for their nursing program. One of the requirements for accreditation is having a PhD prepared nurse directing the program. Dr G is an eminently qualified nurse, author and researcher and Platt is lucky to have her in charge. When you take your pathophysiology or pharmacology classes you may be using books she has written on those subjects.

    In the early days of the program there was discussion about offering LPN and/or ADN "exit options" meaning that if a student decided not to continue to the BSN they might opt to finish one of those options. The decision was made to focus on the BSN rather than to divide the focus of the program.

    The length of the program is 35 months. This has increased as a result of a change in academic calendar, which permits a longer academic quarter and a week between quarters. Platt students attend classes year-round which permits the awarding of a Bachelor's degree in just under three years; the addition of a week between quarters was a very welcome change for me.

    Platt exceeds the required clinical hours by nearly 1/2, in order to provide a more in-depth experience in each area. Platt clinicals and capstone experiences take place at (among others) Lutheran, Denver Health, Porter, Swedish, Aurora South, Triumph, Sky Ridge, Presbyterian St Luke's, St Joseph's.

    In comparing cost, you'll have to decide what factors are most important to you. My decision to attend Platt hinged on completing a BSN in the shortest possible time. If your goal is an Associates degree or LPN training, Platt is obviously not for you.

    All of Platt's classroom nursing faculty have a Master's degree in progress, a Master's degree, an MD, a PhD in progress, or a PhD. Clinical Scholars (who often work for more than one institution at a time) have a Master's degree in progress or a Master's degree.

    Platt students leave the program at a rate similar to other local nursing programs, most of them for personal reasons. Some decide that nursing is not for them, some don't do well in an accellerated program, some have changes in their family circumstances. A few have been kicked out of the program for academic dishonesty or misconduct. In my class, most of the attrition took place during our freshman and sophomore years, in basic and advanced principles, and medical-surgical nursing.

    Hope this answers some of your questions.

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    Imafloat likes this.

    Wow, if I could somehow thank you twice I certainly would! Great post, and I look forward to reading more of your insight.

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    Quote from Coloradogrl
    Anyone willing to share about what the monthly payments were? I know Platt is expensive and everyone one is different but I was wondering if it was close to what DSN is.....$1800 or so
    I'm afraid that I cannot be of help, as I've gone through the program on loans or scholarships. I suspect that you could get an answer from someone in the office.

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    Quote from brentonmatt
    Has anyone thought about working as a Industrial Health Nurse? I live in Houston, and there are many Refinerys here. Benefits are great at the plants. I would also be insterested in hearing from any RNP's working independently in the Refining Industry.
    I know a bit about the subject, although that's not where I'm heading. My wife works as an Industrial Hygenist, which overlaps a bit with OHN. I also have a close relative who works as an Occupational Health physician for a major auto manufacturer (who is preparing to close the doors of his factory).

    Many large employers either employ nurses directly or contract with Occupational Health companies. Often they may employ physicians or advanced providers to staff onsite clinics, or they may concentrate on health, safety and welfare programs for employees and their families.

    A few of the companies that hire OHNs use them to review and make recommendations on job-related injuries, accidents and compensation issues, often giving the qualified nurse a means of identifying and hopefully correcting unsafe workplace practices.

    A typical day might involve teaching a CPR class to employees, then responding to an accident in the facility and treating the injured until EMS arrives, then spending an afternoon immersed in paperwork from OSHA.

    Here are a couple of links to get you started...
    ABOHN - The certifying agency for OHNs
    AAOHN - One of the large professional organizations

    Best of luck to you!

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    Quote from Silver_Girl
    I don't think so. I've had the opposite experience of some other people on here...I'm a brand new grad in my first year in the ICU, and I love it. I couldn't imagine working on another floor. Yes, it is incredibly stressful and scary at times and overwhelming, but I'm learning SO much and the experience is wonderful. I think that it's the quality of support on your nursing unit, rather than solely the type of unit, that impacts the experience. I work at a teaching hospital, so the senior nurses in our ICU are encouraged to precept and are incredibly supportive and always there to help or answer any questions...no hazing involved whatsoever. Our hospital also has a great orientation program with 2 weeks of classes and 12 weeks of having a preceptor, which also made a huge difference in the transition. There are always new batches of med students/interns around too every few months, so the doctors are also used to teaching and most are willing to answer questions. So...yes, it's the ICU, and I'm still constantly afraid of messing up and I feel really new and the patients are really sick, BUT because I have all these supports and resources in place on my unit, I feel okay with it, even without the medsurg experience. In a real emergency when lightning-speed-skills that I don't have yet are required, I do what I can but there are a million people at the bedside anyway, so the expert people step in...and each time as I gain more experience I just participate more and more.

    Also, here are a couple inherent qualities of an ICU (vs. a medsurg unit) that I find extremely reassuring as a new grad:
    1) excellent nurse: patient ratio!! Yes, they're very busy and sick, but here we only have 1-3 patients. Personally I much prefer to have a couple patients that I know really really well and do everything for, rather than 8 patients that I know sort of well. I'd feel really scattered with that many patients.
    2) continuous monitoring! The second any vs starts to go sour the alarms go off. I was sort of scared by horror stories of nurses finding the patient at the end of the hall dead for who-knows-how-long at the end of their shift in nursing homes & such. And it kind of scares me that you can't see everyone at once on a regular unit, so something acute can happen to any patient at any time without you immediately knowing it. So I find the monitoring very reassuring.

    Just weighing in. So in my opinion, if you find a GOOD ICU, go for it Much ICU love!
    Thank you for your input Silver_Girl, I hope to emulate your experience in a few months. I (and perhaps other readers) would be interested in hearing more about what drove you to ICU, and what you wish you had known before walking through that door for the first few times.

    Best of wishes for all the new and nearly grads here!

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    MyBSN likes this.

    My apologies, I misspoke in my last post!

    Platt is working on an agreement with UCSF (and others), and currently has articulation agreements with University of Phoenix and Grand Canyon (both regionally accredited universities offering in-residence and online MSN degrees.)

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    MyBSN likes this.

    A few points:

    Wildchipmunk raises good issues, but I'd like to make a small correction to this item:

    Another thing to consider is that the credits at Platt are non-transferable. This is because they created their program with a different time line than other schools, NOT necessarily because it's less of an education. This would make an unforeseen forced move to another state a disaster.


    This is not quite correct, and is a little misleading. A more correct way to say it is this: Platt credits are transferable at the discretion of the accepting school. This is true for my credits from Red Rocks as well. Once you leave the state of Colorado, schools decide to grant credit based on a review of the course description and (or so it seems to me) a quick check of what phase the moon is in. One current Platt student had their credits evaluated at a state school in PA when they applied for admission and received credit for them. They have since chosen to finish at Platt before they make the move, but not because their credits were not accepted.

    Also, Platt currently has transfer agreements with several MSN programs, including the University of California at San Francisco--arguably the finest school of nursing in the country. The goal, as explained to me, is to make sure that every nursing specialty is available to us as graduates. This is, in fact, a requirement of the Colorado Board of Nursing--Platt students must be able to further their education.

    Graduates of a state-approved nursing program in Colorado are eligible to sit for the NCLEX-RN and be granted a license to practice nursing in the state, which is a member of the Nursing Compact, a group of more than 20 states that recognize nursing licenses from member states.

    California is not a member of the Nursing Compact, meaning that you must apply for a license in the state, but are not required to sit for the NCLEX again. As Wildchipmunk said, the best information on California will come from the state board of nursing. Information on the Nursing Compact can be found at: https://www.ncsbn.org/158.htm

    In answer to your question about 35 months or 4 years--you attend school for 35 months, which is divided into 4 academic periods (freshman, sophomore, junior, senior) that we call academic years. Each academic year lasts about 36 weeks.

    Hope this helps.

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    Coloradogrl and MyBSN like this.

    ColoradoGrl: First of all, this is a question best answered by someone in financial aid. I can tell you a bit about my situation but it will probably not be the same as yours.

    You pay as you go. The program lasts about 36 months, divided into four academic years. At the beginning of each academic year you sit down with the financial aid person (after you've filled out your FAFSA) who tells you what aid you're getting and what amount you need in loans/grants. I can't really speak to what your financial aid package would cover.

    MyBSN: The first class graduated earlier this year, the second class will graduate in December. I'm not aware of any of the first class heading into grad school yet, and as far as I know most programs require a minimum of one years practice before they will consider your application.

    My clinicals have been very good and have taken place at DH, Triumph, Spaulding, St. Joes, El Paso County Health Dept and Arapahoe House. I think you begin clinicals during your first or second quarter; that seems like a long time ago and I can't remember at this second. I'll have to ask a classmate and get back to you.

    I'm not entirely objective, being in the program, but I've been told by more than one of my clinical preceptors that Platt students measure up well. I feel that I've received an excellent education and that my knowledge and skills measure up to those of students from other schools.

    As you might imagine, accreditation is on my mind as well, and the more I learn about it the more I realize that it's a complicated subject. There are a whole lot of organizations that are in the business of accrediting schools and the organization that Platt chose twenty-five years ago has been a good fit for them up to now. Nursing programs have their own accreditation and I understand that Platt is working on NLNAC (and can't say a lot more than that about the process).

    I didn't find the TEAS test all that hard, but I've heard that some people have trouble with it.

    I know that the school accepts 15 students into each class and four classes per year, which means that ~60 people are accepted each year. I don't have any idea of the numbers that apply or are turned away.

    Hope this answered your questions, I'm off to bed.

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    Quote from MyBSN
    If you are still available I would love to ask you a few things about PLATT! I know your last post was quite some time ago!

    Thanks!

    Yep, still here!

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    Phoenixlight likes this.

    Hello again Lucy!

    I wanted to post a quick update, because I found a school that does have a formal EMT-P to BSN program. It is not, however, in the Denver area, it's in Pueblo (about 100 miles to the south of Denver). The school is Colorado State University-Pueblo (formerly the University of Southern Colorado). Here's the link.

    Best of luck!


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