ShiphrahPuah 4,146 Views
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Lets just all remember that it is illegal to call your-self a "nurse", if you have not issued a nursing license.
I read your last three posts; it looks like you did get the gist of what I was saying--that is while it is both unlawful and incorrect for anyone to refer to themselves with a title they have not earned (such as a medical assistant calling her/himself a "NURSE" when they aren't), it can be difficult (it's like fighting an uphill battle) to change the way doctors randomly use the title "NURSE".The problem is that they'll say "It's minor--you and the patients know what I mean!!" But they don't understand that it's not minor, if MAs are addressed incorrectly by the docs, it'll only cause confusion when the patient comes or calls in to the office requesting assistance "from the nurse working with Dr. Doe". You are correct to say that docs would be upset if NPs or PAs were referred to as "Dr"- I've personally witnessed this! A PA in my practice is always called "Dr. C------", it burns the physicians up to the point that a staff meeting was held on the proper usage of titles; the docs were really upset when they realized that the staff was addressing "Dr. C-----" correctly, as he held a PhD, and thereby did indeed earn the title of "Dr." (How they missed that, I'll never understand--for the fact that he has a PhD seems to be printed on everything posted in the office touting the fact that there's a PA on staff.)
Hopefully, you'll never have that experience, but I know that it can and does happen-based on personal work experience (18+ years work experience); people react differently to corrections-no matter how kind-so sometimes you have to keep your thoughts in check~just know that it doesn't help you in trying to educate the patients on proper titles/terminolgy when the physicians refer to the medical assistant staff as "nurses" (that same patient may say to themselves that the word "nurse" must be correct, if the doctor is using it).
This is why I said what I did.
I dont have to explain myself, or my views, I chose to. I was in no way insulting anyone, I tried to explain why I feel the way I do & I was trying to have a grown up debate. Apparently you guys had it rough in school, I havent had that problem, and I dont anticipate having it in the near future. I can and will continue to think the way I do. I dont have a big ego, Im confidant in my abilities, there's a biiiggg difference.
So what would you do when A PATIENT who doesn't know (or care) about the differences in tile refers to you constantly as a "NURSE"? Do you risk offending the patient (to the point of that person not wanting to return to the practice, thereby losing income for the entire office staff) by correcting them...or gracefully smile, knowing that when referring to yourself or other staff members, you will use correct titles?
If you are unable to care for your patients, you may need to find another specialty.
I take care of people who make moral decisions that I do not agree with. I take of drunk drivers, rapists, murders, *******s, people who think prayer is an appropriate way to treat their easily curable child, etc.
You don't get to choose your patients, but you did agree to take care of those who come your way. I don't reject patients because they are of religions I don't agree with, the color of their skin, their mental issues, the fact that they have HIV/AIDS, the fact that they're in my ER because they were stabbed while they were trying to rape someone, etc.
We shouldn't allow ourselves to discriminate against our patients.
Whether you like it or not, abortion is legal. You have an obligation to care for those assigned to you.
Like it or not (for me) if the family wants their 102 year old mama to be a full code despite the fact that keeping her alive is cruel and I vehemently disagree morally with keeping people alive who should be allowed a dignified, peaceful death, I push the Epi and charge the paddles.
This is just my two cents, but your (or anyone's) belief in a mythological figure is not reason to refuse care to a patient in need. (Y'all can flame me for that if you feel the need to; I'm fire-proof.)
Thank you "Villanova, RN BSN" for putting down your fellow nurses, who by the way sat for the same test you took to become a registered nurse!!!
I live in Chicago and have visited almost every part of Florida, I am actually going to be visiting Ft.Lauderdale at the end on January. I ask anyone here that has ever lived in Florida and they have nothing but terrible things to say. They tell me the schools and education systems are bad and that the majority of the population have low Iq's and are poor. I don't know why this is, everyone seemed pretty normal to me?? I would like to move there one day and start a new life with my husband but I'm worried about salary and job placement for both himself and I. Why are some peoples experiences so bad, its so beautiful and the people are very nice. I just don't get it. Can someone help me understand why this is??
I am going to point out a bit of the flip side.....
My brother (ASN-RN) with ~5 yrs exp earned over $100K last year. WOW! Right? He actually looked at moving here to FL and was so appalled at the low wages that he wouldn't even consider it.
$100K - fed tax (income, SSN, MC) - NYS income tax - NYC income tax..... Wonder what his net was? (NMB so I didn't ask...)
He paid $3K/mo for a 2 br SMALL apartment. He left his car with my nephew on LI because it was $700+/mo to park a car. Last time I checked (in 1984) sales tax in NYC was 8.25%. He was a smoker. His cigarettes cost $10 a PACK when I was paying $25/carton! Everything costs so much more.
When you boil it down, it isn't how much you earn but what your DISPOSABLE income is. It is also....free time and what you can do with it....What you VALUE! I *hate* driving in ice and snow, scraping windows, being cold, shoveling snow.... I *hate* spending an hour or more a day in bumper to bumper traffic! (Sometimes I have to slow down.....but 295 does NOT become a parking lot every day like the highways in NYC/LI, DFW, LA, SF!)
I think everybody should show everybody more respect. We're all on the same planet. Some of us got here before others - by no fault of our own. Some of us went to nursing school and got a job before others. If you know something, by experience or research or through school, teach somebody else. If you don't know something, ask somebody who does and then teach somebody who doesn't. It's really not all that complicated.
Knowledge - old or new - should be shared, not used as an ego boosting bludgeon.
Let me first start by saying I start an RN program through a hospital based school come March 1st. 22 months, no significant breaks, and lots of clinical...
I have a degree in Environmental and Hazardous Materials. I have worked for the Environmental Protection Agency, and have worked for a private company as a Field Process Engineer. I wanted to get off the road and start a new career and hopefully find a good woman to start a family with.
Now ... here I am reading comments on an article based on nursing shortages ..... I am actually almost floored by the negative viewpoints that these "senior" individuals have. You all are pretty much damning any new nurse trying to start a career for themselves. Pretty much telling us that if you see me in the hall .. that I should expect you to treat me with a great deal of disrespect because thats how you have been treated.
Maybe the problem isn't with the new nurses, maybe the problem isn't with the employers, and maybe it isn't with the senior nurses either. But it comes down to one core principle.... unless SOMEONE and EVERYONE chooses to stop spreading disrespect or negative agression towards those around them, nothing will change. Be caring mentors, and you'll get the respect of those just starting. If you glare at me the day I walk through the door and think here comes another one withh a chip on thier shoulder .. then you have allready judged me, and your glare leaves me no recourse but to find mentorship elsewhere... leaving you thinking I disrespect you. The reality of it is ... I just don't want to deal with the negative attitude your projecting.
O.k., I'm going to try one more time...........
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Are you freaking kidding me? Part of being an adult is taking responsibility for your own future. I'm not sure if you are aware but we are in what is called a recession. Let me say that slowly for you. Re-ces-sion. Please refer to dictionary.com if this concept wasn't covered in your program or your 5th grade vocabulary class. You are perfectly capable of keeping abreast of economic trends yourself. That's part of the homework in choosing a career. That along with the knowledge that things change.
My word. You, my dear, need to get a life and a grip. Take responsibility for your own future and stop passing the buck to others. I can't imagine someone like this working as a nurse. *shudder* Your lawyer probably thinks you are off your rocker and has a call in to the men in white coats already.
I love it LiveToLearn! Do you think they really care about us and our health? I am always worried about getting a UTI because I don't drink enough or take enough bathroom breaks. I have learned to force myself to take a break even if that means I have to stay over a little. If they complain about the overtime I will just tell them that I am taking the break I am legally allowed to take....especially since they take 30 mins from my check every day for lunch. Sorry I don't work for free!
Too bad nurses aren't offered the opportunity to visit the toilet every 2 hours. Most of us only get the chance to go once every 12 hours, if that. I'm gonna make a form for management. They will have to initial it, stating that they have checked that every nurse in the hospital has had the chance to pee every 2 hours, and to take a real uninterrupted break and lunch Any failures to complete the form will lead to a salary freeze.
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