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  • Sep 24 '12

    I searched for the phrase "Do nurses still eat their young" and the amount of information/forums on this topic is overwhelming. I am 4 weeks away from graduating nursing school, and chose the topic for a paper I have to write. Most every comment I've read in this thread (50+) has been at least passionate on each persons view. As a student nurse, and PCA on a very busy cardiac unit I can say with experience, and whole heartedly, that while not EVERY nurse, or even MOST nurses live out this "mantra", there most certainly are PLENTY that do that keep this mantra alive. I have experienced this "phenomenon" as a student, and employee and seen first hand a charge nurse whose been with a unit for 15+ years, degrade, and embarass a younger nurse (6+years) because said charge nurse had to get off her arse and do something more than sit at the nurses station ordering people around. Honestly. I am not joking. I saw one of my co-workers refuse to coassign with a student nurse! WHY!?!?!? Why would you refuse to allow a student nurse to work along side you with your patient assignment on a 12 hour shift? But then as a seasoned nurse you want to throw your nose in the air and act like all of us novice nurses are idiots? Please. Please. Please. Tell me then, how many of you have said something to the effect of "new nurses have no idea what its really like out here and have so much learning to do" but a seasoned nurse wants to scoff at the idea of TEACHING SOMEONE? There is only so much you can learn in school, and only so much theory is retained with no PRACTICE or real life relevence to apply it to. Clinical time is often spent with low acuity patients because instructors and seasoned nurses prefer not to put their license on the line to teach a student, but again I will say, you SCOFF at the pretense that A: new nurses need to learn and B: you may have to be the one that teaches them. Give me a break. I am a PCA. I am the one for 12+ hours a day being EVERYONES *****. I answer to call bells, to patients, to family members, to visitors, to doctors, and most certainly to ALL the nurses on my floor. I run around with a smile on my face, and turn my nose up in disgust at PCA's who think they are above the act of wiping arse's and giving baths. I have an entire floor to look after because much like the nursing profession, the PCA's on my floor are short staffed and if more than one of us is scheduled someone is always pulled to a new floor, because how dare we think we need more than one PCA to assist nurses for the 20+ patients on the floor. And let me tell you, if I'm late on chemstrips or VS, or can't get to a bell immediately and may need assistance from a nurse to actually answer a call bell, its my head on the chopping block, and that nurse that sits all day at the nurses station and pretends to be superior because shes been working for a billion years, shes the one running the guillitine (spelling?). So to all of you that would like to pretend that this is not a nursing phenomenon, but happens everywhere, or that its not true at all. Get over it. It is true, and it directly relates to nursing. The nursing profession is stressful, time consuming, and exhausting. And instead of embracing the idea of teaching someone HOW to help and be of use to you or relying on one another to get through the day, the first people who are lashed out on are the new nurses that may have a question to ask or need help doing something. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude. But get the hell over yourselves and start MENTORING rather than lashing out.

  • Sep 17 '12


    I got accepted to University of Southern Indiana's FNP program, it's about $300/h and is all online . If you enter the school's name in the search box, you can see what other students have thought of the program.

    University of South Alabama is another low cost school. University of Northern Kentucky is another one.
    Indiana State Univ is reasonably priced but no longer has MSN for NP- it only offers DNP now.

    Good luck with you search and future studies.

  • Jun 9 '12

    Hey, I just want to leave my story & maybe i can be someone inspiration like people's story has been mine ! i graduated for my LVN in 2008. i just got out of high school and my mom just threw me into the course, its NOT like i didnt want to be a nurse but i felt i was just too young !! but i got in the course and i was dealing with it, i got okay grades and i did good at clinicals, but i didnt pay attention enough to understand that there is a STATE test at the end. so we all graduated & i blew the NCLEX off like it was just a regualr test... i didnt pass... it was really much of a big deal to mean at the time, then i had a boyfriend from high school & he was just soo happy for me and i thought we were soo in love so i got pregnant which i thought ok , no big deal hes going to be there for me... but NO!! it was the complete opposite, after i had my daughter i had to a quick reality check, i had to do everything alone at 19yrs old , i had to move out and provide for my child by working at walmart, by this time the stress level was just UP , & i knew i had to test again becus it would be the only way to get out of my situation, so i tried and studied again but i had soo many things going on i just didnt pass... by that time i gave up, i told myself well maybe it wasnt meant to be. i let about 2 yrs pass and the stress level got even higher, more demands starting to take place, my boyfriend got abusive physically & emotionally and i felt like i was at the end... i still had in the back of my mind that i wanted this test but by studying with all the distractors in my life it just wasnt happening, in the two years i tested about 3 times , i took review courses but my mind just wasnt in it..&& it was just a disappointment and everytime i would ask god "why god, i'm in such a horrible situtaion why wont you bless me with this , i mean i have been trying " but it didnt work like that ! so i got so tired of the abuse and the verbal abuse telling me EVERY DAY that'll I'LL never amount up to anything & i couldnt take it anymore i got rid of HIM & that excess drama ... i picked up a job as a HHA and on my down time i would study, i would LIVE, SLEEP AND EAT NCLEX! i purchased the HURST review & just studied online everyday! i didnt watch TV or get on social networks..& remind you , over the years i PAID for about 3 different review courses! THIS HURST REVIEW ! was the best in my eyes, i needed content since i was out of school for sooooo long !! I did question, after question EVERYDAY! I SAT FOR my boards on 5/16/2012 and i got 205 questions and i just prayed for the best ! i didnt try the trick becus i was just mentally drained and i dont think i could handle seeing that credit card page ! so around midnight i checked & i got the GOOD pop up! so i HOPE THIS IS TRUE! : ) but the moral of my story is you CAN NOT , i mean CAN NOT go into the nclex with alot of distractors, you need a clear mind & positive thoughts!!!! if i CAN do it ANYONE can do it, i thought i lost all my knowlegde but i DID && im soo happy ! i can now take care of people & do what i love and also have a better future for my child and I ! good luck EVERYONE TESTING !! && HAVE FAITH IN GOD!!! WITH HIM ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE !!!! I FINALLY PASSED !!!!!! WOOOOOOHHHHH

  • Jun 1 '12

    Hello, new grad... I have a few suggestions that may help you out as you strive towards your goal of becoming a NICU nurse.

    Of course, you probably know, the ecomony isn't really good right now, but you cant use that towards your advantage at the moment. I know that you REALLLY, REALLY want to work in NICU, but keep in mind that you'll be up against A LOT of competition. So, here are a few recommendations to maybe get a "leg up" on the competition, which we know is TOUGH.

    First of all, get ANYTHING nursing related that you can. I know that L&D and mother/baby is also competitive as well. However, if you don't start somewhere, like ANYWHERE, you'll appear unemployeable and that's not good either. Here are some tips for trying to get into L&D or mother/baby:

    1. Consider taking a 3-day doula course for ~$500. There you will learn how to support the mom during labor using non-pharmacalogical techniques. This may show a perspective employeer that you are interested in the field and set you apart (possibly) from other candidates. While you are waiting for ANY job to come up, you may want to go ahead and get certfified as a doula. While I know that this has nothing to do with NICU, you will get your foot in the door as far as working with any type of neonate is considered. You may even want to consider just going and get certified as a labor doula through various organizations such as DONA (Doulas of North America) or CAPPA, just to know a few. That way if it takes a long time to land a coveted NICU job, you will come in with SOME experience. There are beginning and advanced courses, so if you can complete those, you will at least have experience others DON'T have. If you have the time, you may got on and get certified as a Certified Labor Doula and get experience that way.

    2. Secondly, consider taking a Certified Breastfeeding Educator conference/class. Debi Bocar teaches them and she lives in OKC. Check her schedule: she travels all over the US and her material is AMAZING. You'd think that after studying BF for 9 hours a day you'd want to go back to your hotel room and think nothing of the material. Quite the contrary for me: I went back every night and continued to devour her material. She's an awesome teacher and I highly recommend it. She even covers extensively breastfeeding in the NICU environment which will possibly make you stand out from other candidates.

    3. Now I'm not a nurse at time, but if you haven't done so already, you may want to take certification tests as such as PALS (which is the only one that comes to mind at the moment). There may be others, too.

    4. Being a volunteering as a cuddler in a NICU might help as well, but I've found these positions around here very few and far between in this area. But, it would give you some experience and face time with a nurse manager.

    I know that I've given you some ideas for L&D/mother/baby and I KNOW you want NICU. But honestly, I don't know it's a good idea waiting around for that coveted NICU position to open up. But others have said, take what you can get (after all, you worked so hard to get that BSN). Take some time, study what you want to do, but if anything comes around, TAKE IT, get some floor time, while at the same time, study for the things you want to do. That way I feel that you will be more marketable when YOUR NICU position opens up!

    My very best to you and I hope that you5 NICU position opens up soon. Best wishes to you!

  • May 7 '12

    Lean Cuisines to feed my kids dinner on "care plan nights." You know, those glorious days of picking your patient and then knowing you will be up until 2:00 am writing your 30 page care plan due the next morning at 6:30!! Didn't you just love those patients that had 40 meds?!!

    Don't miss those days!

  • May 30 '11

    Finally, after 12 years, I am officially a nursing student (again). I have OFFICIALLY been invited to join to LPN to RN transition program.

    I return to school June 13 I am SUPER DUPER excited. I will graduate next May.

    12 years ago, my daddy hand crafted a frame for my LPN license. He handed me an empty frame, and told me to fill it with my RN one day. My daddy passed away 6 years ago. I had the honor to go home and help take care of him the last 6 months of his life because of my education. I told him, I promised him... I WOULD fill that frame...

    In one year, that frame will be filled


  • May 25 '11

    Making friends is always important in any facet of life. You never know when you can help each other. My daughter made friends in nursing school. Know what they were doing besides study groups? Helping each other get jobs at their respective places of employment, that's what. There is a proverb in the Bible about walking with another so that if you fall, your buddy is there to pick you up. When you walk alone, there is no one there to pick you up when you fall.

  • May 25 '11

    Said "About ******* time" and breathed a sigh of relief

  • May 6 '11

    I already had a BA when I applied to my local CC. I was not eligible for any financial aid, they even told me when I turned in the application "don't bother applying for aid, you can't get anything". Well I'd saved money for years, and that's what I paid for the degree with. My advise to any second degree students is that unless you want to be hassled by collections companies for the next few decades, avoid loans at all costs. Just save and pay for it, or see if you have a relative who will front you the money.

  • Apr 5 '11

    Stay away from University of Phoenix. They will sign up a corpse as long it's getting Federal grant money.
    I once made the mistake of inquiring about their MSN program. They insisted that I retake basic nursing courses regardless of my experience.
    "Forget it," I told them.
    And, yet, one of their reps hounded me for weeks. Clearly, she was on flat commission and could care less about anything else.
    She finally stopped when I told her I was calling the Attorney General.
    Just my two cents.

  • Feb 18 '11

    Hi Clairebelle,

    I hope I can be of some help. I am in an accelerated ADN program and a lot of my fellow classmates are struggling with our first mod. I am one of 3-ish people out of 20 that are doing extremely well and not struggling, I am not bragging, but I will tell you how I do things and hopefully it helps you. I have a bachelors in another field so I have been in college for awhile and it took me quite some time to figure out what works best for me, so hang in there.

    I always read my chapters before class, I get a good general idea of what is going on an make flash cards, write notes, and/or use my study guide. When I go to class I am actively listening to the lecture because I have that general idea of what is going on. I highlight what my professor touches on in my book as we go. I know that she will test on what she lectures, but since I read the chapter I am okay on other concepts that help my knowledge base.

    We test every day since we are a 5 week accelerated school, so I have to stay one step ahead at all times. Big key, stay ahead of the game.

    To prepare for tests I review the lectures online and go to the website in my text book to take practice tests and whatever else they have on there. I also go over anything our professor posts to help us review.

    I never stay up late studying because if I do not sleep I will bomb the tests. I eat well, including a full breakfast and one cup of coffee every morning. I try to get to the gym too. I do not cram for tests because it causes anxiety and that is an ugly thing with test taking.

    So far this has worked for me, my last degree I had a 3.5 which I guess is okay. This time around I am getting near perfect grades on all my tests. My situation is helpful because I do not work, it is just me and my hubby, we have no kids, and I have a home office. This is not realistic for everyone but I hope it at least helps someone.

    Also I do not complain. I stay away from the complainers in my class, I am one of the only people who stays positive. I find this is helpful. I also do not get involved with the cliques or gossip. I am at school to get a career not to make a million friends and have people to drink with on Friday night. I am dedicating my life to this school and it is paying off, but I am making big sacrifices in my personal life to do it. If I make one or two good friends along the way then that is just a bonus.

  • Feb 15 '11

    my mom used to tell me not to let complete idiots rent space inside my head. useful advice!

  • Feb 15 '11

    Sounds like your program is perfect for preparing you for the world of nursing. The drama queens and valley girls seem to be a common type in the nursing "profession". You will also find a good assortment of golddiggers(got to marry me a doctor),and martyr complexs and doctor wan-a-be s. Hang in there- there are also a good number of smart, professional, dedicated nurses in practice. The longer you are in the profession, the more mature nurses who want to practice good patient care you are going to find. The best you can do is try to stick to why you are in the school-to learn, and try to stay out of the drama.

  • Feb 12 '11

    I forgot to share some great news with you guys. I was nominated by my instructor's (nursing assistant) to receive a scholarship! It's in memory of a woman who was a CNA and wanted to become a nurse. She died in a car wreck. My instructor said that I work hard and take pride in my work, I get good grades, and I balance all of this while being a single mom. I am so excited. There is even an awards banquet I have to attend. I am so happy that someone besides God, myself and my family realize that I am a hard worker and I want to succeed. Thank You, God!

  • Feb 8 '11

    One of my classmates had NINE children going through school. She drove over an hour to get there and was planning to divorce her husband at the time (hence the return to college). I had just gotten a divorce, was raising two children, had no car for four years, my mom and best friend died the day before I started. I hauled laundry and groceries any way I could, worked in a bar, sold shoes and prayed a lot (cried too). But I made it....if you want to you will, if there is no drive then you won't. Good luck to you - there are tons of stories of "survivors of nursing school" out there. Another one of my classmates gave birth to twins the last semester of school You'lll make it, don't worry. Have fun !