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I don't know -- maybe I tend to glamorize the NP job a bit, but I'd rather make $80 or 90K and NOT have to run on my feet 12 hours straight, wade in poop and all the other various bodily fluids, put up with less than endearing nurses and techs, patients falling, screaming, confused and demanding that i bring them their JELLO and adjust their tissue box all day from one end of the table to the other ON SATURDAYs, holidays and the various other days that always seem to fall on the days when I need off.
I'm going for lifestyle as much as i am for salary.
Just saw an NP in primary care for my own care the other day ...her job looked pretty nice and she wasn't sweating or stressing out a whole lot as far as I could see. She looked nice, her hair was done, her makeup wasn't sliding off.
Not that I don't believe the job isn't stressful ...
For a second income, as far as my own personal life goes, it's definitely GREAT pay.
I would also relish the thought of dealing with patient for a short time and going onto the next ...not spending an entire 12 hour day w/ the same person.
Also all the teaching possibilities and other areas one can move into w/ the graduate degree. It's not always all about money.
I am about seven months off orientation now, and it seems I'm still making mistakes, even worse ones. Every day I walk in, there seems to be something that just gets thrown at me and there just aren't the friendly preceptors around now -- just the nasty old seasoned nurses who aren't too nice about my mistakes. I get tired of it, but try to go on and chalk it up to learning and "doing the time." Even though the experiences are trying, I'm learning from them and hope to fall back on it at some point.
I was horrible in a code situation last night, and I just feel like the biggest dope this a.m. I was surrounded by all the experienced hot shots who basically reduced me to an errand girl in a code for MY patient -- ****** me off. They just all seem to come in and take over and it can make you feel like THEY dont' trust YOU to know what you're doing. The problem is -- that vibe actually reduces my confidence and I start screwing up -- I hate it when that happens.
I just wish over and over the "seasoned" nurses would cut new nurses some fricking SLACK. How can we automatically perform brilliantly in every situation when we haven't even lived through them yet? There is often "teaching" on skills in theory, but no real life experience taught until you're knee deep in crap --
I dont' know the answer -- it's just incredibly painful to be climbing up that learning curve!
This is exactly why I love being an NP! For years when I took care of a 50 y/o in full blown CHF b/c of 10 years of untreated hypertension I would wonder "who in the heck was taking care of this patient and did they REALLY communicate to him what was going on?" Sure, there are people who are going to do their own thing no matter what, but let me tell you I have some crazy high hypertensive patients and they are coming back q. 2 weeks until we get a stable BP...and they are doing GREAT! I love talking with my 35 y/o obese depressed women who are pre-hypertensive and pre-diabetic and laying it all out for them and coming up with a plan.
I start work around 9 and am busy until noon when the madness STOPS. The office doors CLOSE and I sit down and eat a nice lunch, check my email, chill out for 40 minutes and then finish my morning charts. I do not have to transfer 300 lb post-CABG patients to the bedside chair q 4 times a day; I am not pushing gurneys, lifting patients on bedpans, kneeling on the concrete floor of the ER desperately trying to get an IV in on the coding patient while simultaneously trashing my knees! I get to PEE multiple times DAILY! The working conditions don't even compare. I am a very fit 40 something who has always taken great care of her body but there is just no.way. I could continue doing 12 hr. shifts in the hospital.
They are just killing me. Why is it that so many of them feel so entitled to sit in their aging parents rooms and just boss us nurses to HELL and back, while they sit there, fully able to do much of what we're doing for their parent, but simply do NOT have the time to do when we have other patients and issues to deal with. i MEAN -- can't they get mom up at least perhaps ONCE during the day? Does it have to be a nurse doing it every single time, ten times a day??
I just came off a shift tonight where I literally waitressed all day long, making and fetching coffee and water and 100 millions cups of juice for these patients (because we're always short a tech) -- and a patient's daughter was literally screaming at nurses at change of shift to come in and do something or other for her mother. It was absolutely NOT an emergency. (She was actually screaming -- "Good thing it WASN'T an emergency!!" These people have been on our unit for over 2-3 weeks, running every nurse on the unit ragged. Their mother is far over 80 years old and is only going to head to weeks of rehab after being on our unit. They want a private nurse -- that is what they want and need. But they can't get that on a floor. I think their call light was on for perhaps five minutes, max.
I am just SO tired of family members not understanding what we do -- and our managers from the floor to the corporate headquarters not backing us up to explain it to them. We are simply to treat everyone as our "family members" and go above and beyond 1000 percent of the time. Who goes above and beyond FOR NURSES??? DOES ANYONE???
We have no private space to do our charting, we are like fish in a bowl for these family members. If they see you at the nursing station -- that's it. They are ON YOU like flies. If they don't have a reason to bug you, they will find one. So, you don't get your charting done on time and are left to stay after a shift for an hour.
I am just so tired of it. So burnt out. Is it any wonder why they can't keep nurses for long? I mean -- come on, management -- take a LOOK at what you are doing to nurses nowadays. Put some LIMITS, please, on these family members. It is OUT OF CONTROL.
To the devoted son who stayed in the room w/ his demented mom all night -- you ARE one amazing person to be here with your aging parent, to stay, to help, to do what a family member SHOULD do when their aging parent is in the hospital. You are probably one of the FIRST I've seen do this in a year's time.
However, since you ARE staying, it's not fair to expect me and the other pt in the room to be quiet so your mom can sleep. Your mom won't sleep anyway, and this patient also has a right to care and is going to make noise during the night. That's just the way it is -- our hospital hasn't built the new building w/ private rooms, yet.
But other than that, I thank you PROFUSELY for staying and doing the right thing. You are not a handsome man, but you would make a great catch for any woman, if you are not already married. Not a lot left like you out there anymore. :wink2:
Hey there -- I actually grew up in Morgantown myself! I've never worked there as a nurse, but I've always known they had a very established and viable hospital system there. Long, long time ago I almost went to WV for a dental hygenist program.
Morgantown is an AWESOME town to live in, though -- small, yet cultured -- it's a college town, so there's a lot to do (WVU games, etc.). Housing can be cheaper at least than on the east coast, although not dirt cheap.
It's where my hubby and I want to relocate to eventually ...schools are great and the town is just a classic small town to grow up in. In parts of town, you really can walk everywhere ...WV is also generally just a beautiful state to live in.
PM me if you want to know more! Or, google Morgantown and they have some great web sites w/ through their chamer of commerce,e tc. It's a fantastic town to raise a family in!
I feel, although I'm not even accepted into a program yet, that nursing is just about the toughest job in the hospital. At least as an NP, I may be able to sit and concentrate, perhaps, on one thing at a time -- or at least on one case at a time. I will not be interrupted with 1,000 tiny little things -- to fetch water, stop someone from falling, answer a tele call, check off 1,000 tiny little scribbled orders off a page -- I mean -- I want to study and think about one thing at a time! I also want to work a normal schedule! I don't care if, as a NP, that I EVER even hit the 6 figure mark -- I just want a normal schedule and the ability to study a patient, a case, and THINK about it, uninterrupted. I look forward, actually, to working part time as an NP. I don't care if my salary even goes UP -- I just want a different work pattern -- a different work lifetyle.
Also, if I am going to get treated like crap -- I'd rather it be by doctors who AT LEAST have more education and training than me -- whom I respect. I'm tired of being treated like crap by techs, by secretaries, by bosses w/ hardly any more education than I have -- simply because politically, they rank higher than me. It seems everyone can beat up the nurse and get away with it. I've had it with that. Money isn't everything -- it's not everything AT ALL.
Really appreciate all the responses here. While I do understand that it's important to remain professional, this place I'm at is like a psycho ward. It's a new rehab hospital that has only been open for 6 months. So far they've fired one nurse who I've worked with for years and who was an outstanding RN in every respect for what just seemed petty reasons more than anything. They also just fired the Chief Nursing Officer and none of us can figure out why. Both of these employees were asked to resign w/ no notice ....why should we as employees, then be concerned about giving this organization our notice?
Over the weekend we had a stream of new admissions, yet the MD would not come in to write admitting orders in person for some 8 hours. Our computer system also went down, so here we all were, w/ no orders, no MARS for 2-3 hours while doing a.m. meds. We ran out of flushes halfway through, so I had to make many of my own w/ needles, etc. It was INSANE. I just feel there is no guidance now from any of the remaining mgrs, everyone seems to be too busy to talk, or, "well, your'e an experienced nurse now, you should be able to train for 3 days and just DO this ...techs are horrid, lack of staff, lack of help. This hospital is accepting more acute demented falls risk patients by the day even though it's supposed to be rehab only. Falls are in the uprise in this place because no one is watching . ...I'm just over it. I'm only part time and NEVER, EVER want to work for this establishment again . ..ever. I also do not feel I will ever run into any of the management again.
I feel at this point, that in any upcoming interview I'd be glad to explain why I left suddenly. If doctors aren't available to be there to admit patients, if we can't even stock basic supplies, if we're grossly overworked and understaffed ....why shouldn't I leave?
I'm in grad school and doing very well. I want to be an NP someday, but I need to retain my RN license. I'm a good nurse, but still need guidance as I've only been an RN for 3 years. I just can't deal with no guidance, no help, nothing ... I feel at risk the moment I walk in. In this situation, I feel that walking out IS the lesser evil.
I was at my former job for 3 years. Although it was bad, also -- I never felt abandoned by MD's, or had to search for supplies. I almost always had what I needed to do my job.
I have to agree and it's seriously disappointing after doing all this work and testing. What I'm seeing in my very large metro area is a lot of acute care positions, which are tough to take if you just finished an FNP program. There are the jobs where you need spanish (like when did this become a job "requirement"? ), and there are the jobs that want the inevitable 1-2 years experience. There are the weird jobs that you don't feel like taking because it would box you in ...and there are 100's of retail jobs advertised, but I can't seem to get ANY results from putting in applications to Minute Clinic, Target or elsewhere. It's disappointing. I do notice that the jobs that were posted 6 months ago have seen to vanish ...maybe it's cyclical? They talk about needing so many NP's with the coming healthcare changes, but tell me, how will they train all of us? I also feel residency programs are going to have to evolve ...or we will be looking at a dire shortage of experienced family practice NP's, IMO. Seems this "problem" of primary care shortage can just never be solved intelligently in this country ....
All I can say is since I have obtained this degree, I have always had a job, and worked when and how much I wanted to -- where many others seem to struggle and get laid off.
That said, I did it because i needed to get my kids through college and pay off enormous debts and keep up w/ the cost of living. It does allow me to do all that ....
However, I work like a DOG most days ...I mean -- we are seriosly and hideiously OVERWORKED and underpaid. To be overworked is really a stifling and oppressive thing ...not many people really work this way in their everyday cubicle type jobs. The workload and stress that nurses deal with is really inhumane. I truly hate that part of it ...and the way that nurses are blamed for everything, yet have NO authority over ANYONE!!!
I sometimes -- no I often wish I would have just stuck w/ my former career in journalism, or become an executive secretary or some such thing .. .would have been paid as well ...however, not sure I would have kept a job or had the same flexibility.
It's a love/hate thing ...it really is. I DO learn a lot about human beings in this job ....it has given me amazing perspectives on life, people, and my own life -- how really pretty good it is.
it's a mixed bag, this nursing thing. But i'm always pretty proud to tell people I'm a nurse ...
I'm SO happy, though -- am working on my masters in nursing, and that really will open up a lot of doors to me ....I'm grateful for that.
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