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    shycat and Kitiger like this.

    You must live with the folks if your expenses are so low. That is great and it is wonderful that you have that option. I would suggest reading about personal finance. Some books I like include Personal Finance for Dummies by Eric Tyson, Deal with your Debt and Your Credit Score by Liz Weston. Take a personal finance class online thru a cheap tech college if you are interested. Start paying off your student loans, pay attention to the highest interest ones such as private loans first. Start a Roth IRA you can contribute $5500 a year, start a 403B with your employer at least at 6% eventually to 10-15%. Once you move out your expenses will rise so it is good to learn about money and budgeting now. An interesting idea from Senator Elizabeth Warren's book All Your Worth is a budget of 50/30/20. Keep your needs to 50% if you can, then you have 30% wants and 20% for saving and debt reduction. Consider a high deductible health plan if your employer offers it and maxing out your HSA even if you are healthy it is a good idea for future health expenses as you get older or even for retirement. It is a good idea to have disability insurance if you are lucky it is offered at work, do it when you are young as up to 25% of people will become disabled before they are 65! When you plan to move out you'll need first months rent and a security deposit plus money for furnishings. Also you will need a reliable car to get around. Of course, you should spend some money on yourself besides just saving. I encourage people to take vacations when they are young, you don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time.

    I wish I had known more about money when I was younger. Reading Personal Finance for Dummies really opened my eyes and it motivated me to start saving for retirement. I encourage everyone to learn about personal finance.

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    Union-Jack, amoLucia, macawake, and 9 others like this.

    I don't envy them and after reading other comments I realized nothing I say is adequate in the face of what others have gone through or are going through. I wish everyone that is struggling peace and healing.

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    Quote from butters9812
    Hey everyone,

    I'm coming here because I need advice and i'm starting to question why I even went into nursing to begin with. Anyone I talk to about this who isn't a nurse just does not understand

    I'm a nurse on a really busy stepdown/telemetry unit at a hospital, I have been there for about 9 months right out of school. I was so happy to be hired on a critical care floor right out of school and extremely thankful for the opportunity, but I am extremely unhappy. Although I feel more comfortable now than I did first off orientation, I'm starting to think I either chose the wrong profession or I am in the wrong place.

    I love my patients and I love taking care of people, my manager told me I am doing great, but I HATE my job. I dread going to work every single day. I work night shift. I have had really really bad nights. I feel like I am the only nurse who keeps having horrible nights where patients are in super critical condition and I need to call the rapid response team. The other nurses on my floor are awesome and so is my manager, but these horrible nights stay with me for months and I have such anxiety about it. On my days off all I do is worry about when I have to work next. I had a really bad night recently which I will not get into but it was horrible and involved a patient screaming in pain. I do not even want to go back into work because i felt so horrible about this one patient. We have 5 patients at night and they are all usually very critical. I feel like i have no time to even spend with my patients because i have so much work to do. I feel guilty about not doing enough for my patients. I get flap from the day team if one stupid thing isn't done even if I explain that my night was horrible and i spent all night with one patient who was very critical. I give props to all the RN's out there who can handle high stress situations. I don't want to do it. I know every RN job out there has its pros and cons. I am hoping i can find a job where I am happier than i am now.

    I don't mean to rant but I need to get out. I need to know what else i can do. I would love a job where I can spend more time with patients, where is it slower pace. I think some nurses are great in critical care, but i am sensitive and cannot handle the stress over and over and over.

    I haven't even been at my job for a year which is why if i leave now i think it will be hard to find another job, and i know my manager would be really disappointed if i left now. With that being said, I do not feel like myself and I just want to be happy.

    Thank you for anyone who read this horribly long post, ANY advice is appreciated.

    I totally understand the stress but remember you are doing a good job and you are catching issues before a patient codes. The RRT is a wonderful resource for the floor nurse. Many have protocols so they can start ordering tests and treatments before a Dr is called. If you have a house Dr or hospitalist even better, but in the old days we were left waiting on a Dr to call back and hoping the patient didn't code. Once in a while the supervisor would have your back and place a patient in ICU without a Dr order as they recognized how critical the patient was. I have witnessed codes that didn't have to take place before the RRT and they make a critical difference in patient's outcomes. Also you are right some patients are unstable and they may be on the floor due to lack of beds or ICU staff to care for them. Patient acuity has only risen over the years!

    You are being vigilant and remember it is better to be over vigilant than to be lackadaisical. The RRT should be supporting you and mentoring you and in time you'll better know if its a real emergency or not. I used to call the Dr's all the time just to be on the safe side as a new nurse and believe or not I felt supported and even thanked by the Dr for calling. Very rare was a Dr irate or ungrateful. Over time I realized patients were more stable than I first thought and didn't call the Dr as much as when I was a new grad. It was hard for me to get used to the RRT because I was used to handling everything myself, but I was encouraged to call them anyway to validate their need and because they had protocols for treatment as you know Dr's don't always call back quickly. These teams are one of the few resources the corporate overlords haven't taken away where I work. I don't think they dare to cut them because they have national support from the IHI Institute for Healthcare Improvement!

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    martymoose and skydancer7 like this.

    Quote from not.done.yet
    Sounds like maybe you need to consider a therapist or classes to help you manage stress. I would suggest you leave nursing for a different career, but facts are that there are no stress-free jobs out there. Maybe a little help managing anxiety would help you adjust and develop some longevity? There are some positions considered less stressful than others, but as soon as I name them those in that specialty will pipe up here to mention the stress they are under. You will need to develop coping skills. However, the job you are describing sounds like a nightmare and not a very good place to try to do that.
    There are jobs with less stress. I know because I used to work as a secretary and there was no stress there. I worked for about six different employers some as a temp and a couple for 2 to 5 years and there is no comparison. No stress whatsoever! Of course the pay was not enough. As a new grad my pay was twice as much vs a secretary. Now probably 3-4 times as much, but I do miss those carefree days, even the sometimes boring times! Also you always got your lunch and it was usually an hour! Also was treated very well by all except a word processing job which was the only job that micromanaged the staff. I quit that within 6 months for my best gig yet! Stayed there 5 years till went to nursing school. I sure miss that job!

    I think pay would be better if you were a legal secretary or executive secretary or even a paralegal. As far as nursing I've been told clinic nursing or hospice is less stressful. Suggestions consider ultrasound tech as a lateral move such as an echo tech or mom/baby sonographer. Look into any public community tech programs for ultrasound tech. Or consider advancing your career to NP, not that it would be stress free, but a different type of stress. I knew a coworker who got a job as a Dr office manager and she seemed much happier. Just another thought.

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    3ringnursing, Brooke2009, Lev <3, and 2 others like this.

    Go to the other interview and ask to shadow if they don't already offer shadowing which I've heard is common practice now. Then pay attention to the vibes and see if it seems better run. If its better I would bail from the job you are currently in.

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    brownbook likes this.

    Your experiences and feelings are pretty typical for most nurses, especially new grads. Since you have cardiac experience check out Dr offices especially cardiac, clinics, cardiac rehab or consider working in the cardiac cath lab. You don't have to stay where you are. Take care of yourself, possibly consider seeing your Dr for meds to help cope in the meantime. Good luck with whatever you do.

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    SmilingBluEyes and Just Jojo like this.

    You're not too old, but please rethink the private college especially if its very expensive as most are! Student loans are the worst debt out there and I would avoid them like the plague or at least keep them to the absolute minimum. I went to a private ADN program and graduated with $22,000 in debt back in 93 that took me over 20 years to pay off. I was making $13 hour as a new grad, twice my previous pay as a secretary but the student loans really dragged me down and with rent and a car payment took over half my income. I ended up not paying them off in ten years, took deferments a couple times because of health issues and money issues. I hate to think how much money on interest I wasted. For years I regretted the loans and wondered if I was really any better off financially when I had to write the loan check each month. I'm so grateful and relieved to finally be free of them!

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    Quote from ModernRN
    I am a nurse and chose to go to nursing school for my career. I have no desire to be a physician otherwise I would have gone to med school. I agree that going above and beyond is nice and feels great to be able to provide quality nursing care. But what about those nurses who stress that their license is gonna be taken away and or be disciplined at work over issues that the physician is dropping the ball on? Its not fair as this can cause increased nursing anxiety which can lower the nurses threshold to stress and decrease the ability to provide quality nursing care and may even be a big cause of nursing burnout. Why is no one supporting boundaries between the professions?
    I find it odd that your hospital expects the nurses to get Dr's to write correct orders. Don't most places use computer programs like Cerner or Epic where the Drs are prompted by the micromanaging computer to put in correct orders like DVT prophylaxis, SCD's etc. Regardless it seems like the hospital should take it up with the Drs themselves. The computer big brother usually cues the correct orders and even forces them to put it in. Also we have nurses that go over the patients chart to maximize reimbursement that message the Dr suggesting best diagnoses and/or data necessary to support this.

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    Quote from Palliative Care, DNP
    In addition to all of these points, what happened to wanting to pursue higher education for self improvement? Why are nurses not aspiring to learn more and better prepare themselves?
    School costs money, lots of money, tuition keeps going up faster than inflation and many nurses don't have the time to go back to school with their family responsibilities. I loved college and have a liberal arts background and an ADN, but I have no desire to go back to school and take out student loans when I'm so close to retirement. I think it is very dangerous to take out student loans especially later in life.

    If I was forced to get a BSN I would choose the cheapest online option I could find. The corporate system I work for requires new RN's to get their BSN in 3 years or lose their job. They haven't forced current RN's to go back although I've heard of hospitals that have done that. I just hope I can make it to retirement before things change!

    But for the young, I recommend getting the BSN and seriously considering getting an NP. But spend as little money as possible and seek out low cost college options if you can.

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    Why so many piling on because Modern RN spoke his mind about his negative experiences and feelings about being a nurse. There are so many vent threads on this forum, too numerous to count, about the negatives of nursing. All of sudden everyone and his brother feels the need to come and proclaim their love for nursing, how wonderful it is and how he should just get out! Sounds pretty judgemental to me. Why the hypocropsy! Why are nurses supposed to say they love their job in spite of all the well documented problems we all face or most of us anyway.

    Let's be honest we don't all love nursing, many do it because they need the money and now have student loans to pay back. Many are going into nursing because its one of the few jobs that pay a living and many already have degrees in other fields but are unable to get a decent paying job so go into nursing.

    If I could afford to I would leave nursing. But I am too young to retire and have a mortgage etc and need a job that pays a living wage. People suggest if you are not happy get a different job and they suggest clinic or homecare etc. Maybe that will work for some people, but probably not for the number of burnt out nurses that want a change. I doubt there are enough jobs available especially since many clinics are now using medical assistants instead of LPN's yet alone RN's. Also I don't like the idea of the wear and tear of your car if you go the homecare route and may end up being paid by the visit.

    I honestly would not recommend nursing to anyone either for all the many negatives that I have neither the time or desire to rehash! I understand people are going to continue to go into nursing for the need of a decent paycheck and the hope to make a difference, but the reality is many will be blocked by corporate healthcare's need to grind them into the ground to make an excess profit for the CEO and his buddies at the top!

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    TriciaJ likes this.

    Once again a small serving of ice cream is our gift! In years past they have published our names in the newspaper, which upset a coworker who didn't want her stalker ex to know where she worked, another time did an angel campaign asking patients to nominate their nurse "angel". Once even said they had donated to a charity in our names, rather than give us an actual gift! Apparently they thought we make too much money to actually want a cash gift. Bet they got a tax deduction for it though! Oh and they reminded us we are free to purchase some uniform accessories with their logo! LOL

    For what it's worth they used to offer a meal if you work Thanksgiving or Christmas now it's only a coupon for a dessert. Times are tough can't afford a whole meal I guess!

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    fawnmarie likes this.

    This is a wonderful place to learn and share and commiserate with our struggles. It's been 15 years since I joined. I love being able to learn about what's happening across the country and about the different type of nursing jobs out there. This is just such a great resource! Priceless!

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    BookishBelle likes this.

    es it's hard on your hands, especially in winter. But it's even harder on your back, shoulders, body and your mental health! It is very stressful and can be anxiety provoking and overwhelming at times! If you are concerned about how your hands are going to hack it, I don't think you are cut out for nursing. That is such a little thing among all the many other negatives and at least it is treatable with lotions. Don't take this personally, because truthfully I think very few people can work as floor nurses and still preserve their sanity and their backs. I don't recommend it to anybody!

    We are continuously short staffed, overworked, pressured to pick up overtime because they refuse to hire enough nurses, which leads to even more turnover and more pressure on the few remaining! My family doesn't understand why I don't work overtime, they have no clue what it's like. Honestly I feel I have PTSD from all I've dealt with and been thru as a nurse over the years. I used to work overtime, but that was 15 years ago when I was younger in my thirties. Also the patients were easier to deal with back then, most spoke english, it was rare to have a morbidly obese patient and now it is practically a daily occurence of 300-500 pounds and throw in the foley free movement and you have a recipe for disaster and injury! Also many more psyche patients, dementia, alcohol drug withdrawal etc. There is just no way I can bring myself to work overtime and I'm just saving all my money so I can make it to an early retirement. Aside from the increased patient acuity corporate healthcare admin just keeps cutting our resources, raising our staffing ratios. I honestly don't know why anybody would want to be a nurse and I don't recommend it!

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    You hit the nail on the head. The average salary for RN's is around $65,000. Sure with overtime you could make a lot more, but who wants to work their life away! Other than the coasts where cost of living is insane I don't know of RN's making $100,000 without doing lots of overtime or agency/pool where they float from place to place with no guarantee of steady hours.

    Some FNP's may make that but I read on here all the time FNP being offered $70,000-80,000 starting and then may have to pay for their benefits insurance and own retirement, unless they work for a hospital organization.

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    I wonder if you are overly sensitive and misreading the nurses. I haven't ever witnessed what you are describing. We appreciate the RT's and know they too are overworked and can't be in two places at once. If the nurses are truly as you describe I would think then they are testing you as you said you are new, but I would be surprised if they were really discounting you. I'm not an ICU nurse, although I have worked with vents and inline suctioning.

    I hope things get better for you and good luck on your next career goal. Don't write off all nurses, we all need to work together as a team.


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