brandy1017 29,421 Views
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I am trying to wrap my head around ,raising the minimum wage /nursing salaries .In my area CNA 11/hour ,Lpn 17/hour,Rn 25hour .
Recently they mandate RNs to have a 4 year degree ,which costs between 40-200 k.
If minimum wage increases to 15 hr ..this would force an increase..How can you pay McDonald's workers more ..when CNA's are
doing backbreaking work ,nightshift ,leaving thier families on weakends and holidays ? This would force a increase all the way up .I do worry though ..that this will make staffing short /and healthcare insurance prices to rise .
Is there anybody in the world, in any line of work, that doesn't feel that they're underpaid?
Money is important, but it is not the only consideration. If you are happier at the second job I would highly consider making the switch. See if you can negotiate the pay rate. When you switch jobs is your best chance to negotiate on pay! If they really like you as they seem, see if they will match your pay. While you say you like your first job ICU has a very high rate of burnout and is by definition stressful, and to top it off you are being forced to work short staffed. Stress adversely affects our health, the increased cortisol can raise BP, HR and even lead to weight gain. Add to that the wear and tear on your back & body in a critical care job, is it really worth it?
The state retirement benefits are a plus, but investigate how sound the states finances actually are in general and in relation to the pension fund. For example CA & IL are very underfunded and IL is having a financial crisis and not making payments even to hospitals and other care providers. Michigan has been having problems and the city of Detroit has even cut back its pension payments to current retirees, unheard of till recently. Pensions are going the way of the dinosaur. If you have them consider yourself lucky, but still save just in case. Many have been frozen and many of us have "church" pensions which means they don't pay into the federal pension insurance so you literally could find yourself with little or no pension if the hospital system went bankrupt! Keep saving at least 6% in a retirement account, ideally 10-15% but don't count on your pension alone!
Where I work we are perpetually short staffed to increase profits for the corporate CEO. The stress is very high and over the years I've witnessed several nurses literally have nervous breakdowns and end up losing their jobs. I've been reduced to going on medication to cope with the stress, feel trapped, and am just counting down till retirement!
Seriously your happiness and emotional health matter as much as, if not more than just money! If the second job makes you happier go for it! You can always work extra at your old job for the money and keep your foot in the door just in case; but I bet you'll thank your lucky stars you are no longer short staffed and stressed out all the time. I wish I had that choice. The best job I ever had was as a secretary, but the pay would not support me, let alone pay my mortgage. How I wish I could go back to that job and not deal with the stress and the corporate BS I deal with now!
Thanks for the input, I really value your opinions. I totally understand that the soda is for the caffeine, I'm OK with it, really, but that gives him one more positive consequence to being in my office. He has a slow growing low grade Astrocytoma. He talks a lot from the victim standpoint where he has endured a lot. I don't discredit that viewpoint, but I believe one can get further by not staying there. Had a 5 minute conversation with mom and dad, so hard to gauge where they are with this. My principal thinks a meeting with mom and dad is in order.
Sounds like a blessing in disguise. You should have at least a three month orientation some places are longer in ICU. Take what you've already learned and apply it to the step down unit. If you really want to go back to ICU try again after a year in step down. Where I work we've had nurses transferred to step down just like you and also there have been problems with ICU RN's who may be good at their job but lack the social skills to be orienting new grads!
Best bet consider transferring to another hospital for ICU if you still want to do that. Forget about feeling like a failure, that is not the case, they didn't give you a chance. There is a steep learning curve and it's obvious they are having problems both in ICU and IMCU to have so many openings. Admin may be part of the problem, short staffing, mandating and unfortunately some nurses take their stress out on new grads and in an ideal world they shouldn't be orienting period!
We've had nurses that have successfully gone back to the ICU after they were "demoted" to step down by us. They succeeded by getting some more experience and then transferring to another hospital system. If ICU is really for you I'm sure you'll be able to do the same, but given all the problems at the hospital you are at you also may be more successful in another hospital system! Good luck!
2 Cents here -
Honestly, chances are they will fire you or force you to resign the moment they find a replacement.
Do you watch Game of Thrones? If so, remember the scene where Queen Cersei ripped up a will?
Don't bother asking the DON how to resign. Read your employee's handbook; it should explain how to do it. You are not obligated to stay at any job; read the contract, pay the penalty, and bounce. Ideally, you should not quit until you have another job secured BUT you are at a breaking point and you revealed to DON that you want to resign, so... The sooner, the better, before they do something to mess with your license.
Also - are you willing to relocate? There are hospitals that will take nurses with even a month of experience, though, they (at least the ones I have come across) prefer 6 months - and you got that.
I'm at this point right now...sorry for the vent
Today marked 6 months at my current position (Med-Surg) and 11 1/2 months of working as a nurse. It started off with one of my patients deciding that I wasn't paying enough attention to his needs. He told me he was paying for me to do whatever he said to do when he said to do it, despite the fact that most of what he wanted required doctor's orders that I didn't have at that time (I got them, but not fast enough). So he complained about me to the charge nurse and DON and fired me. Then as if that didn't make the day suck enough I was given another patient (to trade the one that fired me) and I went and made my first med error and it was one that could have killed or seriously harmed my patient. I was lucky that he was okay and I'll never make that mistake again. I MIDAS reported myself and then several hours later the DON wrote me up for the error. So much for MIDAS reports being "teaching tools for how to prevent errors not reports used to punish" as we were told repeatedly in orientation.
I tried asking the DON how to put in my resignation even though I have a new grad contract and would have to pay back a bunch of money but he told me no I couldn't quit and that he wanted to work to see if I had potential. That sounds like he needs a warm body on the floor whether I'm safe or not. Sorry you are short handed but at this point I am no longer safe to work as a nurse and as it was never a calling for me but just a job (one that I've really hated for most of the year I've done it), it doesn't seem fair to co-workers or patients to keep trying to force myself to be a nurse. I don't trust myself anymore so how can anyone else trust me? Not sure how to get out of this except by turning in my license to the BON as being unsafe, but that seems a little extreme just to leave a job that I can't and don't want to do anymore.
Sorry for the long rant, I just don't know what to do. My mom is so excited that I'm a nurse but doesn't understand that I'm miserable. I cry at least once a week and I'm tired of it. Wal-Mart at $10 an hour looks so much better right now.
Sounds like the ideal dream job for many of us burnt out hospital nurses. Hospital nursing is so overrated! Many of us leave for insurance or clinic jobs just to not be overworked. Most hospitals either short staff or mandate staff to 16 hours on a regular basis rather than hire enough nurses in the first place. The stress can be incredible, many nurses don't even got real lunch breaks and most places do 12 hour shifts.
If I were you I would thank your lucky stars such a wonderful and great paying position fell into your lap. Please take advantage of this great opportunity and stop thinking hospital nursing is all that. I would gladly trade my job and take this wonderful job if you're not interested. Seriously! I'm so sick of bedside nursing knowing I will be working short, higher patient ratios and forced to work 16 hours because they didn't even bother to staff with enough nurses in the first place! You are not missing anything good belive me! I'm just trying to make it to retirement with my body and mind intact from the hellish stress in nursing!
As a new nurse, I really appreciate this article. That night shift though! My body is NOT a fan.
Yes many more nurses are planning on using bedside nursing as a paid residency and going on to NP. It is a viable alternative to medical school if you don't want to specialize, saves time, money and student loan debt. Also working conditions at the bedside are also leading many nurses to flee and pursue other options like NP and I don't blame them. They are really the smart ones as things are unlikely to improve with corporations running the show and trying to squeeze profit at the expense of patients and healthcare workers. If I was younger I would do it too. As it is I'm just counting down to retirement the sooner the better and saving all my money to retire early!
Your manager doesn't really have your back or she would have used her influence to get you a benefited position! I would start looking elsewhere to other hospitals as you now have nursing experience. For some unknown reason you are being held back and it looks like you need to apply somewhere else. Benefits are important, the longer you let this continue the worse off you will be as it leaves you without health insurance, PTO and retirement benefits. Also being kept as RN I is detrimental to you when applying to other jobs. The sooner you get a new job the better off you will be! Don't wait any longer. Your manager is making excuses. I find it hard to believe your manager could not give you a benefited position if she really wanted to!
The extreme lack of diplomacy?? First and foremost my university has an open door policy. We are encouraged by our professors and by the Dean of Nursing to be vocal about any problems we may or may not have within the college. They want our feedback on our clinical instructors, they actually ask that we give feedback and fill out surveys on our experience with them. There is no extreme lack of diplomacy on my part by any means. She was just sticking up for me since most of these people on the thread are crude and distasteful. Some of you act like you were never a nursing student. It was one post. The majority of comments on here are accusatory based what they interpreted from the original post. A lot of "reading in between the lines" but they completely missed the boat.
It sounds like your grandma needs medical care that only her Dr and probably the hospital can provide, like IV fluids and IV antibiotics to treat an infection like pneumonia. She is struggling to breathe from what you say and stress that she can be made more comfortable with breathing treatments to open the airways and oxygen if needed. By staying at home she is suffering needlessly.
We do it for that small percentage of patients who come back and thank us later.
I bought my husband a coffee mug with a quote that says "To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world." I look at every code from the perspective that while it's just another patient to us, that patient might be someone's whole world. To give someone the gift of more time with their loved one is a precious thing. Quality time, that is; I agree that sometimes we code someone because their family cannot yet let go, though they probably should.
It's been common practice where I work to have the CNA shadow a nurse and vice versa for one day during orientation to gain insight into what each other does and to build teamwork. If you are working in bedside nursing you'll be doing CNA work along with the more techinical nursing skills. I recommend nursing students work either as CNA's or as interns during school to gain skills and confidence and ease the transition to floor nursing. I marvel at some of our CNA's who have a wonderful bedside manner and welcome and comfort the patients and make them feel right at home.
Also I suggest using board review materials to supplement your nursing courses. Back in my day it was workbooks, but now I'm sure its all computerized. You can never start too early preparing for boards and it will also help you ace your nursing exams!
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