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    oldpsychnurse and GM2RN like this.

    Quote from elkpark
    Yes, some people who had had the flu shot have developed GBS. So have people who haven't gotten the flu shot. The fact that people who develop GBS after receiving the flu shot do so at about the same rate as people who haven't had the flu shot suggests strongly that the flu shot does not increase your risk (let alone, God help us all, "cause" GBS, as you state). People claim all kinds of reactions to vaccinations to the US vaccine compensations board -- just as people claim all kinds of side effects to other kinds of medications. The fact that someone experienced a health problem after receiving a vaccination or taking other kinds of medication does not, by itself, in the absence of some kind of pattern among lots of people over time, mean that there is a causal relationship between the vaccine or medication and the negative outcome. It really hard to imagine that you are an actual nurse and can't understand this stuff. Did you manage to get through school without any study of infectious disease or statistics??
    If there is not a risk than why do they actually give a disclaimer presenting the rare risk of GB in the pamphlet when you are getting your flu shot? I don't remember for sure, but I do think they even mentioned the vaccine compensation board in the pamphlet from last year. Also they always used to give the flu vaccine without any written acknowledgement of possible side effects to the patients, but now every patient gets a handout mentioning possible side effects from the common and minor to the rare and the serious.

    To those that aren't forced to receive the flu vaccines it is making the rounds and being promoted so it may be soon coming to you. Before I was aware of the risk of GB I had no concern about the flu shot, but after learning of it and witnessing first hand bad cases of GB and seeing patients who were permanently harmed from it I don't want the vaccine. Many of my fellow coworkers feel the same way, but most are not independently wealthy that they can quit or retire. All the healthcare systems where I live mandate the flu vaccine. While most who get GB will recover, it can be a long recovery of 6 months to a year and some do not recover, others recover somewhat but not fully.

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    Quote from elkpark
    And the rate is no higher among those who have received the flu vaccine than it is among those who haven't had the vaccine. There was one year, 1976, that there actually was a problem with the flu shot and GBS (which was admittedly tragic), and, although there has never been a connection with the flu shot any other year, some people are still maintaining the myth that there is an ongoing risk.
    It is not a myth or there wouldn't be a payouts from the govt vaccine compensation board. Which in itself is a total crock of **** because the govt has given the pharmaceutical companies blanket immunity from any adverse reactions to their vaccines. Injured parties have no recourse to sue for compensation and govt board is woefully inadequate. I believe however this is once again unique to America while other countries such as in Europe still allow injured parties to sue for cause!

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    Quote from VANurse2010
    The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

    The CDC itself warns that the flu vaccine can cause guillain barre along with other side effects. That is a fact! If you are the unlucky one it happens to say goodbye to your career and more importantly to the life you knew! You will probably end up disabled, perhaps even to the point of spending the rest of your life in a nursing home! Your only recourse is the govt vaccine compensation board which is very stingy with compensation and takes years to get!

    As to those that claim the flu vaccine saves the day, the reality is many times its ineffective. I believe last year it was only about 20%! While the actual efficacy varies, the serious side effects are real!

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    Quote from Rose_Queen
    I really dislike the use of the word forced. Nobody is going to run up and jam a needle into you or tie a mask on your face. It is simply a condition of employment, which the employer has the right to both set upon hire and change as change is deemed necessary. If you choose not to meet the conditions of employment by either not getting the vaccine or not wearing the mask, then you no longer meet the criteria for continued employment. You can still make the choice to refuse the vaccine and refuse the mask. The employer has the right to provide consequences for it.
    Welcome to 1984! George Orwellian healthcare!

    I believe the corporate overlords are overreaching re mandated vaccines as well as many other ways to gain control over their workers to keep them in line and maximize profit at all costs so the suits can get their bonuses on the fast track! Just my jaundiced opinion from working in this field over the years!

    The real reason for all the mandation of flu vaccines is all about money, they get more govt reimbursement if they can hit 90% vaccination target!

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    Count yourself lucky, where I work you don't have a choice. You have to get the shot or be fired. The only exception is if you can prove you had guillain barre or an anaphylactic reaction. A committee then decides whether to accept your Dr's excuse or you lose your job. And if you are accepted you have to wear a mask at all times for the entire flu season!

    Of course many people will tell you a flu shot is like taking vitamins, safe for everyone; and downplay the risks of paralysis and tell you it's your moral duty to get the flu shot. Funny how so many fellow health care workers are concerned about the various sundry duties a person must due to be a proper upstanding nurse! Don't you know you have to give up the right over your own body and what you put in it for this noble job!

    I've taken care of several people with guillain barre from a flu shot, if it's so rare why have I seen it so often? FYI if you are older than 50 your risks are higher! Also Bells Palsy is linked to the flu shot as well, not as serious, but certainly physically upsetting!

    That said many on here will post that you are ignorant and not a good nurse if you are against the flu shot or simply want to have the choice of what you put into your body. You will not find a sympathetic audience here on this issue, sad to say!

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    Nurse Leigh, Oemgee, Ruby Vee, and 3 others like this.

    Quote from Conqueror+
    Sorry, I did not see this before I posted. There is a difference between someone who has failed in the past and is now successful and someone who has never done well and only has excuses. How can you really trust their advice?
    Your comments are stupid because how would you know the person's health history just by looking at them. You would only know if they were thin or fat or somewhere in between. Nurses are working in a hospital over medical or surgical problems not a fat farm or diet camp. We are not where you go to lose weight like weight watches or nutri system. We are where patients go when they are having a serious health crisis and need a medical tune up, usually with meds and surgical procedures. Weight is the least of their problems at the moment and harping on patients about their weight won't fix their immediate life threatening problems they face. I work on stabilizing patients not offering weight loss advice. I will leave that to the dieticians!

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    Oemgee, Here.I.Stand, joanna73, and 2 others like this.

    Quote from RunnerNurse09
    I agree no one should be shamed for their weight, however, as healthcare professionals, we should try to incorporate healthy habits into our lives. I remember reading before about how even running 10 minutes several days a week can be beneficial cardiovascular wise. Saying u don't have 10 minutes to spare is pure bull. And you don't get to be 5 feet, 250 lbs because u have a thyroid issue. That is bull too. Most people have food addictions. Google some of the blogs or pages of triathletes and runners who work full time and have a family. They still get it done.
    I think part of the problem is judgement of others re weight, this is common both in our society and especially by the young and the thin who have never had a weight problem so they have no clue what it is like. The sad truth is they are in the minority and the majority of the population is overweight and obese! They are active and thin so why isn't everybody else just like them. Some people do lose weight when they exercise but others remain overweight, some even remain obese even exercising an hour plus a day. Sure they will have more tone and fit but exercise doesn't automatically equal weight loss at least not to normal weight. Even the Extreme Loser's have had problem keeping the weight off and studies now show their metabolism has been permanently damaged by their weight loss. The real reason they talk about losing 10% of your body weight as a goal is because most people can't lose much more and if they do they regain it back. The most successful weight loss is gastric bypass and even that doesn't always work permanently.

    As to running, for an obese person to run they will be damaging their joints and may end up needing early joint replacement. Walking or swim aerobics and weight lifting is more appropriate. Sad to say I took care of a 50 something person who was going on their third knee replacement who was overweight but not obese and had a habit of running that wrecked said knee and then problems with the knee replacement malfunctioning this in a span of maybe 5 years. The patient was told if the third knee replacement didn't work they might lose the leg. Now around that time the news was mentioning a high premature failure rate of certain brands of knee replacements, was that the real culprit? Who knows, plus who has control over what brand of joint replacement is given to you?

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    To KCMnurse do you know who complained against you a patient/family or your previous employer? Was your employer mad at you for leaving?

    How much did it cost for all the legal fees? If you don't mind letting us know, just to have a ball park of what getting a lawyer costs if we're ever in such a situation?

    I know the BON is not our friend, thankfully through the grace of God I've never had to deal with them.

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    adebola, Orphan RN, Jules A, and 1 other like this.

    I'm a shy person so don't volunteer, but do give to charities on a regular basis that support causes I believe in. I give a percentage of my income, ideally I'd tithe but have too many bills at this time. There are so many worthy charities and needs that it is hard for me to say no. I wish I could do more. But I don't give to every charity and I check to make sure they are trustworthy first by checking out Charity Navigator.

    I imagine when I'm retired I will probably do actual volunteer work. While I work full time now, the 12 hour shifts don't leave a lot of time to volunteer. I love all animals and wish I had a pet, love dogs especially, but feel it would be unfair to have one with my current work situation, plus my sleep is messed up working nights. I hope to have a pet when I retire and can get back to a normal life and sleep pattern. In the meantime, I enjoy the pets of my family, friends and neighbors.

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    Garden,RN likes this.

    [QUOTE=Buyer beware;9135725]OP:

    This can best be done by the hospital lobby in each state. QUOTE]


    The hospital lobby is the last one that would lobby for safe staffing ratios, that would interfere with their need to maximize profit sad to say!

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    Horseshoe and BeenThere2012 like this.

    Quote from Horseshoe
    Would knowingly, purposefully, and chronically under staffing units such that the nurse to patient ratios are at all time highs (and thus increasing the chances of med errors or other problems) be considered to be "bad process"? Because I'm thinking that is one of the major contributing factors to the mistakes that are made in hospitals. And while not "intentional" on the part of the nurses and ancillary staff, it most certainly seems "intentional" on the part of the powers that be. Increasing caregiver to patient ratios is done to boost the bottom line, with no thought whatsoever of the consequences on the caregivers themselves, and ultimately, on patient safety.

    As someone whose worked in the front lines for over 20 years I can't like this statement enough! I've been watching working conditions and staffing ratios deteriorate while patient acuity has increased tremendously! This will not end well! It's time to fight for safe staffing ratios like CA has!

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    Quote from NuGuyNurse2b
    It's a shame what the media has done to him. if you listened to his speech, which you probably don't, you'll recognize that that is far from the truth.
    His vulgar comments about women are legendary and lead to the bitter feud between him and Megyn Kelly! And all his speeches about supporting workers in America are belied by the way he cheated and ripped off the workers and small businesses doing work for his many Trump companies! I'm glad his illegal and dirty deeds are being made public. How many people are going to blindly vote for him because he is a star, rich, was on Celebrity Apprentice. He hasn't even put forth any real policies and the few times he speaks up for something he tends to waffle and change his mind depending on who his audience is! Heck I heard he even wanted to change his VP at the last minute! Not to mention he is the first Presidential candidate to refuse to release his taxes and now there are rumors of financial ties with Russia and possibly indebtedness to them! Then he asks the Russians to hack Hillary's emails! He isn't fit to be President!

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    Hopefully Hillary has changed her views on nurses. Counting on a President to support nurses is foolhardy, the govt pays for medicare and medicaid and want to cut costs and we are viewed as part of the costs. It will take unionization like the National Nurse United to support nurses and legislators at the state level seem to be more sympathetic to safe staffing ratios etc.

    I view the political process with a very jaundiced eye, and look at the upcoming Presidential race as the lesser of the two evils. I cannot stomach Trump, he is a national disgrace and a very dangerous character should he have his hands on the nuclear codes! While I'm not pro Hillary, I feel there is no contest that she is the most highly qualified candidate to be President who would have her husband' input who is on good terms with Republicans like the Bush's in their philanthropic pursuits. There is no contest Trump a joker who has no experience, no skills just a reality star egomaniac or Hillary Clinton who has a lifetime of political service both domestic and international! I fear for our country if Trump becomes President!

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    Ladyscrubs and beckysue920 like this.

    Quote from HouTx
    Er Um, actually we DO diagnose. We don't make medical diagnoses, we make nursing diagnoses. That's actually the core of nursing practice and clinical reasoning.
    Well we don't officially do medical diagnoses, but in practical reality we do it all the time in nursing practice when we analyze our patients symptoms and need to call the Dr re a change in status or need for new treatment! We just don't get credit for it!


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