brandy1017 26,790 Views
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You hit the nail on the head. The average salary for RN's is around $65,000. Sure with overtime you could make a lot more, but who wants to work their life away! Other than the coasts where cost of living is insane I don't know of RN's making $100,000 without doing lots of overtime or agency/pool where they float from place to place with no guarantee of steady hours.
Some FNP's may make that but I read on here all the time FNP being offered $70,000-80,000 starting and then may have to pay for their benefits insurance and own retirement, unless they work for a hospital organization.
I wonder if you are overly sensitive and misreading the nurses. I haven't ever witnessed what you are describing. We appreciate the RT's and know they too are overworked and can't be in two places at once. If the nurses are truly as you describe I would think then they are testing you as you said you are new, but I would be surprised if they were really discounting you. I'm not an ICU nurse, although I have worked with vents and inline suctioning.
I hope things get better for you and good luck on your next career goal. Don't write off all nurses, we all need to work together as a team.
I totally understand how an anxious person's mood can rub off on you and make you feel anxious. Is your stress because you don't know the right answer to the questions or just feeling overworked and overwhelmed by the call volume? I'm experienced know what to do but feel anxious and overwhelmed at times. I finally talked to my Dr and was given xanax. It has really helped me stay calm, function better and also helped ease my anger and frustration. Part of me feels weak for needing meds, but the other part of me wished I had asked for something years ago because I feel so much better and it makes work more manageable. I don't have to dread it. I don't take it every day and only take it if I feel I need it. I've read klonopin may be a better choice than xanax because it works slower and lasts longer.
So far we only have our first name and RN on our badges, but a local competitor has both first and last names on their badges which I'm glad we don't do. Would be worried about a stalker situation. So far only recent new grads have had to sign a contract to get their BSN or lose their job after three years. They need to do this while working full time. Many are already in lots of student loan debt from either expensive private colleges or getting an ADN as a second degree after getting a prior Bachelors in another field. I feel for them. Admin hasn't tried to force other RN's to get a BSN, although I have heard this has happened in some places around the country.
There are plenty of jobs out there where you have to deal with screaming, entitled children and their helicopter parents who think the teachers should be teaching their offspring things like manners and values that the parents should have been instilling all along. There are plenty of jobs out there where you have to work outside in the sun and heat, in the snow, in the rain and even in a swamp full of mud and insects. (DH worked construction and the oil fields before becoming a nurse.). There are plenty of jobs out there where you work for peanuts and still have to deal with the general public and all that entails. There are plenty of jobs out there that require a lot more (expensive) education and leave you with an even larger pile of student loans to pay off. There are plenty of jobs out there that require being away from home five nights a week (or more) and make family life impossible. There are plenty of jobs out there that require being deployed to a desert for months or years at a time, where you risk your life every minute of every day. There are plenty of jobs out there that require you to risk your life every minute of every shift. There are plenty of jobs out there, and each and every one of them has something negative about it. Bodily fluids, sick people and demanding patients (and visitors) is a negative, but it's not nearly as negative to me as being shot at, deployed, working outside in all weather or being away from home for long periods of time.
I don't think nursing is overglamourized. Medicine is, being a lawyer or a police officer is, being a "fixer" is. I don't think that nursing is glamorized enough. Being a nurse doesn't make one an angel, but being a good nurse makes one a person who is good at a tough job.
In response to the OP that being a nurse is just a robot following Dr's orders. I disagree it is not the Dr that is the problem it is the computer big brother micromanaging everything you do, questioning the meds you give, demanding excessive documentation just because you can.
I went into nursing to both help others and have a "feel good" career, while making a living wage. The reality is disheartening, excessive stress combined with micromanagement,short staffing and inadequate equipment just so the corporate healthcare suits can get their bonuses and excessive salaries at our expense! It is a real letdown!
I feel sorry for the new nurses that never knew what it was like when you actually had time to care for your patients and had a benevolent employer where profit didn't rule. I miss the good old days!
I haven't heard of a person being fired for a work injury per se, but there is usually a limited amount of time they hold your job before they let you go if you aren't able to return to your current job. Maybe some places help an injured person get an easier desk job, but that is not the experience I've seen where I work. Since it hasn't happened to me I wasn't paying attention to how many months a person was on light duty before their job was eliminated. I don't know if it's 3 months as in FMLA or 6 months or if it depends on what state you live in.
No I value my sleep too much! Not to mention I'm not a workaholic, plus I'd never want to be in as much debt as it would take to be a Dr! And now even the doctors are as henpecked as we are with administration, not to mention patient satisfaction ratings. No Thanks!
Yes, some people who had had the flu shot have developed GBS. So have people who haven't gotten the flu shot. The fact that people who develop GBS after receiving the flu shot do so at about the same rate as people who haven't had the flu shot suggests strongly that the flu shot does not increase your risk (let alone, God help us all, "cause" GBS, as you state). People claim all kinds of reactions to vaccinations to the US vaccine compensations board -- just as people claim all kinds of side effects to other kinds of medications. The fact that someone experienced a health problem after receiving a vaccination or taking other kinds of medication does not, by itself, in the absence of some kind of pattern among lots of people over time, mean that there is a causal relationship between the vaccine or medication and the negative outcome. It really hard to imagine that you are an actual nurse and can't understand this stuff. Did you manage to get through school without any study of infectious disease or statistics??
And the rate is no higher among those who have received the flu vaccine than it is among those who haven't had the vaccine. There was one year, 1976, that there actually was a problem with the flu shot and GBS (which was admittedly tragic), and, although there has never been a connection with the flu shot any other year, some people are still maintaining the myth that there is an ongoing risk.
The plural of anecdote is not evidence.
I really dislike the use of the word forced. Nobody is going to run up and jam a needle into you or tie a mask on your face. It is simply a condition of employment, which the employer has the right to both set upon hire and change as change is deemed necessary. If you choose not to meet the conditions of employment by either not getting the vaccine or not wearing the mask, then you no longer meet the criteria for continued employment. You can still make the choice to refuse the vaccine and refuse the mask. The employer has the right to provide consequences for it.
My understanding is that the OP came to a nursing forum, not a business forum. Many of us are successful, seasoned nurses and understand the factors that go into a satisfactory workplace.
Even if some of us are overweight.
Count yourself lucky, where I work you don't have a choice. You have to get the shot or be fired. The only exception is if you can prove you had guillain barre or an anaphylactic reaction. A committee then decides whether to accept your Dr's excuse or you lose your job. And if you are accepted you have to wear a mask at all times for the entire flu season!
Of course many people will tell you a flu shot is like taking vitamins, safe for everyone; and downplay the risks of paralysis and tell you it's your moral duty to get the flu shot. Funny how so many fellow health care workers are concerned about the various sundry duties a person must due to be a proper upstanding nurse! Don't you know you have to give up the right over your own body and what you put in it for this noble job!
I've taken care of several people with guillain barre from a flu shot, if it's so rare why have I seen it so often? FYI if you are older than 50 your risks are higher! Also Bells Palsy is linked to the flu shot as well, not as serious, but certainly physically upsetting!
That said many on here will post that you are ignorant and not a good nurse if you are against the flu shot or simply want to have the choice of what you put into your body. You will not find a sympathetic audience here on this issue, sad to say!
Sorry, I did not see this before I posted. There is a difference between someone who has failed in the past and is now successful and someone who has never done well and only has excuses. How can you really trust their advice?
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