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  • Nov 18

    I agree that it can be both a calling and a job.
    It's fine if someone doesn't want to refer to nursing as their calling, but I think there has to be some other reason to pursue nursing other than having "a good job." There are plenty of jobs out there where you don't have to deal with sick people, bodily fluids, demanding patients and even being assaulted, all while expected to deal with it all. I feel that there is a reason why nurses are willing to put up with some of that, and other people who have chosen not to pursue nursing, choose not to. You have to care about others, to a certain extent, to really do the job well and to be the nurses your patients want.

    At the same time, nursing is possibly over glamorized at times, or put on an undeserved pedestal. Yes, it is a very important job, and we have people's lives on our hands. At the same time, it is not the only important profession out there. Other people besides nurses are needed, so if someone decides to no longer be a nurse, they shouldn't feel bad about themselves. After all, like the OP said, being a nurse doesn't make someone an angel. It's possible to be a good person and not be a nurse, and vice versa.

  • Nov 18

    I would call it neither "a calling", nor "just a job" for most nurses.

    I see it as a profession, or at least a highly skilled trade.

  • Nov 17

    Quote from Southgirl78
    I was not notified of this in advance. Is it ok/legal to revoke a scheduled bonus shift and give it to someone willing to work for less money?!
    Yes ...but they may find that people become unwilling to "bite" when offered incentives if they're frequently taken back.
    I used to work a day of overtime here and there, even though it was last minute and inconvenient. Then later in the week, I'd get my regular shift canceled at the last minute and lose that overtime as a result. I eventually stopped "helping out" and just stuck with my regularly scheduled shifts. Why allow my schedule to be so erratic with no reward when it could be predictable, instead?

  • Nov 5

    Quote from Julius Seizure
    I can see how someone might construe the series of events as shadiness on your part, but I don't think that was your intent. Honestly, I probably wouldn't have handled things any better than you have - and I wouldn't have known that I was doing it wrong. Do you have FMLA? I don't even know if you need FMLA when you are on workers comp. I'm just thinking about job protection. Ugh. Sorry, I dont have any advice. I just wanted to say that I would have done much of the same things that you did - in hindsight, I guess the communication could be better (on all parts), but I totally get how you ended up where you did. Good luck, I hope everything works out.
    Your name is clever and I like it xD.

    With that out of the way, I did file for FMLA at the direction of my employer. Apparently there was a 2 week window that I almost missed because I wasn't even notified that I needed to do it until a week in, and there was a portion to be filled out by the doctor. But once I figured out the clock was ticking, I got it done and got it in.

    I really appreciate the validation. I'm completely new to all of this. Hindsight being 20/20, I won't be making the same mistakes going forward. I just need to go see a lawyer and get it all out on the table already. I wouldn't be so anxious about all of this if I had any kind of assurance that they weren't allowed to fire me because it was taking me a while to get better.

  • Nov 5

    Quote from Tenebrae
    I would have happily worked three hours a day in those first two weeks

    Your communication does not seem to have been particularly proactive
    I did happily work it once I assumed it was what she wanted. I don't want to say "knew" because really, I still have no idea. She didn't choose to respond to me. All I'm pointing out is that I don't get why she or anybody else is upset that I tried to group the days better. If she had clearly said, "I want this work done on this schedule," I'd have followed it to a T. Give me a little credit; when I did try to communicate, I got nothing in return.

    I have been very proactive in communications with my med-surg manager and the risk manager. The ER manager acted like she really didn't care to hear about it as long as I got the work done, so I treated it that way until she indicated otherwise, and then communicated very clearly in writing about everything from there on out. Not talking to the CC manager sooner was a mistake, but I do have it in writing from the medsurg NM that she would be talking to the CC NM about it.

    I know I'm not the world everybody else revolves around, but if somebody says they're going to do something, they should do it. I shouldn't have to be chasing all three of these nurse managers around to get them to follow through with what they'd said they would do, but that's what's happened. The medsurg NM said she'd talk to the CC NM; didn't happen. The CC NM said she'd call me back within 2 days; didn't happen. The ER NM said I could pick my own schedule and she was only an email away if I needed anything; didn't happen.

    I could have been better with communication. That's fair enough. I own up to that mistake. But these nurse managers all could have been better as well. This is not entirely on me.

  • Nov 5

    A sprinkling of thoughts...

    I'm not sure why people are reacting so negatively, but I suppose my interpretation is colored by my own experience. I was injured lifting a patient, tried to keep working, it got severe and I needed time off and PT. The doctor decided it was a minor injury and sent me back to work, then when I finally made enough noise for a second opinion, that doc declared that I had a permanent impairment, which meant my employer could stop paying for medical treatment. I completely understand trying to get back to a little more work to preserve your transfer to another unit.

    Disability insurance does not cover worker's comp claims until after the worker's comp case is closed. That will happen when you are either fully recovered or they get someone to claim you are as recovered as you will ever be.

    This is, of course, not legal advice, just things I have learned. When doc #2 declared my lifting restrictions were permanent, I was dismissed from my position and not aided with placement for weeks. This was illegal. This is one of my posts regarding that experience. In the last two replies, I included three DoL/EEOC/ADA links and quotes that helped because they directly applied to my situation.

    Read those links. There is a crap ton of information, and you may find things helpful that did not apply to me.

    I regret not finding an attorney. I tried several, but the one I fully consulted with tried to pull shady stuff and I didn't have the oomph or the money to throw away on a lawyer when I was trying to recover (and thought things would be substantially less complicated than they have become). Find an attorney. The hospital doesn't care about you except to the extent you benefit them. Do what you need to to maintain workers comp coverage and employment, but don't count on them to put you in a higher acuity unit when they may now view you as broken.

    Save all your injury-related correspondence with hospital staff. E-mails are permanent, objective, verifiable evidence if this situation keeps going downhill. Print everything out and keep it in one place. Find an attorney.

  • Oct 31

    Putting blue dye in the tube feeds so you would know if you were suctioning food from the lungs, also the green poop that it gave.

    Painting decubs with betadine and using a blow dryer to dry it on.

    Mixing your own 20 of K into your IV bottles, and putting a strip of tape down the side of the glass so you could make sure you weren't ahead or behind on your hourly rates.

    Boards only offered twice a year, 5 separate exams (OB, psych, medical, etc.), took two days, had to have your diploma in hand to go into the exam hall; no make up until 6 months later, waited for your results in the mail for at least 6 weeks. If you didn't pass, couldn't work as a grad nurse, which means you promptly lost your job. My head nurse was waiting on the floor for me and my (passing!) letter the next day, as I got off the elevator.

  • Oct 31

    Rotating tourniquets for pulmonary edema.

    Endless iced saline lavage for ugi bleeds.

    Paraldehyde given rectally for DTs - with a glass syringe because it melted the plastic ones.

    Using those Byrd respirators to give IPPB treatments: kind of a bipap with meds added - including mucomyst (pew!).

    q2hr sippy diet feedings.

    Blenderised tube feedings: real food run thru a blender like baby food.

  • Oct 31

    So, I really need a fun thread right now. We've done similar things before and it's always fun.
    so, things Crusty Old Bats(COB) remember that new nurses today will not.

    1. The clunk your uniform makes when you drop it in the laundry hamper and you realize you came home with the narcotic keys.

    2. The splat the over full paper chart makes when you drop it on the floor. Papers everywhere. 15 mins getting everything back together.

    3. The smell of the smoking lounge .

    4. Nurse and Docs smoking at the Nsg Station.

    5. Trying to match the colour of the urine in the test tube to determine the sugar level.
    +1? +2? Which one?

    OK my fellow COBs. Jump in!

  • Oct 31

    I tell them, no, actually, I don't wish I were a doctor. One: I don't want to rack up a 250-500K dollar debt for school that will amount to more than the mortgage on an Average American home and follow me for years to come. Two: I don't want to work 80-100hours/week or more as a resident, for years, to learn my specialty. Three: I wanted to be a NURSE and being so does not make me less, but a person with different goals and skillset. Four: I don't envy their "status" or education. I am quite happy with my career choice and the ability to leave work at work once I go. I like spending lots of time with my family. Doctors frequently can't do either of those two things.

    So no, I really don't wish I were a doctor. I am proud to be a nurse.

  • Oct 21

    Job-hopping (within reason) is what results in the best pay increases. Nurses who stay at the same job for 20 or 30 years seem to be the lowest paid- especially when experience is factored in.

  • Oct 21

    Sadly that is what loyalty will get you, zip, nada, nothing, squat. And some wonder why "Milennials" don't have "loyalty". Prime example here. Can't blame them. You deserve better; you won't get it where you work. It sucks. The Boomers tend to be loyal and stay a long time in one spot, extremely reliable and steady. But the rewards in return for all these qualities are few and far between.

    As for me? This is one X-er (almost Boomer) who will always have her eye out for the better opportunity, one that suits me and my needs, first.

  • Sep 28

    It never ceases to amaze me that hospital administrators believe nurses have magical abilities... that enable them to live on much less income than normal people. Maybe they think we can change alcohol wipes to hard currency?? Or pay for our groceries with back rubs??

    I realize I'm going against the grain here, but I think OP should be looking for a more stable gig that will enable him to provide for his family. If he wanted a part-time or PRN job, he would have looked for one in the first place, right?

  • Sep 26

    ......there are many of us here in this group who have experienced ageism in nursing and you will not find another nursing job with benefits. Something does need to be done....but hospitals/facilities are VERY GOOD and documenting and it is very hard to PROVE what everyone KNOWS they did. You can file a complaint with the EEOC and at the very least hassle them with an's free. isn't you and your are amongst a very elite group!!!!

  • Sep 24

    Quote from Aliens05
    a post I read from forum member THE COMMUTER really struck me as exaclty how i feel. It stated id rather love my personal life and tolerate my job than tolerate my life and love my job. By this I mean im never going to enjoy work, I mostly enjoy traveling, exploring , cars..etc..(hence money motivated).
    Thanks for paraphrasing one of my posts...

    Personally, the job I currently have has been the least stressful one I've ever had. I am a nurse case manager who works from home. I work for an insurance company.

    Demanding patients, hostile family members, and testy physicians incite feelings of anxiety for me. Being far removed from these entities has been a beautiful experience for me. I plan to ride this wave for as long as possible.

    Nonetheless, several nurses who worked from home hated their jobs. They missed direct patient care and socializing with coworkers, whereas I would not mind if I never touched another bedpan or started another IV line again.