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  • May 27

    Why so many piling on because Modern RN spoke his mind about his negative experiences and feelings about being a nurse. There are so many vent threads on this forum, too numerous to count, about the negatives of nursing. All of sudden everyone and his brother feels the need to come and proclaim their love for nursing, how wonderful it is and how he should just get out! Sounds pretty judgemental to me. Why the hypocropsy! Why are nurses supposed to say they love their job in spite of all the well documented problems we all face or most of us anyway.

    Let's be honest we don't all love nursing, many do it because they need the money and now have student loans to pay back. Many are going into nursing because its one of the few jobs that pay a living and many already have degrees in other fields but are unable to get a decent paying job so go into nursing.

    If I could afford to I would leave nursing. But I am too young to retire and have a mortgage etc and need a job that pays a living wage. People suggest if you are not happy get a different job and they suggest clinic or homecare etc. Maybe that will work for some people, but probably not for the number of burnt out nurses that want a change. I doubt there are enough jobs available especially since many clinics are now using medical assistants instead of LPN's yet alone RN's. Also I don't like the idea of the wear and tear of your car if you go the homecare route and may end up being paid by the visit.

    I honestly would not recommend nursing to anyone either for all the many negatives that I have neither the time or desire to rehash! I understand people are going to continue to go into nursing for the need of a decent paycheck and the hope to make a difference, but the reality is many will be blocked by corporate healthcare's need to grind them into the ground to make an excess profit for the CEO and his buddies at the top!

  • May 27

    Why so many piling on because Modern RN spoke his mind about his negative experiences and feelings about being a nurse. There are so many vent threads on this forum, too numerous to count, about the negatives of nursing. All of sudden everyone and his brother feels the need to come and proclaim their love for nursing, how wonderful it is and how he should just get out! Sounds pretty judgemental to me. Why the hypocropsy! Why are nurses supposed to say they love their job in spite of all the well documented problems we all face or most of us anyway.

    Let's be honest we don't all love nursing, many do it because they need the money and now have student loans to pay back. Many are going into nursing because its one of the few jobs that pay a living and many already have degrees in other fields but are unable to get a decent paying job so go into nursing.

    If I could afford to I would leave nursing. But I am too young to retire and have a mortgage etc and need a job that pays a living wage. People suggest if you are not happy get a different job and they suggest clinic or homecare etc. Maybe that will work for some people, but probably not for the number of burnt out nurses that want a change. I doubt there are enough jobs available especially since many clinics are now using medical assistants instead of LPN's yet alone RN's. Also I don't like the idea of the wear and tear of your car if you go the homecare route and may end up being paid by the visit.

    I honestly would not recommend nursing to anyone either for all the many negatives that I have neither the time or desire to rehash! I understand people are going to continue to go into nursing for the need of a decent paycheck and the hope to make a difference, but the reality is many will be blocked by corporate healthcare's need to grind them into the ground to make an excess profit for the CEO and his buddies at the top!

  • May 27

    You're not too old, but please rethink the private college especially if its very expensive as most are! Student loans are the worst debt out there and I would avoid them like the plague or at least keep them to the absolute minimum. I went to a private ADN program and graduated with $22,000 in debt back in 93 that took me over 20 years to pay off. I was making $13 hour as a new grad, twice my previous pay as a secretary but the student loans really dragged me down and with rent and a car payment took over half my income. I ended up not paying them off in ten years, took deferments a couple times because of health issues and money issues. I hate to think how much money on interest I wasted. For years I regretted the loans and wondered if I was really any better off financially when I had to write the loan check each month. I'm so grateful and relieved to finally be free of them!

  • May 27

    You're not too old, but please rethink the private college especially if its very expensive as most are! Student loans are the worst debt out there and I would avoid them like the plague or at least keep them to the absolute minimum. I went to a private ADN program and graduated with $22,000 in debt back in 93 that took me over 20 years to pay off. I was making $13 hour as a new grad, twice my previous pay as a secretary but the student loans really dragged me down and with rent and a car payment took over half my income. I ended up not paying them off in ten years, took deferments a couple times because of health issues and money issues. I hate to think how much money on interest I wasted. For years I regretted the loans and wondered if I was really any better off financially when I had to write the loan check each month. I'm so grateful and relieved to finally be free of them!

  • May 26

    Why so many piling on because Modern RN spoke his mind about his negative experiences and feelings about being a nurse. There are so many vent threads on this forum, too numerous to count, about the negatives of nursing. All of sudden everyone and his brother feels the need to come and proclaim their love for nursing, how wonderful it is and how he should just get out! Sounds pretty judgemental to me. Why the hypocropsy! Why are nurses supposed to say they love their job in spite of all the well documented problems we all face or most of us anyway.

    Let's be honest we don't all love nursing, many do it because they need the money and now have student loans to pay back. Many are going into nursing because its one of the few jobs that pay a living and many already have degrees in other fields but are unable to get a decent paying job so go into nursing.

    If I could afford to I would leave nursing. But I am too young to retire and have a mortgage etc and need a job that pays a living wage. People suggest if you are not happy get a different job and they suggest clinic or homecare etc. Maybe that will work for some people, but probably not for the number of burnt out nurses that want a change. I doubt there are enough jobs available especially since many clinics are now using medical assistants instead of LPN's yet alone RN's. Also I don't like the idea of the wear and tear of your car if you go the homecare route and may end up being paid by the visit.

    I honestly would not recommend nursing to anyone either for all the many negatives that I have neither the time or desire to rehash! I understand people are going to continue to go into nursing for the need of a decent paycheck and the hope to make a difference, but the reality is many will be blocked by corporate healthcare's need to grind them into the ground to make an excess profit for the CEO and his buddies at the top!

  • May 25

    Because they have the highest patient ratios and some of the sickest and most difficult to deal with patients! They get all the altered mental status, confused, detoxing patients without adequate support staff and ratios that are just too high! Why would someone choose to work with the worst possible staffing ratios in the hospital? I wouldn't!

  • May 19

    Once again a small serving of ice cream is our gift! In years past they have published our names in the newspaper, which upset a coworker who didn't want her stalker ex to know where she worked, another time did an angel campaign asking patients to nominate their nurse "angel". Once even said they had donated to a charity in our names, rather than give us an actual gift! Apparently they thought we make too much money to actually want a cash gift. Bet they got a tax deduction for it though! Oh and they reminded us we are free to purchase some uniform accessories with their logo! LOL

    For what it's worth they used to offer a meal if you work Thanksgiving or Christmas now it's only a coupon for a dessert. Times are tough can't afford a whole meal I guess!

  • May 13

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    I'm so tired of hearing about bullying . . . life is too short to be looking for bullies every where you go. Sounds like the OP got some negative feedback so she quit her job. Not all feedback is positive, and I doubt the new job will be all rainbows and butterflies either. But bullying? Sorry, no. Negative feedback (and it sounds like there was just one incident of it) is not bullying. Not even close.
    I'm not so sure it wasn't bullying. When one nurse and this one in charge takes it upon herself to bad mouth a coworker to the manager and then the mananger can't even remember the details, but tells you to wow them and don't know what to say to improve things, that is not constructive criticism. It may very well be slander. We need to be very careful with what we say about others and how we handle so called weaknesses as one may be destroying someone's reputation. Why not speak to that person and give them the benefit of the doubt. Also was the criticism valid and unbiased or was it meant to tear down and discourage someone. We have one nurse at work that enjoys writing people up and brags about it. She is intensely disliked by everyone and seems to always be finding ways to put others down to make herself seem superior. I've seen bullying and the tactics used to discredit the target such as getting fellow clique members to complain to the manager about the same thing at different times to get the other nurse in trouble.

    We all have different strengths and weaknesses and need to work as a team to help each other care for our patients, not bash someone and imply there is no hope of improvement.

    I wish you luck and happiness with your new job and with grad school!

  • May 10

    Wow that's a sticky spot to be in. I would be reluctant to share it with my current employer, but I don't know if there is a proper protocol and would they find out on their own if you didn't say anything.

    Seems like the BON sends quarterly newsletters that are little more than gossip rags, making sure the big red letter A is seen by all! What constructive purpose is that, other than to intimidate and ostracize the people on the list. I suppose it's meant as a warning, make sure you don't do something wrong and end up on the list or else!

  • May 7

    Quote from nursie_nursie_415
    During my first year as a new grad I made just under $90k working 32hrs/week on the evening shift. My second year I made just under $110k. I live & work in the Bay Area & these types of salaries are why nurses from all over the world are trying to work here. Those out-of-staters who do land jobs here unfortunately do not spend their money in Bay Area communities but instead spend their paychecks in their home towns. California is bankrupt, people! If you want to continue being paid these good salaries, be sure to support your local businesses - these are the people who are our patients/paying clients. I am not against non-Californians being hired in Bay Area hospitals, but it is important to "give back" instead of taking, taking, taking...

    Don't get me wrong - I have so much love for my fellow nurses who fly in from other states regularly for work here in the Bay Area to support their families back home, but my heart aches for my other fellow nurses who can't get jobs. The situation is not helped with all these "nursing schools" pumping our new grads every semester. California, what is happening to us?
    The pay sounds excellent but you're not factoring in the extremely high cost of living, aren't we talking about basic housing starting around 500,000!

  • Apr 8

    If she can't handle the stress in nursing school how is she going to handle the on the job stress? I may be in the minority but nursing school was a piece of cake while being a nurse has been very difficult and stressful from the get go. I've never found nursing easy and over the years different stressors have arisen to take the place of past stressors I overcame. Don't think nursing is really the best job for someone that struggles with anxiety and depression. In fact, it might make someone depressed and anxious if they weren't already! lol

  • Apr 6

    This is a wonderful place to learn and share and commiserate with our struggles. It's been 15 years since I joined. I love being able to learn about what's happening across the country and about the different type of nursing jobs out there. This is just such a great resource! Priceless!

  • Mar 15

    I would write up a cover letter explaining why you delayed getting your license as you were a caregiver that you put your patient or loved one first and want the chance to care for other patients now as a nurse. Also mention you passed Boards on the first try. I would apply for all RN positions, why limit yourself. Sign up for a refresher, but hopefully you will get a job before that is necessary. I would try to network with your college instructors and fellow grads for job leads. When you find openings try to find out the name of the manager/director of that unit and speak to them and send or bring them your resume and cover letter. It will yield better results than just applying to web sites and HR. HR is just a screening dept, it is the manager that makes the final hiring decision, but HR screens out many candidates so if you can reach out to the hiring manager it will improve your chances of getting a job. So apply online or at HR and also speak to the manager if you can. I think that is the best strategy. Dress professional ie in a suit and be personable and enthusiastic. Be prepared to advertise your good qualities and skills, GPA etc and explain that job hunting took the back burner to caring for your loved one. You have proven you are a dependable and loyal caregiver and let them know you will bring that level of care giving to your job.

    Good luck with your job hunting!

  • Mar 13

    Quote from Wise Woman RN
    The comment about the HUC and CNA's being used to report the nurses:


    This was a large part of the scene. CNA's were enlisted, encouraged to report the RN's. Especially the RN's who expected the CNAs to do their jobs... that's another whole story.. There were STELLAR CNA's on my floor.. and there were CNA's that really liked being in the manager's pocket. I really loved my job.. I took the students for the day, I precepted the new nurses, I was one of the resources for the computer, and the docs, after all this time, liked and respected me.. Apparently, they were angered by my termination, as well, but this is considered to be a "nurse issue," so what the docs think about this doesn't matter...

    I said I loved my job, and my patients and most of my co-workers.. but the place, I don't know, hostile environment, elitist... going for Magnet in a big way, and I guess I just didn't fit the mold that the new manager wanted.
    Is it possible you could get a job working for one of the doctors that support you. I remember one nurse that management wanted to get rid of quit and took a job with a doctors office.

  • Mar 13

    Quote from Brain RN
    You must have worked for Banner Healthcare. They use the catch phrase of 'not meeting core values' as a method of firing the older, more experienced nursing staff. They should all be ashamed of themselves! I see this happening so much and it's embarrassing to the profession of nursing! The younger, less expensive and less experienced nurses are being put into positions of power which they have not earned!!! Those of us who have been in the trenches for a long time work every day, wondering if we're going to have a job tomorrow. Worse yet, is the risk to the patients by not having us on the floor. Those young, inexperienced, robotic minds cannot see passed the physician's orders to the patient. They blindly carry them out, not contemplating that there may be an error. Those of us who manage to remain below the radar and above the firing line do whatever we can to keep ourselves looking young, just to hang onto our jobs. Guess the old phrase of 'nurses eating their young' doesn't apply anymore. Now, it's 'nurses eating their elders'. God bless you and I hope you find something soon. Just a suggestion; ever thought of working as a nurse consultant?

    I've seen this already at a hospital system that is filled with young newbies and next to no older nurses. I had a family member there and the nurses wouldn't dream of questioning a doctor's orders or should I say lack of care. They were like young stepford nurses only following doctors orders and had no clue or desire to be a true patient advocate. My family member was very anemic and the doctor wouldn't give her a transfusion and the nurses just refused to speak up about this and advocate for a blood transfusion. Then when I spoke up to the attending covering that weekend one nasty young nurse in particular stood there smirking at me when he refused to give her a transfusion and claimed the labs weren't in and begged off. Of course, I later found out the labs had been there for hours! This nasty nurse felt so powerful that the doctor refused to give my poor loved one the blood she desparately needed to be stronger and able to breathe. It was a comfort measure. How someone can be so cold and unfeeling about the suffering of a patient. Frankly she was the last person who should be a nurse. We don't need cold unfeeling robot stepford nurses, most our just afraid or in awe of the doctors or lack knowledge to advocate, but she purposely tried to sabotage my family member getting the right treatmeat. Finally another specialist stepped in and gave her the needed blood transfusion, but I think it is sad that the new nurses are too busy trying to please everybody then to make waves when necessary as a patient advocate.

    I know not everyone is like this but the reason hospitals prefer the young new nurses is low pay and they feel they are more moldable to their stepford nurse customer service model and they have no clue how understaffed and overworked they are as they don't know how things used to be!


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