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  • Mar 15

    I would write up a cover letter explaining why you delayed getting your license as you were a caregiver that you put your patient or loved one first and want the chance to care for other patients now as a nurse. Also mention you passed Boards on the first try. I would apply for all RN positions, why limit yourself. Sign up for a refresher, but hopefully you will get a job before that is necessary. I would try to network with your college instructors and fellow grads for job leads. When you find openings try to find out the name of the manager/director of that unit and speak to them and send or bring them your resume and cover letter. It will yield better results than just applying to web sites and HR. HR is just a screening dept, it is the manager that makes the final hiring decision, but HR screens out many candidates so if you can reach out to the hiring manager it will improve your chances of getting a job. So apply online or at HR and also speak to the manager if you can. I think that is the best strategy. Dress professional ie in a suit and be personable and enthusiastic. Be prepared to advertise your good qualities and skills, GPA etc and explain that job hunting took the back burner to caring for your loved one. You have proven you are a dependable and loyal caregiver and let them know you will bring that level of care giving to your job.

    Good luck with your job hunting!

  • Mar 13

    Quote from Wise Woman RN
    The comment about the HUC and CNA's being used to report the nurses:


    This was a large part of the scene. CNA's were enlisted, encouraged to report the RN's. Especially the RN's who expected the CNAs to do their jobs... that's another whole story.. There were STELLAR CNA's on my floor.. and there were CNA's that really liked being in the manager's pocket. I really loved my job.. I took the students for the day, I precepted the new nurses, I was one of the resources for the computer, and the docs, after all this time, liked and respected me.. Apparently, they were angered by my termination, as well, but this is considered to be a "nurse issue," so what the docs think about this doesn't matter...

    I said I loved my job, and my patients and most of my co-workers.. but the place, I don't know, hostile environment, elitist... going for Magnet in a big way, and I guess I just didn't fit the mold that the new manager wanted.
    Is it possible you could get a job working for one of the doctors that support you. I remember one nurse that management wanted to get rid of quit and took a job with a doctors office.

  • Mar 13

    Quote from Brain RN
    You must have worked for Banner Healthcare. They use the catch phrase of 'not meeting core values' as a method of firing the older, more experienced nursing staff. They should all be ashamed of themselves! I see this happening so much and it's embarrassing to the profession of nursing! The younger, less expensive and less experienced nurses are being put into positions of power which they have not earned!!! Those of us who have been in the trenches for a long time work every day, wondering if we're going to have a job tomorrow. Worse yet, is the risk to the patients by not having us on the floor. Those young, inexperienced, robotic minds cannot see passed the physician's orders to the patient. They blindly carry them out, not contemplating that there may be an error. Those of us who manage to remain below the radar and above the firing line do whatever we can to keep ourselves looking young, just to hang onto our jobs. Guess the old phrase of 'nurses eating their young' doesn't apply anymore. Now, it's 'nurses eating their elders'. God bless you and I hope you find something soon. Just a suggestion; ever thought of working as a nurse consultant?

    I've seen this already at a hospital system that is filled with young newbies and next to no older nurses. I had a family member there and the nurses wouldn't dream of questioning a doctor's orders or should I say lack of care. They were like young stepford nurses only following doctors orders and had no clue or desire to be a true patient advocate. My family member was very anemic and the doctor wouldn't give her a transfusion and the nurses just refused to speak up about this and advocate for a blood transfusion. Then when I spoke up to the attending covering that weekend one nasty young nurse in particular stood there smirking at me when he refused to give her a transfusion and claimed the labs weren't in and begged off. Of course, I later found out the labs had been there for hours! This nasty nurse felt so powerful that the doctor refused to give my poor loved one the blood she desparately needed to be stronger and able to breathe. It was a comfort measure. How someone can be so cold and unfeeling about the suffering of a patient. Frankly she was the last person who should be a nurse. We don't need cold unfeeling robot stepford nurses, most our just afraid or in awe of the doctors or lack knowledge to advocate, but she purposely tried to sabotage my family member getting the right treatmeat. Finally another specialist stepped in and gave her the needed blood transfusion, but I think it is sad that the new nurses are too busy trying to please everybody then to make waves when necessary as a patient advocate.

    I know not everyone is like this but the reason hospitals prefer the young new nurses is low pay and they feel they are more moldable to their stepford nurse customer service model and they have no clue how understaffed and overworked they are as they don't know how things used to be!

  • Mar 4

    Name calling, calling the charge nurse a "cow" sounds like you have an attitude problem and are immature and unprofessional. Maybe the problem is you. Yes tele is stressful and not for everyone, but since you plan to go back to school anyway you can always quit now and let those student loans rack up. Good luck getting a job without experience!

  • Feb 28

    If you've come this far and made the financial commitment to graduate with an FNP, don't stop now. At least take the boards. You haven't even tried to get a job yet! There was a reason you decided to do this, I'm assuming it was a combination of burnout and frustation with floor nursing and a desire for a better job with real autonomy and better working conditions.

    You've got nothing to lose in finishing up and passing boards and then you have options. Sure you can stay doing what you're doing, but at least you have the option to try something new. Coworkers I know have networked to get jobs working for doctors, some are working for hospital systems in clinics or ER's. One person just told all the doctors she was going to be graduating soon and would they like to hire her and one doctor did hire her part-time while she finished her NP, giving her the freedom to quit the hospital job and no more mandatory overtime and all the problems that go along with hospital nursing!

    You are so lucky that you have come so far, don't quit before you begin! Remind yourself why you pursued this in the first place, those same reasons and desires will still be there no matter what you decide. Many nurses are looking for a way out from the hospital grind, mistreatment and physical danger of bedside nursing wanting to use there brain and not their body! Wanting to be treated as professionals with respect and fair working conditions and that is a rare find in bedside nursing.

    I hope you reconsider, graduate and pass your boards. Then think about the type of NP you want to be and start networking with doctors and nurses where you'd like to work. Use word of mouth and even send a letter with your resume out to doctors you'd like to work for. You have some info on the range of salaries and can use that as negotiating power to try to get the best salary possible, but even if the salary isn't ideal consider the chance to do something safer, less stressful and more enjoyable. Remember once you have experience you can always move on and negotiate a better salary. You always have the option of floor nursing as well, but I think it's better to keep your options open for maximum flexibility.

  • Feb 28

    es it's hard on your hands, especially in winter. But it's even harder on your back, shoulders, body and your mental health! It is very stressful and can be anxiety provoking and overwhelming at times! If you are concerned about how your hands are going to hack it, I don't think you are cut out for nursing. That is such a little thing among all the many other negatives and at least it is treatable with lotions. Don't take this personally, because truthfully I think very few people can work as floor nurses and still preserve their sanity and their backs. I don't recommend it to anybody!

    We are continuously short staffed, overworked, pressured to pick up overtime because they refuse to hire enough nurses, which leads to even more turnover and more pressure on the few remaining! My family doesn't understand why I don't work overtime, they have no clue what it's like. Honestly I feel I have PTSD from all I've dealt with and been thru as a nurse over the years. I used to work overtime, but that was 15 years ago when I was younger in my thirties. Also the patients were easier to deal with back then, most spoke english, it was rare to have a morbidly obese patient and now it is practically a daily occurence of 300-500 pounds and throw in the foley free movement and you have a recipe for disaster and injury! Also many more psyche patients, dementia, alcohol drug withdrawal etc. There is just no way I can bring myself to work overtime and I'm just saving all my money so I can make it to an early retirement. Aside from the increased patient acuity corporate healthcare admin just keeps cutting our resources, raising our staffing ratios. I honestly don't know why anybody would want to be a nurse and I don't recommend it!

  • Feb 13

    Thank you! It's a vindication for all of us ADN's out there doing the same job as a BSN. If the hospitals really want BSN's let them pay for them ie full tuition reimbursement, not a piddly $2,000 year!

  • Jan 24

    I admit I have called off due to no sleep myself. I know others who work with no sleep or get only 3-4 hours and come to work. I'm not one of them. I don't feel that is safe. I've read someone with lack of sleep is similar to a drunk person in reaction time.

    That said you have to find a way to get the sleep you need because you can't make it a habit to call in for lack of sleep. I wouldn't mention it to anyone because I doubt others would be sympathetic.

    There is a culture in nursing to come to work no matter what and just tough it out, kind of like the military and management plays on this and uses this to get staff to work overtime rather than hire more staff. When you've been a nurse for a while you realize there is a never ending shortage of staff with constant pressure to work extra. I learned pretty quick to just not answer the phone.

    As for your insomnia, perhaps talking to you Dr for a sleep aid would be a good idea. Rotating shifts are really bad for establishing a regular sleep schedule. Hopefully you can find a solution that works for you.

  • Jan 21

    I totally understand how an anxious person's mood can rub off on you and make you feel anxious. Is your stress because you don't know the right answer to the questions or just feeling overworked and overwhelmed by the call volume? I'm experienced know what to do but feel anxious and overwhelmed at times. I finally talked to my Dr and was given xanax. It has really helped me stay calm, function better and also helped ease my anger and frustration. Part of me feels weak for needing meds, but the other part of me wished I had asked for something years ago because I feel so much better and it makes work more manageable. I don't have to dread it. I don't take it every day and only take it if I feel I need it. I've read klonopin may be a better choice than xanax because it works slower and lasts longer.

  • Jan 4

    If only that first nurse had questioned why she needed to draw up 10 vials rather than consider that a vial was a single dose! So tragic! Fortunately the computerized med scanning system is preventing many possible med errors as long as it is used! When people skip scanning the meds in an emergency or feeling rushed that is when a med error could happen. If only such a system was in use both of these errors probably would have been prevented!

    I agree when and if you make a mistake it is important to be honest about it and take quick action to try to avert any danger and save the patient! A nurse I worked with once put capsacin gel on a patients leg wounds not realizing it was the wrong thing and was used for arthritis, it causes a burning sensation. She denied it even though it was obvious what happened and that patient suffered pain and injury from the wrong cream. If there had been a med scanning system this could have been prevented! If you don't know what something is or does double check before giving it! Even more tragic I remember reading about an error that lead to a young pregnant mother's death when an overworked and tired nurse skipped the med scan and ended up giving a lethal dose of a med. Criminal charges were filed against her even though it wasn't intentional! Please use the med scanning system! It will protect your patient and you and your license!

  • Dec 28 '16

    So far we only have our first name and RN on our badges, but a local competitor has both first and last names on their badges which I'm glad we don't do. Would be worried about a stalker situation. So far only recent new grads have had to sign a contract to get their BSN or lose their job after three years. They need to do this while working full time. Many are already in lots of student loan debt from either expensive private colleges or getting an ADN as a second degree after getting a prior Bachelors in another field. I feel for them. Admin hasn't tried to force other RN's to get a BSN, although I have heard this has happened in some places around the country.

  • Dec 27 '16

    So far we only have our first name and RN on our badges, but a local competitor has both first and last names on their badges which I'm glad we don't do. Would be worried about a stalker situation. So far only recent new grads have had to sign a contract to get their BSN or lose their job after three years. They need to do this while working full time. Many are already in lots of student loan debt from either expensive private colleges or getting an ADN as a second degree after getting a prior Bachelors in another field. I feel for them. Admin hasn't tried to force other RN's to get a BSN, although I have heard this has happened in some places around the country.

  • Dec 27 '16

    The unit manager is responsible for ordering equipment and I think it is a common trend in many places to keep the budget down by refusing to order needed supplies. When the budget is kept down the manager gets a bonus. Corporate healthcare at its finest!

  • Dec 14 '16

    I really doubt that the majority of MA prepared nurses are staying at the bedside for personal fulfillment! I think many either were unable to transition to the career/job they had hoped for or found out the pay wasn't adequate to live on and decided to just stay bedside. It is ironic that hospital management is concerned over too many people going back to school, but they obviously realize it is not cost effective to pay for education that is really not necessary for their nurses. Going back to school for personal fulfillment is a pretty expensive hobby, and I think a person should consider whether they can actually afford it before signing up for more school! Society pushes more schooling as the answer to career advancement because it doesn't want to face the reality that what is needed is more unions and more jobs that pay a living wage. But the end result is a bunch of over educated, indebted people stuck in low wage jobs. Nursing is one of the few jobs out there that pays a living wage and that is why so many people are jumping on the nurse bandwagon! I think many of the people going back to school may live to regret it when they are struggling to pay back the student loans and realize they don't have the money they need for life and for retirement!

  • Dec 13 '16

    That is what caller ID is for!


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