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  • Nov 23

    In response to the OP that being a nurse is just a robot following Dr's orders. I disagree it is not the Dr that is the problem it is the computer big brother micromanaging everything you do, questioning the meds you give, demanding excessive documentation just because you can.

    I went into nursing to both help others and have a "feel good" career, while making a living wage. The reality is disheartening, excessive stress combined with micromanagement,short staffing and inadequate equipment just so the corporate healthcare suits can get their bonuses and excessive salaries at our expense! It is a real letdown!

    I feel sorry for the new nurses that never knew what it was like when you actually had time to care for your patients and had a benevolent employer where profit didn't rule. I miss the good old days!

  • Nov 20

    In response to the OP that being a nurse is just a robot following Dr's orders. I disagree it is not the Dr that is the problem it is the computer big brother micromanaging everything you do, questioning the meds you give, demanding excessive documentation just because you can.

    I went into nursing to both help others and have a "feel good" career, while making a living wage. The reality is disheartening, excessive stress combined with micromanagement,short staffing and inadequate equipment just so the corporate healthcare suits can get their bonuses and excessive salaries at our expense! It is a real letdown!

    I feel sorry for the new nurses that never knew what it was like when you actually had time to care for your patients and had a benevolent employer where profit didn't rule. I miss the good old days!

  • Nov 19

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    I'm so tired of hearing about bullying . . . life is too short to be looking for bullies every where you go. Sounds like the OP got some negative feedback so she quit her job. Not all feedback is positive, and I doubt the new job will be all rainbows and butterflies either. But bullying? Sorry, no. Negative feedback (and it sounds like there was just one incident of it) is not bullying. Not even close.
    I'm not so sure it wasn't bullying. When one nurse and this one in charge takes it upon herself to bad mouth a coworker to the manager and then the mananger can't even remember the details, but tells you to wow them and don't know what to say to improve things, that is not constructive criticism. It may very well be slander. We need to be very careful with what we say about others and how we handle so called weaknesses as one may be destroying someone's reputation. Why not speak to that person and give them the benefit of the doubt. Also was the criticism valid and unbiased or was it meant to tear down and discourage someone. We have one nurse at work that enjoys writing people up and brags about it. She is intensely disliked by everyone and seems to always be finding ways to put others down to make herself seem superior. I've seen bullying and the tactics used to discredit the target such as getting fellow clique members to complain to the manager about the same thing at different times to get the other nurse in trouble.

    We all have different strengths and weaknesses and need to work as a team to help each other care for our patients, not bash someone and imply there is no hope of improvement.

    I wish you luck and happiness with your new job and with grad school!

  • Nov 2

    No I value my sleep too much! Not to mention I'm not a workaholic, plus I'd never want to be in as much debt as it would take to be a Dr! And now even the doctors are as henpecked as we are with administration, not to mention patient satisfaction ratings. No Thanks!

  • Oct 31

    No I value my sleep too much! Not to mention I'm not a workaholic, plus I'd never want to be in as much debt as it would take to be a Dr! And now even the doctors are as henpecked as we are with administration, not to mention patient satisfaction ratings. No Thanks!

  • Oct 26

    The young ones advance the clinical ladder because they see dollar signs; the older ones no it's a big scam so aren't in a hurry to join the herd. I don't think its worth the time, energy and stress of all the busy work to get and then keep the one time raise. Our facility has a demotion clause in the agreement, basically you jump thru all these hoops for a one-time tiny raise which they then hold over your head for evermore. They give you a raise but reserve the right to demote you and take it away! If that's not the most disrespectful thing I've ever heard of. Only in nursing would you get a raise with the threat of a demotion in the same sentence. The smart ones refuse to climb the ladder when they are being treated with such blatent disrespect. They want you to be certified and join nursing organizations but with your own money of course, their so cheap they even refuse to reimburse you!

  • Oct 9

    Good quality tennis shoes and custom orthotics help me. Additionally taking low dose elavil for migraine prevention actually took away my occasional foot pain while walking. Now I'm pain free!

  • Oct 2

    That is what caller ID is for!

  • Oct 1

    I think in some situations, the stress response is really PTSD. Where because of a prior bad experience (crashing patient, etc) any patient or situation that reminds of that time when you felt scared, trapped, overwhelmed brings up those feelings again. I know that was the case for me and given the high acuity of patients these days that extends beyond ICU to the step down and even regular floors, we are all at risk of developing this kind of stress reaction.

    I used a self-hypnosis tape I made to overcome this stress reaction. Sometimes people need therapy or even meds to help them remain calm. I was surprised with how many people suffer from this that never showed it. They'd tell me how anxious they were and they seemed so calm or I'd find out someone was on a betablocker to deal with their "performance anxiety".

    So many nurses suffer from anxiety, stress and depression that if you suffer from it you should seek help whether that be therapy, meds, hypnosis or just support from coworkers, all nurses, or family. Work doesn't have to be filled with dread and anxiety. There are things you can do to get over this so work can be an enjoyable experience again. When your in the midst of stress or anxiety attack all you see is fear, you forget all the good things, your team, your ability, your knowledge and skills. You have to remind yourself I can do this, I've handled this exact situation before and it turned out ok. My coworker will help me or the MRT team is there to help!

    Even before we had the MRT team the ICU staff where I worked was always very helpful and I would ask them to refresh my memory over chest tubes or if I had a question or concern. I could call and someone was always very friendly and willing to help. I never felt put down or criticized when I called on their assistance and in the beginning I did it a lot. Now I'm the resource person on the unit!

  • Sep 19

    Ruby Vee what happened to that poor women? Did she ever recover? How sad that he killed her dogs, that would have certainly hurt her and decrease her will to live! Too bad he couldn't be charged for animal abuse and mental cruelty to his wife! Well I imagine there is a special place in hell waiting for him!

  • Sep 16

    I remember the two day all day affair of nursing boards back in the day! And you only learned if you passed, not how well or poorly you had done. Months would go by while you were working and waiting and if you failed you could lose your job or at least be demoted till you passed. Talk about pressure! I passed but a couple coworkers didn't, one lost her job and had to go to a different hospital, the other worked as a HUC/CNA till boards were passed.

  • Sep 14

    It's wonderful you have a dream, no one's trying to kill your dream. We are trying to protect you from drowning in debt, a mortgage without a house, that a person could be trapped in for decades and if not paid off would find their social security garnished. In America we always stress having a dream and going to school to attain it, but where is the emphasis on how to finance your dream? Most don't even get basic financial planning education in school today, which is great for the bank's and private lenders who have you on the hook and great for the overpriced expensive schools that offer that carrot of a college degree. It's not that simple. You need to be educated financially to protect yourself and avoid a financial catastrophe!

    Congress has been changing the rules over the decades and especially with the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform that took away consumer protections and bankruptcy options from all student loans and the private lenders jumped to provide high priced, dare I say predatory loans, adjustable to 18+, capitalize and increase while in deferment. You need to know basic financial knowledge because the rate of the loan determines how quickly a loan will double in size if in deferment. Example, if you do not make payments and interest capitalizes while loans in deferment at 3% it would take 24 years to double in size, 6% it would take 12 years, but at 12% it would take only 6 years to double and at 18% in 4 years your loan will have doubled! You can look it up, its called the Rule of 72!

    If you watch Suze Orman you will find many people with student loans of $100,000, even sometimes more $200,000 and don't make enough money to pay them off, then they are in default, which disqualifies them from many jobs, find their wages garnished and tax returns taken and can even have their license to practice withhold. If your license were withheld as a penalty you could not work, not just RN's, many jobs require licenses even beauticians and massage therapists.

    Personally, I think a DNP is overkill and a MSN FNP would be good enough. I do believe experience, networking and personality will trump DNP vs MSN FNP when job hunting. I don't believe you will be paid more for a DNP and FNP typically are paid half of a primary MD so keep that in mind when considering total student loan debt.

    Plan to have to be willing to move to get a job and having to network and send out letters/resumes to doctors or organizations you'd like to work for. Some school programs require you to find your own preceptor which if you are outgoing you could tailor make to the best person/specialty, others just give you whoever they can find. Just some things to think about.

  • Sep 14

    How much do you owe on student loans and especially the private loans? $10,000 or 100,000? What are the interest rates of your loans, particularly the private student loans which usually are adjustable and can go upwards of 18%?

    I would get your private student loans paid back before pursuing more education and taking out more student loans. Private loans are the worst debt out there, worse than even credit card debt or gambling losses. You can declare bankruptcy for those, but not student loans and if you die and someone co-signed they would still be on the hook for the loan!

    You need to be proactive and network to get a job as an FNP. They are not as easy to come by as RN jobs used to be! Once you've got the private loans paid off and an emergency fund, then start taking some classes part-time and try to pay as you go and avoid student loans as much as possible. Stick with public govt loans but be aware that graduate govt student loans interest will no longer be deferred instead will be capitalized causing the loan to grow while you're in school!

  • Sep 11

    Count yourself lucky, where I work you don't have a choice. You have to get the shot or be fired. The only exception is if you can prove you had guillain barre or an anaphylactic reaction. A committee then decides whether to accept your Dr's excuse or you lose your job. And if you are accepted you have to wear a mask at all times for the entire flu season!

    Of course many people will tell you a flu shot is like taking vitamins, safe for everyone; and downplay the risks of paralysis and tell you it's your moral duty to get the flu shot. Funny how so many fellow health care workers are concerned about the various sundry duties a person must due to be a proper upstanding nurse! Don't you know you have to give up the right over your own body and what you put in it for this noble job!

    I've taken care of several people with guillain barre from a flu shot, if it's so rare why have I seen it so often? FYI if you are older than 50 your risks are higher! Also Bells Palsy is linked to the flu shot as well, not as serious, but certainly physically upsetting!

    That said many on here will post that you are ignorant and not a good nurse if you are against the flu shot or simply want to have the choice of what you put into your body. You will not find a sympathetic audience here on this issue, sad to say!

  • Sep 10

    Common sense she should have gotten vitals before calling the dr, still I can't help seeing this as a power play on the dr's part over past issues and he appears to be a very arrogant dr that becomes angry when you simply call him about a patient. Some dr's just don't want to be bothered and want to take it out on the nurse instead! Also some Dr's are so cheap they don't want you calling the answering service because they don't want to pay for the service. I don't think it is a good idea for a Dr to have that much power esp over the hiring and firing of hospital workers. So much for team work and mutual respect! I wouldn't want to work for a hospital that would fire a nurse just to please a Dr!

    The family complaints also sound ridiculous esp blaming her for the patients heart attack and renal failure. She had nothing nothing to do with that!

    Thankfully in all the years I've been a nurse there were only a few bad apples (Dr's) that would yell and be nasty because you had the nerve to call them about a patient! Most of my experiences with Dr's have been pleasant and respectful. But surgeons have a reputation for arrogance and being difficult to please and some for having a God complex.


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