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Joined Oct 24, '06. AnnieOaklyRN is a RN, Paramedic. She has 'Previously ER RN, 17 years in EMS (yes, I still love it) , IV RN 8 months!' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'IV RN, (911) Paramedic'. Posts: 1,991 (31% Liked) Likes: 2,184

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  • Mar 3

    We mostly entered the profession for altruistic reasons. I happened to be an Army Combat medic/EMT then became an LPN and finished an ADN program. I remembered getting chided for not having a BSN but I was never sure I'd stick it out or like the work. I actually had enough to get my BS but chose a different path after working in cardiac/surgical ICU for ~10 years. I didn't belong in the profession as a straight male in his 20s but only the transition to the civilian sector in the 1970s was weird though not in the military. I didn't get quite the respect of my colleagues with BSNs. When the heart and vascular surgeons started interrupting report to congratulate me for good work, it didn't sit well with my senior staff who'd been working since the late 50s. I decided not to renew my license in 2014. I enjoyed the many years in Oncology, and ICU but not the craziness of a medical floor. I am encouraged by the new breeds of RNs and try to escalate their enthusiasm of caring and pursuit of healing. it's such a worthwhile profession I'll always respect but I'm still not sure men fit in. Best wishes on your retirement and thanks for a lifetime of caring, protecting and giving!

  • Mar 3

    Well, I did it. I turned in my two weeks notice. I'm finally leaving the nursing profession, for good. I had planned to do this months ago, but I decided to persevere a few more months to see if my opinion of nursing changed. It has not. These last few months fully confirmed for me that nursing is not where I belong in healthcare. I applied, interviewed and shadowed in various other nursing specialties, including ICU, outpatient clinics, case management, oncology/hospice, dialysis, and even outpatient psych, and none of these were right for me. I thought my problem with nursing had more to do with my specialty (cardiac step-down) being the wrong fit for me, but now I know that I honestly do not want to be a nurse, at all.

    Like most nurses, I dislike the short staffing, high nurse to patient ratios, the demanding families with their unrealistic expectations, needy, rude, and manipulative patients, patient satisfaction surveys, the increasing demands being placed on nurses, healthcare politics and drama, and so on. I know I'm not alone on this. But I dislike the basic elements of nursing, I don't like my role in healthcare with so much responsibility and so little power.

    Surprisingly, I don't mind patient care. I have no problem cleaning up a patient, helping them to the bathroom, feeding them, or cutting a little old lady's food for her. I have no problem doing this. I also like collaborating with MDs and NPs (well, most of them), I enjoy learning from them and trying to advocate for my patients. I have been told I do very well with critical thinking and problem solving. I don't mind charting. I absolutely love my dementia patients. These are the few positives I have with nursing.

    Now on to the negatives.

    My biggest issue in nursing is resuscitating a terminally ill patient, not because it is what the patient wants (I would not have a problem with the patient's own decision), but because the family is selfish, unrealistic, and refuses to let go. I have had several instances where a patient in a persistent vegetative state, with a trach, peg tube, and no quality of life is kept full code by family, even though the patient is in that state because family insisted that "everything be done." I have had several patients who died peacefully, were DNR, but family insisted that we "do everything" and we had to. I have serious moral and ethical issues with this.

    On a smaller note, I'm a perfectionist, leaving work undone is extremely difficult for me. I dislike the routine of passing medications over and over again; how impossible getting everything done feels with 6 high acuity patient and the many issues and problems that come up; running around the entire shift with very little food and rarely my full 30 min break (considering that I've lost 10 lb since becoming a nurse, and I was underweight to begin with). Being genuinely uninterested in what I'm doing/learning as a nurse, while also feeling super stressed and overwhelmed. The lack of hard science in nursing also contributes to my lack of interest.

    I also cannot stand dealing with constant issues for 12 hrs and "customer complaints" among the thousands of other things I need to do. I honestly dislike most of my patients (however, I never let this show). I absolutely hate talking with family members. I hate small talk with patients and dealing with patient/family drama. I hate getting blamed for everything (even if I have no control over it) and feeling like a human punching bag. I hate that I feel no connection or sympathy for 99% of my patients, and that nursing has made me see the worst in people. I always feel frustrated and angry. Every minute of my shift I hate it, and then I dread going back to work on my days off. Since becoming a nurse, I feel like I haven't been able to enjoy life anymore due to how much nursing drained me. After being diagnosed with anxiety/depression about 2 month ago (I was crying every day and getting to the point where I thought dying would be a relief - thankfully that has passed and is under control now), I realized I didn't want to live my life like this anymore, and for my physical and mental well-being, leaving nursing would be the best solution.

    Since I've "officially" made the decision to leave nursing, I have felt better than I have in a long time. I feel alive again, like a weight has been lifted off my chest and I can finally breathe. I will always remember and value what nursing has taught me, but I sincerely believe that I am one of those people who is just not right for nursing. It does not mesh well with my personality, interests, and especially not my mental/physical health. I have the highest respect for nurses. Everyday, you are able to do what I cannot. I felt like a failure and a horrible nurse for a long time because of this, but I came to realize that it is best for myself (and my patients), if I find something else to do. I also realized that there is no shame that nursing is not right for me, as long as I did my best to take care of my patients, didn't let my disdain for nursing show, and continued to be a responsible and dependable employee while working as a nurse.

    I'm going to be moving on to a new career, with no patient/family interaction and way more science involved (Masters in Biomedical Engineering). I'll still be around on allnurses because, well, I love you guys!

    *Way Too Long to Read: I'm leaving nursing, it wasn't for me at all. I'll still be around. Nurses are awesome, thank you for all you do!!*

  • Feb 26

    Heh. You are not the only one to encounter this type of situation on the home front. My husband made it clear he didn't think I should pursue an education in general and nursing in particular. He had his reasons, but it didn't help things at home very much.

  • Feb 13

    Hi Annie,

    Like amnesia said, ER experience is not accepted at most schools but I believe a few do, only if you work in a Level I trauma center where you get exposure to anything and everything patient population wise. Most programs like experience gained in ICUs in large teaching hospitals. I'm currently in my first semester of a DNP-NA program. We're allowed to work for the first two semesters (about 8 months) of the program as all of the courses are online but for the remaining time (28 months) working would be very difficult as the course and clinical load are very heavy.

    Good luck!

  • Feb 13

    Cost: depends on school. Check out all-crna-schools(dot)com. Anywhere from probably $45k-140k tuition, plus living costs (or FREE! if you go the military route). Keep in mind schools will need to be DNAP by 2025, and many will be before then, so you are looking at 3 years full time school vs. a masters program which is about 28 months or so.

    Experience: I don't think that most accept ER experience. There is a list at the site I mentioned though, click CRNA schools, then Unique Programs, scroll down and they have a list of schools that supposedly accept ER. Paramedic doesn't count for the experience, they want ICU nurse experience. Vents, drips, lines, etc. You need about 2 years ICU experience minimum, there may be a few schools that accept 1 year. Adult ICU is preferred, but SOME schools do take NICU/PICU. Again, check out the site I mentioned and see the requirements of the schools you are looking into.

    Every school seems to have different requirements, but in general, your best bet is 2 years adult ICU experience! Good luck

  • Feb 6

    My school is part of a hospital system and offers a loan forgiveness program if you work for them after graduation. I graduated in Dec 2014. I'll have $10,000 forgiven in another couple of months and have about $3000 left on student loans. I paid about $3000 in cash as well.

  • Feb 1

    Annie,
    Don't you even think about giving up your dream like NICU. Neonatal specialty needs nurses like you, who worked somewhere else but NICU was a true calling. Children hospitals and teaching hospitals hire new grads, therefore will take you with general experience before new grad. Although they wanna save money and cant afford you... You just havent found a right hospital. Before you consider giving up whole specialty, give up your hospital.. If they dont wanna take you into NICU with ER experience, they are fools!!! We just hired 12 new grads for NICU. I wish they had any, any experience anywhere. That makes a difference. So no, you can not give up. We need people like you. On the other hand, are you willing to move for NICU job and where are you now?
    Agne
    Neo Rn (10 y. In NICU)

  • Jan 30

    Another option is to volunteer as a cuddle in the NICU you want to work in. Be very helpful and get to know the staff. Then let them know you want to work there. If the staff likes you they will be a good reference for you.

  • Jan 28

    I'm 50 and will start the nursing program at my community college this Fall with all my prereqs completed. I'm retiring from my local police department in December after 23 years as a cop. I feel I'm too young to do nothing for the rest of my life and nursing is challenging and rewarding.

  • Jan 26

    how do you know you bombed the interview? maybe you just think you did there may have been a more qualified candidate that they already had their sights set on and thats why you didnt get hired! No harm in trying again!

  • Jan 26

    Pretend nothing happened, submit a normal resume and apply. The very worst thing that will happen is that they will say no. If they do, keep reapplying when an opening comes up.

  • Jan 26

    My dream job, physician office, with those wonderful hours......
    But it took my third application to get hired.......been at the job almost 4 years.....
    so you have nothing to loose, and everything to gain.....

    best wishes

  • Jan 21

    Thank Goodness that shift is over. If you don't ask me what I'm drinking, I won't ask what kind of brownie that is, Deal?

  • Nov 22 '16

    Anyone attending you during minor surgery retain their rights to free discussion.

    Politics, religion.. whatever. Get OVER yourself. As long as it does not breach HIPAA.. why would you care?

  • Nov 22 '16

    I'll go against the majority a bit here and say that while it's not the wisest thing to do in front of patients, IMO it hardly ranks in the top 20 or maybe even top 50 unprofessional things that can be done in a hospital. Ratting on them for this is a tad overdramatic.


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