LPN...not good enough?? - page 3

So, I have been an LPN for the last 5 years and I love what I do. But one of my patients that I've had last week was an RN. Now I do not have anything against RN's at all, but she asked me if I was a... Read More

  1. Visit  em1025 profile page
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    No, there is NOTHING wrong with you being an LPN!!!!!! If you are good at what you do and you LOVE what you do, there is nothing wrong with it!!! This unfortunately has been an area of contention for YEARS in the nursing community, and I am sick of it! Why is being an LPN look upon as being a "stepping stone" to the "all glorious RN"??? Please! There are just as many are good LPNs and bad RNs as there are great ones. We need to STOP eating our young and lift each other up and encourage each other. I have been an LPN for 20 years, got my degree (BS) in Health Care Management. Not because I didn't want to be an RN, but I'm a good nurse already, and the amount of 'alphabet soup' I have behind my name doesn't indicate how good I am. Keep your head up, be proud and don't take one persons disgruntled opinions as fact!
    Thankyou so much
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  3. Visit  Vande profile page
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    LPN's are the red headed stepchild of the nursing world. I just left a high paying job at a magnet hospital. I literally was told by my nurse manager (in the outpatient clinic I was in) that "you will be so valuable when you get your RN". I then told her I thought I was valuable now. She didn't know what to say then. Funny thing is, I was there 10 years and trained/precepted most all of the RN's that came in. Until early last year when I guess they didn't like that anymore. The difference between LPN's and RN's in this clinic was....nothing. We didn't push meds, we didn't hang blood, start IV's on kids, nothing. The difference was Magnet. LPN's do not fit into the Magnet world. Trust me--I will not tell anyone to have thicker skin, or tell LPN's it's their problem. I know how difficult is is when RN's, BSNs, APRNs etc are constantly belittling you. One BSN co-worker told me that she taught LPN's (doubtful) and that we were taught how to DO things, but not the reasons why. I just smiled. I remember doing tons of care plans and rationales for nursing interventions. This was the prevailing attitude coming from the big manager. So I left and am now working with a fabulous subspecialty surgeon (2 RN's applied as well, but I got the job) who trusts me and we are working well together!
    RN2BE2016, theleaf, ElSea, and 4 others like this.
  4. Visit  paganoid profile page
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    Quote from em1025
    I never thought an LPN was not good enough, I feel confident in what I do and I feel that the title nurse applies to me too but she had me questioning is this what everyone thinks?
    To the OP, this is not unique to LPN vs RN. ADN vs. BSN vs. MSN, advanced practice vs. "floor" nurses, medicine vs. nursing, on and on, it all amounts to the same thing. It's like an internet flame war: passionate but pointless. Dear Abby would have a glib reply to deflect the question before it turned into a conversation; I'm not that clever. I just look them in the eye and say, "I'm much too busy to discuss this trivial distinction."

    BTW: I did a paper in Nursing History class saying basically that nursing is a Big Tent with room for all types of professional Nurses (LVN, ADN, BSN, diploma graduates, advanced practice, etc) and One Size Need Not Fit All. IMHO anyone who disagrees is trying to take control for personal gain.
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  5. Visit  gypsyd8 profile page
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    I have been an RN since 2003. I do not work with LPN's anymore but when I did I valued them for their clinical insight and ability to care for patients. You are a nurse just like me. We have different levels of education but your experience in your field may rival the knowledge I have from books. We need to work together for the benefit of the patient.

    That person who you cared for may have had an inferiority complex. On the other hand, maybe she just had additional questions. I would not assume she thought you did not know what you were talking about. If she knew more she would not need the Physician Assistant to go over anything with her, as RN's we know where to look things up. Maybe she was sick and under stress, not able to process information normally. She needed to hear it from multiple sources to absorb it. Do not beat yourself up.

    OTOH, there are plenty of LPN to BSN programs out there. Maybe you should look into one. Then teach us all how to be nurses first. Care for patients first. Put our ego second. You may be on to something here....
  6. Visit  HoustonRN-VA profile page
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    I wish people like doctors and advanced degreed individuals would realize that GOD gave us all gifts and talents to use which help us make our way in the world. I have known LPN/LVN that I would sooner work with than some RN or MD. If you are doing the best you can with what GOD gave you, then don't pay critical people any mind. I say let go, and let GOD. Does this always work?, no, but most of the time it works for me. Keep up the good work.
    tshana71, Bess87, and LTCNS like this.
  7. Visit  WldChrry profile page
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    Just to put things in perspective, this whole "RN vs. LPN" thing goes on in other career fields too, not just healthcare. On top of my LPN training, I have an AA in Early Childhood Education-with that degree I could be a pre-school or daycare teacher, but not a teacher in public schools (I would need a Bachelors in Education for that). Public school teachers make alot better money than daycare or pre-school teachers, and have alot more respect. It's sad because any teacher, just like any nurse, is important. I am currently very close to finishing my Bachelors degree in Health Education, but who would think because I'm just an LPN right? People are always going to judge and always going to compare-it's an unfortunate facet of human nature.
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  8. Visit  NursePelican profile page
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    I know some LPN's that know more and run circles around the RN's. The honest RN's admit it. What I can't stand is when a RN calls themself a Nurse and a LPN and LPN in the same sentance. "The Nurse must do the initial assesment, the LPN can do the intitial interview." Someone please tell me again what the "N" in RN, LPN, and CNA stands for?
    RN/MSN1984, tshana71, theleaf, and 2 others like this.
  9. Visit  rnsdogs profile page
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    Never let them get you down! There are too many RN's that think they are better than anyone, if she treated you like that just imagine how she treated her former co worker. Nurses like that give nursing a bad name. These are the kind of nurses that think doctors don't know what they are doing, dangerous! I'm just surprised she thought the PA would know more than her. Keep up the good work and always remember why your doing it in the first place.
  10. Visit  em1025 profile page
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    Quote from rnsdogs
    Never let them get you down! There are too many RN's that think they are better than anyone, if she treated you like that just imagine how she treated her former co worker. Nurses like that give nursing a bad name. These are the kind of nurses that think doctors don't know what they are doing, dangerous! I'm just surprised she thought the PA would know more than her. Keep up the good work and always remember why your doing it in the first place.
    Thanks
  11. Visit  amiezamora76 profile page
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    I find it quite amusing that people feel that way about LVN'S. The hospital where I did my clinicals had LVN's and RN's working the E.R. and the RN's would even tell you, the LVN'S ran circles around them. They were just as competent if not more so in certain areas than than the RN'S. I feel it is more about ego than skill.
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  12. Visit  nurseywifeymommy1 profile page
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    I'm an LPN, I hv enough credits to bridge and the head of our nursing school loves me and told me she has a slot for me. I hated nursing school, the stress was terrible. My husband is a pilot, I don't need to work. I'm a nurse bc it's what I hv always wanted. Being an RN would open more doors for me, but it's not worth the stress to me and we are financially sound. Idc what ppl think. I never have. I'm happy with who I am and what I do. If someone doesn't think I'm a real nurse it's on them and they can feel free to apply to nursing school. It's what you think that matters.
    theleaf, CLUVRN, and applewhitern like this.
  13. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from NursePelican
    I know some LPN's that know more and run circles around the RN's. The honest RN's admit it. What I can't stand is when a RN calls themself a Nurse and a LPN and LPN in the same sentance. "The Nurse must do the initial assesment, the LPN can do the intitial interview." Someone please tell me again what the "N" in RN, LPN, and CNA stands for?
    Well, CNA stands for Certified Nursing Assistant. They are not nurses. "Nurse" is a legally protected title that can only be used by RNs and LPNs.
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  14. Visit  Jeffthenurse profile page
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    I've been teaching PN students for the past three years and I'm very proud of the graduates and what they've been able to accomplish after just a year in school. We have an 87% pass rate on the boards and most of the graduates have jobs in nursing. Hospitals are not hiring LPN's in the urban areas of NJ & PA but nursing homes and prisons are. But the writing is on the wall for my students mostly because of a study by Linda Aiken, RN, a Ph.D at the University of PA, who proved (by Dr Aiken and by others replicating her study) that patient outcomes were better if the nurse caring for patients had a BSN. She studied the charts of over 20,000 patients so it was a signficant study size. We've even lost some clinical sites because the hospitals decided to only have BSN students in their buildings and asked the LPN and AD programs to find other clinical sites. I strongly disagree with this practice but there wasn't much I could do; those places no longer hire LPN's and therefore felt they only wanted to teach BSN students because that's who they were looking to hire. I now tell my students to be the best LPN they can be but to look for an RN program ASAP after graduation. My school also now has an LPN to RN Bridge program to assist them in their educational endeavors.


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