Quote from SmilingBluEyes
Well perhaps, but CNMs, at least, ARE nurses first and always. Being "stuck" in nurse mode is not always a bad thing,either.
It does not necessarily make for a better midwife, though. And doula studies found that it was actually preferable to NOT have a medically trained doula attend a woman. (Though we admittedly have no medical role in birth.)
I think that much of nursing and medicine, particularly when it comes to birth, is so fear based, that nurse-midwives have to divest themselves of this mindset in order to be at their optimum for the women they serve. CPM's and lay midwives, not having had the medical training, are less likely to approach birth with trepidation.
Now before everyone goes telling me about the CNM who is so granola that she crunches as she walks down the hall, and the lay midwife who acts like a mini-OB, I want to clarify that I'm speaking in generalities about the philosophical underpinings of nurse versus lay midwifery.
Interestingly, in studies done on outcomes of CNM's vs CPM's, it seems that having a nursing degree does not necessarily grant you more favorable results, just like having a medical degree doesn't get you healthier mothers and babies.
So while it's fine that those CNM's are nurses first, it might actually be more of a hindrance and less of a help at times. And depending on where the CNM is trained, and how controlling the OB department was in setting the tone of her training, as well as her personal bent on childbirth, CNM's are sometimes little more than obstetric handmaidens, sadly.
On Frontier - I've heard nothing but fantastic things about this program, particularly because you spend time not only learning the midwifery side, but the business side of things as well.