Work in other countries after graduating in the Philippines

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Hello,

I am currently a sophomore at Far Eastern University in the Philippines. I am a United States citizen, born and raised there, and just came here to get my degree in nursing. Now there are a whole bunch of issues going on with the California board and i might not get to work there. So i was wondering what countries accept the degree I will get from FEU? Up for suggestions, advice, and pretty much anything

Yes that is exactly what I have been reading everywhere that I look. As long as we do our cases along side our theory we should be ok. The classes are being taught decently, I mean there could be some changes to make them much better but so far so good. Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.

That does sound good so far. Now if those changes you mention will also be as good as those gives more into the daily "critical thinking" the way USA students are taught, not just how to do simple things, but asked with each instructor: why it's being done, why it has to be this way, what would you do in these case, they give you scenarios right there, why if's, what do think are the other options or are there, nursing duties that makes you think on your feet, do use the things (your mind also) as to how it will relate to the NCLEX exam questions, that's why so many CA or USA students are able to pass their NCLEX on the first take at near 85-90% passing rates. They usually don't need to take or bother expensive review courses or need to buy more books to take the examination.

This is what I've learned from my US nursing friends on their successful NCLEX passing. The ones you see in the NCLEX forums many times are the ones that failed them. As so many passers in States usually take their NCLEX within the first 6 months of their graduation, so that it's still very fresh in their minds.

One other reason the CA and or USA nursing students do well in the NCLEX is that they get "one-on-one" very qualified hospital nursing instructor that they must be joined at the hips at all times while they are doing their clinical training, except for bathroom times and lunch breaks and regular break time.

That's why the USA schools are so impacted (crowded) to get into a nursing program, they purposely limit the student population as there's only so many hospitals and only so many experienced nurses that can safely teach a newbie student nurse. Who wants to be a patient with 10-20 nurses looking at you? It's just not only for the patient's safety but for everyone walking around.

I am considering getting California license. May I know what's with California?

Besides, what Kuyafern covered, in CA and many many other States now require a SSN to apply or if granted to take the NCLEX, you must provide that State's BON with a SSN before the license is actually given to you.

No SSN, no exam testing, no job.

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Dead on the spot. hehe. PI is the complete opposite of the states. You'll see 25 students in one ward trying to care for their patient. It's almost impossible for clinical instructors to monitor their students.

I believe one of the reasons California implemented these strict regulations is due to the competency of some nurses. Just by experience, I have had classmates confess they take up nursing for the sake of money, or they were forced to take it or else the parent's won't support them. There is lack of passion to their job. In my group there were about 12 of us and I can say only 3 of us were in it because of the fulfillment we get after each duty. Everyone else is doing it for the sake of graduation requirements. There are a lot of Filipino workers in the states today but there's only a few that actually work with passion.

Still, I won't give up. There's a way for me to take the NCLEX somehow, somewhere.

One other reason the CA and or USA nursing students do well in the NCLEX is that they get "one-on-one" very qualified hospital nursing instructor that they must be joined at the hips at all times while they are doing their clinical training, except for bathroom times and lunch breaks and regular break time.

That's why the USA schools are so impacted (crowded) to get into a nursing program, they purposely limit the student population as there's only so many hospitals and only so many experienced nurses that can safely teach a newbie student nurse. Who wants to be a patient with 10-20 nurses looking at you? It's just not only for the patient's safety but for everyone walking around.

Exactly. I have been doing my homework all along, and I noticed quite many places asked for SSN. Stuck.

I feel great to find someone who's just as determined to sit for NCLEX regardless of the current situation in US. Actually, Canada is quite a nice country too. I was told about this school called Royal Canadian Institute of Technology that offers RN licensure preparation program. Wonder if you have you heard of?

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Yes a majority if not all of the states are now requiring SSN. There have been a huge number of employees without SSN and now the government is implementing no SSN no work policiy because they are trying to prioritize unemployed u.s. citizens to get a job first. It's pretty bad right now in the US but it's getting a little better. well, really little.

Canada is a nice country, been there this summer. What's the Canadian Institute of technology? Do they offer a bridging program for foreign grads?

Canadian Institute of Technology is at Vancouver, a private institution that offer a 8-month licensure preparation program to help foreign nurses to sit for CRNE--and pass it. At the end of 8 months, they will arrange us to certain institution for 2 months attachment. If manage to build good rapport with the staffs there and they also give good feedback on your performance, maybe might be able to offer a job there.

However, it is relative expensive for 8 months program. For international students, it cost about 14000 Canadian dollar. I am not sure about this school though. Usually to apply for bridging program, one has got to get SEC Canadian assessment for international nurses done first, and then they'll decide if we need bridging program.

Vancouver is a nice place, but my boyfriend is in California. That's why I want to go there, but everyone's saying US is bad, and CA is so hard to get in. If that's the case, maybe I will try Vancouver?

A lot to think about when it comes to this.

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wow that is pricey specially for 2 months. It sounds good that applicants will be able to go to an institute and train. Well it's not like california is the only state you can apply for the exam. You should try New York or Michigan.

Well see the CA BON-NCLEX has been getting anal with their requirements quite recently. I started hearing of this issue about 3 months ago, and at that time it was only CA, but now its about 11 other states that have jumped on this. My concern is that by the time i am done here it might affect the entire if not majority of the US. i figured i might was well work in some other country if i cannot work in the one i am from. I was also considering taking up medicine but that's just a thought.

Well see the CA BON-NCLEX has been getting anal with their requirements quite recently. I started hearing of this issue about 3 months ago, and at that time it was only CA, but now its about 11 other states that have jumped on this. My concern is that by the time i am done here it might affect the entire if not majority of the US. i figured i might was well work in some other country if i cannot work in the one i am from. I was also considering taking up medicine but that's just a thought.

Yea, true. I know many of my friends are also now looking into Aust. and New Zealand, but it's getting very crowded with tons of PH grads and nurses and the requirements geting longer and longer to process.

Not sure if you read the article somewhere around here about "Nursing Dreams Turned Sour in the Phils"....so very much true with a recent unemployment of over 200,000 PH nurses/students, with a added brand new 80,000 bodies coming into play soon, just from PH alone!

It's the signs of the current times, no more nursing shortages, global recession and read where it will only get worse for another 4-5 years, so you might be okay, but not 100% if that will change, as the USA alone can't absorb their own local grads with CA in the near 50% unemployment rate of CA new grads. There are CA nurses and other parts of the state, where new grads are still not working in their first nursing job for two years or more and don't forget, the preferences are many places now hiring mostly the locals, not international students.

Many hospitals are hiring what they call "internals", those students that did their clinical work at the same place or had some volunteer work inside, or in some cases, a friend who is already hired and then refers their friend inside, coming from the same school.

exactly my concerns, but i think instead of worrying about all of this i might take up medicine, give the economy some more time to bounce back and then not worry having to work as nurse and just work as an MD instead. Just a thought that i am highly considering seeing that i will be completing my pre-med here so i might as well continue on with medicine.

exactly my concerns, but i think instead of worrying about all of this i might take up medicine, give the economy some more time to bounce back and then not worry having to work as nurse and just work as an MD instead. Just a thought that i am highly considering seeing that i will be completing my pre-med here so i might as well continue on with medicine.

You're still early in the game, so that's good. If you do pursue the doctor route, do you plan to practice in PH or make your way into CA?

I don't know anything about becoming a MD in CA, but have you looked into how to get licensed as a doctor in CA if you're a foreign graduate? Just a thought to make sure you're not spinning your wheels.

I know of a cousin's friend who is a doctor in PH and she could not even become an RN in CA, she was hoping to land a RN job in the San Francisco area, making $65 an hour, with her 8 years of being a PH doctor, but was denied the nursing license. She knew that as her other doctor friend tried also, but for a RN position in Los Angeles, also denied. Again, not sure if the PH curriculum meets CA standards if you're coming as a MD applicant, so check the requirements. Good luck!

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