Which is better: UK, Australia or New Zealand student visa?

[ladygie24]

Hi!

There's a lot of buzz with this new scheme of sending out nurses to "study and work" in UK, Australia and New Zealand through student visas. But there are clouds of doubt with regards to the 'real working conditions" in those said countries are what those visa placement agencies claim them to be.

I was enticed by the program for UK. It was even on the news last night (ABS-CBN). I was skeptical since they accept even undergrads, Practical Nurses and midwives. So, if i really work there (UK) as RN, why in the world would they accept undergrads?!

A quick look over at some internet forum sites opened my eyes. In UK, going there though these student visa scheme, you wouldn't work there as a nurse, but rather as a caregiver (with paid working hours up to 20 hours/week, as this is a requirement of the course). AND with NO GUARANTEE of staying there (or even getting a permit to work) after the entire duration of the course is over.

So my question is this: Is the Australia and New Zealand student visa schemes similar to UK?

If not, how do they differ?

If yes, which is better?

I would like to solicit the advice of those Filipino nurses who are already in the UK, Australia and NZ.

An informative reply would be very much appreaciated. :wink2:

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

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[Aelith]

to aelith:still can't PM anyways, should i decide to study in Australia, will i be able to, at least, fund my expenses there (accommodations, food, transpo) by working part-time?? The tuition fee for the 2-year cost is way too high approximately 600 K php a year.

You will be allowed to work for 20 hours per week during school days and unlimited hours during semester breaks. Let us say you earn around 15 an hour as a minimum wage, you'll be paid 300 per week. Honestly, this 300 will depend on which state you'll be staying at and the cost of living in that place. For example in Sydney, if you are going to rent a shared accommodation, you'll be paying around 100-200 a week inclusive of all bills. The money left after tax which will be approximately 70-170 aud, will be budgeted for your food, transpo and miscellaneous expenses. I would say 50-70 aud per wk for food and transpo (depending on how far your uni is from your place), will be around 30-50 aud a week. Those are just examples. As you can see, you will be able to live with whatever you can get but, it will be a bit hard too. It would always be good to bring extra money when you go there because for sure, there will come a time that you will be short of money especially when you factor in the uniform, books, photocopies, winter clothes, etc.

[Titanium888]

Heya! Come to NZ, instead! Lots of pinoys came here by themselves without agency. Do your research and take a plunge! Sure, it's small country and lower value of dollars in currency compared to Aussie and UK but man! I'm telling u this is absolutely a great place to work and live. Check my other thread for other infos! It's easier to go to NZ but if you can make it in Aussie, why not? UK is way too difficult to go to. So, you're in a right track -Aussie or NZ.

Goodluck!

[entoy]

To the thread starter, ladygie24.

I did not look into the Anglia Ruskin University program that you were talking about, but I've been to the UK in 2000 and 2002 and I've been to ARU and it's a legit institution offering programs that are approved by the UK government.

I think what some people here did not understand is that Scotland, which is on the northern part of the UK and is where the students/graduates will be eventually deployed in, has a very small population despite its stable economy. The Scottish government has found out that many of their residents don't stay and work for their territory. Thus in order to save the "diaspora", which their government think is a real problem that's plaguing them now and would have a strong and devastating effect on them in the future, the Scottish government thought of a scheme to attract people from other countries to stay and help the economy grow. The reason is more of economic rather than political. But as far as I'm concerned, this scheme which they are extending to international students in only applicable in Scotland. What I do not know is, if your visa, once you're given the permit to work, would also be applicable to England, Wales and Northern Ireland. My gut feel says that it's not, however. But I'm not sure.

Would you mine telling us how much did they ask from you?

penicillin8,

I'm very interested to migrate to NZ, but I'm not wealthy and I'm not a nurse. What possible way for someone like me to be able to go there the cheapest way? My undergrad degree is economics and my line of work is marketing and some office-related works. I'm open to a study-work scheme if that's the initial way to go by this.

Please do help.

thank you in advance.

Entoy :)

[monroe77]

I need your advice guys....I was about to apply the study and work program in UK (I'm going to work part time as caregiver then the study program will last for 3years). The agency told me that I can work 35 hours per week and can do overtime. My friend in UK said that if I'll go there under student visa, I will be allowed to work 20 hours per week only and will only receive 5-6 pounds per hour. My salary as a caregiver would not be enough to support my expenses there...He suggested not to pursue my plan of going to UK under the student and work program.

I inquired also in one of the agencies offering student visa for australia (study and work). The agency was requiring me to undergo a 3months training here in the Philippines (aged care) and the tuition for 3 months training is 309,000 php (excluded the visa and other expenses), plus a show money amounting 1.7million php. I'm going to study for 2 years in australia (aged care) then will work as a caregiver (20hours per week). The tuition fee for the 2 year course is more than 600,000pesos. Actually, I already paid 10,000php for the reservation fee. I was about to start the training when my friend from NZ called me and said that it's not worth it...She adviced me to go to NZ as tourist rather than accepting the offer of the agency for australia....My friend told me that there are plenty of available jobs in NZ but if I'll go there as tourist, there is still no assurance that I will be given a work permit. It's still matter of luck and prayers... I'm really confuse and do not know what to do...

I am a nurse by profession and been waiting for my US visa for almost 4 years now. I'm afraid that I will end up in middle east but if I have no other choice, why not? I have the funds but still very difficult to go to oz or nz.....I hope somebody can enlighten me...thank you....

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

I need your advice guys....I was about to apply the study and work program in UK (I'm going to work part time as caregiver then the study program will last for 3years). The agency told me that I can work 35 hours per week and can do overtime. My friend in UK said that if I'll go there under student visa, I will be allowed to work 20 hours per week only and will only receive 5-6 pounds per hour. My salary as a caregiver would not be enough to support my expenses there...He suggested not to pursue my plan of going to UK under the student and work program.

I inquired also in one of the agencies offering student visa for australia (study and work). The agency was requiring me to undergo a 3months training here in the Philippines (aged care) and the tuition for 3 months training is 309,000 php (excluded the visa and other expenses), plus a show money amounting 1.7million php. I'm going to study for 2 years in australia (aged care) then will work as a caregiver (20hours per week). The tuition fee for the 2 year course is more than 600,000pesos. Actually, I already paid 10,000php for the reservation fee. I was about to start the training when my friend from NZ called me and said that it's not worth it...She adviced me to go to NZ as tourist rather than accepting the offer of the agency for australia....My friend told me that there are plenty of available jobs in NZ but if I'll go there as tourist, there is still no assurance that I will be given a work permit. It's still matter of luck and prayers... I'm really confuse and do not know what to do...

I am a nurse by profession and been waiting for my US visa for almost 4 years now. I'm afraid that I will end up in middle east but if I have no other choice, why not? I have the funds but still very difficult to go to oz or nz.....I hope somebody can enlighten me...thank you....

Most pay carers in the UK on minimal wage especially if no experience and currently the min wage if over 22 is £5.73 and going up to £5.80 and hour in October 09. I think you will find it hard to live on that plus look after family and you are in the UK only allowed to work 20 hours a week, the agency that told you 35 hours a week well 37.5 is full time hours for most so not sure how you can maintain full time student. Shame on the agency. Needs reporting to the British Embassy.

If you are already a RN then not sure why you do not look at working in Australia or New Zealand as a RN and just go through the process that people are looking at in this thread https://allnurses.com/international-nursing/newly-grad-filipino-287930.html I wouldn't recommend going to NZ on tourist visa and then hope to stay, you need to go through the N nursing board for registration etc and I would say better to start things in the Philippines and then move

[Aelith]

Silverdragon is right.. Just visit the thread she posted above and you'll find other people in the same situation as you who are now in the process of applying to Australia on their own BUT as an RN not as a caregiver.

Be careful of the offers made by the agencies... do some research first before anything else. You can apply in Australia even if you don't have experience yet so why go study to become a caregiver? Just my two cents..

[Antigone]

Is there still a bridging course that goes on for three months or so? I don't have a lot to spend.