sydney university

  1. I want to study master of nursing in sydney university.

    however, someone who works in australia told me the reputation of the nursing program in sydney university is not that good.

    And he also claimed that University of technology sydney is much better.

    is that true? and why?

    thanks
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   globalnurse
    I cannot answer your questions so directly, as to which Uni might be preceived to be better or otherwise for a MN. -suffice to say that its all about preceptions... every one of us have our own subjectiveness & make our judgements accordingly. I for one would take anothers recommendation with a "grain of salt" -much in the same way as I do concerning opinions on movies, foods or other such things in life. we all have our own individualist views...

    my recommendation is go size those that offer the programme -yourself. speak with current and past students of the programme and any graduates you might be introdued to... and get a "feel" for what might best suit you and your needs and learning style.

    The difficulty is with any institution and programme, is that different syllabuses and biases suit often very different groups of people, -once size just doesn't fit all. go get a feel for how each might suit you
    Last edit by globalnurse on Jan 11, '06
  4. by   Grace Oz
    I doubt that Sydney University would agree with your friend!
    However, as the previous poster has stated, you really do need to make your own judgement.
    Why not do some research on the internet and source information and make your decision based on fact as opposed to one persons personal view.
    Has your friend actually BEEN to University of technology? Or, university of Sydney?
    I'm not advocating either place here, just suggesting you don't listen to, or be swayed by the opinions of another. You must make your own judgements.
    Good luck!
  5. by   chaseh
    thanks to grace oz and globalnurse, I think I know what should do.

    Thank you very much!!
  6. by   landa29x
    so did you find out about Sydney University? Is their program com i was also considering their masteral program, the graduate entry program actually (from BSc Biology). The problem is that i'm in the philippines, and i don't have any nursing experience, never been a nursing student, so i wouldn't know how to go about comparing nursing schools.
  7. by   chaseh
    if you don't have any nursing experience and you want to start your nursing career in australia. Then you need to consider how much clinical attachment that the school will provide to you.
    Since, after graduation, you will be registered as a RN, so you have to carry out what you have leart in school. In turn, if a school can provide a good learning environment in both theoretic and practical approach, it must be good for you.
    may you compare how many hours in a week are clinical attachment? how would they guide their students in clinical area?

    sorry, I don't know much about graduate entry program of Sydney uni.
    Last edit by chaseh on Jan 16, '06
  8. by   landa29x
    Quote from chaseh
    if you don't have any nursing experience and you want to start your nursing career in australia. Then you need to consider how much clinical attachment that the school will provide to you.
    Since, after graduation, you will be registered as a RN, so you have to carry out what you have leart in school. In turn, if a school can provide a good learning environment in both theoretic and practical approach, it must be good for you.
    may you compare how many hours in a week are clinical attachment? how would they guide their students in clinical area?

    sorry, I don't know much about graduate entry program of Sydney uni.
    so from your opinion, you think Sydney can provide the things you mentioned?, considering that i have no experience in nursing at all? Sydney is the only school i know that has graduate entry.
  9. by   talaxandra
    Melbourne uni also has a graduate entry program. I don't know if there are others, but check out Good Guides (www.goodguides.com.au) - you can search for any course or discipline of study. If you put nursing and graduate entry intot he search sections allt he amtches should come up. Good luck
  10. by   chaseh
    sorry, I really don't have any idea on the program.
    but you may ask the faculty of nursing directly.

    In my opinion, clinical experience is very important when you are a RN and need to work independently.
    But, the experience can be built up gradually after you've completed your study. So if you still don't have any preference, and you love nursing.
    Then you can choose which school you like more, and where you want to live and work.
  11. by   mel1979d
    I studied my Bachelor of Nursing at Sydney University from 2000 - 2003 and can tell you 1st hand that your friend was so correct. I found the teaching standard there appauling. For such a grand university its nursing faculty is shocking. I never ended up completing my degree and am only completing it now. I was failing most of my subjects asell as alot of my fellow students as the lecturers were not turning up to some of the lectures due to strike action, in 1 year the 3 most amazing biology/chemistry teachers had been fired due to cut backs in staffing. i would not reccomend Sydney Uni to anyone... unless you want to learn nothing but a whole lot of political crap which goes on between staffing units. The dean of the faculty is more interested in getting the international students $$$ than keeping and educating its aussie nurses who will actually stay here to work...
    In my 1st year 485 students started, 115 failed that year, 58 dropped out, 2nd year 85 DROPPED OUT, almost a third of what was left failed!!!! Hundreds of complaints have been made but they have all been hidden and completely ignored.
  12. by   landa29x
    Quote from mel1979d
    I studied my Bachelor of Nursing at Sydney University from 2000 - 2003 and can tell you 1st hand that your friend was so correct. I found the teaching standard there appauling. For such a grand university its nursing faculty is shocking. I never ended up completing my degree and am only completing it now. I was failing most of my subjects asell as alot of my fellow students as the lecturers were not turning up to some of the lectures due to strike action, in 1 year the 3 most amazing biology/chemistry teachers had been fired due to cut backs in staffing. i would not reccomend Sydney Uni to anyone... unless you want to learn nothing but a whole lot of political crap which goes on between staffing units. The dean of the faculty is more interested in getting the international students $$$ than keeping and educating its aussie nurses who will actually stay here to work...
    In my 1st year 485 students started, 115 failed that year, 58 dropped out, 2nd year 85 DROPPED OUT, almost a third of what was left failed!!!! Hundreds of complaints have been made but they have all been hidden and completely ignored.
    thanks so much for this info...
  13. by   purplemeech
    Hi there, just to add a little more to this discussion... if you're not already aware, Sydney Uni has stopped taking new students for their undergraduate nursing course, and many staff have now moved on to other uni's (which are picking up the slack to maintain the number of nursing graduates coming out of NSW/Sydney). The current undergraduate students that I know who still need to complete their degrees are pretty damn angry about it (rightly so).

    Just be careful with UTS's graduate entry program, as I believe they simply put you straight into the 2nd year of the normal undergraduate program. I have met people who started this program but dropped out because they didn't have the basic knowledge to cope with 2nd year. But it may have changed since then. I have also heard good things about graduate entry at ACU (Australian Catholic Uni).

    It may also be useful (when you find a course you like) to look up the faculty handbooks which are usually on the website of each uni, to see what the clinical component of each course is like.
  14. by   AussieJack
    Firstly, you can do graduate entry at most universities for nursing, I am pretty sure just into their bachelor of nursing programme. Melbourne only allows graduate entry, but the rest are both. And nursing at the university of sydney is now by a masters degree.
    You can also do it as an undergrad because they offer several double degrees, such as:

    Bachelor of Arts/Masters of Nursing
    Bachelor of Science/Masters of Nursing

    etc.

    Hope this helps

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