RPN or RN?

  1. 0 Hi everyone,

    My name is Samantha and ive been accepted at Sheridan college for RPN. I currently attend York U, and have always dreamed of being an RN. York has a program that allows you to switch into nursing and fast track for 2 years but I don't think my GPA will be high enough for me to switch. I'd need straight A's this semester in order to get the GPA i need to switch,meanwhile the Sheridan program starts in may and i'd be able to fast track and be certified as an RPN within one year. What do you think I should do? I have to accept or decline Sheridan's offer by next week. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

    Thank you in advance,

    Sam
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  3. Visit  loriangel14 profile page
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    You could go for your RPN and then bridge to RN afterwards.
  4. Visit  BosRMT profile page
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    You could always accept Sheridan and apply to York, and if you get accepted to York, you could switch? And as said above you could bridge afterwards to become an RN, which is three years.
  5. Visit  Newgrad_STAT profile page
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    I personally would just go straight to the BScN program and not bother with the practical nursing route.
    There are wayyy more job opportunities for RNs and there's so many things you can do with your degree.
    There's probably 1 RPN job for every 5 RN jobs at the hospital.
    It's hard to find a decent position any where but I think the best route is definitely doing your BScN. Way more choices in the end
  6. Visit  loriangel14 profile page
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    It will depend on where you are looking for a job as well.The hospital that I work at has far more RPN jobs than RN jobs.
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  7. Visit  giveface profile page
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    as someone who recently graduated with his BScN in Ontario an is a working RN I can say with honesty its not the greatest thing out there. You are still overworked and underpaid and underappreciated. I recommend everyone try RPN first, less time, money an effort but you still get to be a nurse. As for all the "options" the BScN gives you, IMO not enough really.
  8. Visit  saints profile page
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    thank you, I really appreciate your honesty. I'll have to talk to admissions at York tomorrow about my chances of being admitted this september. Have you started working yet? How do enjoy it so far? are you able to use your full scope of knowledge ?
  9. Visit  giveface profile page
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    I'm not sure if you're asking me saints but I'll reply. I have started working in the same hospital I worked at in an unregulated role before graduating. I am already part time and was actually offered full time permanent at the end of my new grad. This was only due to several older RNs retiring when I came on board and that this hospital has a very poor staff satisfaction record (meaning no sane nurse who knows this wants to work there). Yesterday I went on stress leave just from volume of workload. It is a ++ busy med/surg floor with a heavy complete care psychogeriatric patient population. Add to this we have no health care aides anymore (administration eliminated them last September) and no porters. Anyways, more than just a little disillusioned with bedside nursing right now and I have no office job waiting for me even with my fancy BScN degree magna cum laude. I hope this all gives you a little real world perspective. Granted these could just be my experiences at a crappy facility but I don't think this should be allowed to go on in a country like Canada.
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  10. Visit  joanna73 profile page
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    It's up to you, but I would go for your RN if you have the time and you can afford it. The RPN role is very similar in scope now to the RN role, but their wage isn't reflecting this IMO. Also, should you decide you want to do travel nursing down the road, you need to be an RN.
  11. Visit  saints profile page
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    Thank you for your reply Joanna73. I actuallydo plan to travel eventually andworkoutside of Canada. One of the resons im considering the RPN position as opposed to the RN position is because i feel like its taking forever for me to progress and reach my goal of becoming an RN. Im 20 so one extra year of dedicated to upgrading my marks isnt a big deal, im just trading a sure thing for unsure at this point . i wont know whether ive been accepted to York until may-june, which is what makes my situation so frustrating.
  12. Visit  Fiona59 profile page
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    I'd probably say do the PN diploma and then be able to decide if nursing is for you. I've worked with many BScNs who've told me they'd love to leave nursing but they still have student loans to payback.

    One route to consider if you want to work outside of Canada is the ORTech or Ortho Tech specialty tags. Both have gone on overseas mission type projects from my hospital.

    As Joanna has stated the wage disparity between RNs and LPNs is a huge bone of contention to working nurses. It's primarily down to the fact that (at least in my province) the RNs unions bargain hard and fast and mount campaigns about how only RNs can provide quality care and basically intimidate the public into buying it. These are the same patients who when they arrive in Acute Care for their surgeries are amazed to find out they will be cared for by LPNs. The sad reality is the RNs bargaining tactics may finally be pricing a lot of them out of the jobforce.
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  13. Visit  Ottawavalleynursing profile page
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    I think you have decide how long you want to study and how much you want it. I personally went into the RPN route because I had a family and didn't want to do the 4 year program. There were financial constraints that I was facing, so that was the right decision for me. I wanted to finish faster and start working faster. I also don't think there are 5 RN jobs for every 1 RPN. Where I work, they are changing the standard of care, and lots of RN jobs are being converted into RPN jobs. I'm not telling you to do the RPN program, I'm just saying you have to look at your personal situation. I'm personally planning on doing the bridging program, so eventually it is my goal to become an RN. Perhaps applying to other Universities such as Ryerson or U of T may be the answer.
  14. Visit  toronto_nurse profile page
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    I agree, RN jobs are being cut in the major cities like Toronto where I'm from and there are way more RPN positions offered. I completed the practical nursing diploma after my undergrad from UofT and was considering taking the second entry route at UofT or York. After discussing with many people including instructors who taught both the practical nursing and second entry nursing programs they all concluded that the practical nursing route is the better approach overall. Second entry routes being faster also lack clinical hours. The only downfall for the practical nursing diploma is the lack of research methods until the bridging program but for those who have done APA in their undergrad may not have too many issues with scholarly writing.

    Every nursing candidate has to start off somewhere and It doesn't matter which route you take as long as you reach your ultimate goal of being the class of nurse you want to be.


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