NCLEX Test Centers

  1. Hi, I'm DDkted and this is my very first posting.

    After the US National Council of State Boards of Nursing (NCSBN) decided to allow NCLEX testing outside the US, several countries in Asia are now conducting these tests. The Philippines is not one of them. Filipino nurses have to go to Hong Kong or Seoul or Taipei, a vast improvement from when they have to go to either Guam or Saipan.

    I do not believe that this could be because of the fiasco in the most recent (2005) Philippine Board of Nursing examinations, first because the decision to hold NCLEX outside the continental US & its territories was done well before 2005 and second, the NCLEX exams are computer adaptive tests (CAT).

    While it is true that nursing schools in the Philippines have mushroomed, and the quality of nursing education may have gone down, this should not deter the NCSBN from conducting NCLEX CAT in the Philippines. It is precisely these examinations that serve as the "quality control" for Nurses going to the US. Conducting NCLEX in the Philippines will, in my view, tremendously help prevent nursing schools from being mere diploma mills preying on unsuspecting Filipinos. It will also make it more affordable to qualified nurses who with the present system have to spend a lot of money (which most don't have) and time going through a lengthy process----Philippine Board/CGFNS/English Proficiency exams/Visa Screen/ NCLEX.

    One more point is the fact that a lot of our neighbors come to our country to "learn English".

    I am sure that the integrity of the NCLEX computer adaptive tests can and will be maintained, and there will more qualified nurses who can help solve the nursing shortage the US is faced with for years now.

    I suggest that we write the National Council of State Boards of Nursing or the individual state boards on this issue.

    Best regards to all.

    DDkted
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  2. 18 Comments

  3. by   salonika
    That's wishful thinking. The NLE fiasco simply confirmed that effort is really exerted to go around standards just to make money as in the case of Gapuz and other review centers. The reason why graduates go to these centers is because of the circulated rumor that this particular review center has "leakages" to offer and thus, give them a better chance of passing.

    And since review centers find a way to get the questions in the NLE, what makes you so sure that they can't get the questions being asked in the NCLEX exams? Computerized as it may be, the questions are still controlled by persons and that is where the flaw lies as practically all persons can be corrupted, everybody has its price.

    Think of this, Gapuz used the Baguio Convention Center for the review of around 3,000 examinees. At a conservative 8K per head that translates to P 24M in Baguio alone, what about the other centers? Reports say that 50% of the examinees review with Gapuz, that's 21K out the total 42K, or a whooping P 168M for the June NLE review. Since he conducts this at least twice a year that's more than P 300M. Surely that leaves a lot of money to be allocated to paying off people who can supply the leakages, NLE or NCLEX notwithstanding.

    Let the NCLEX exams be held somewhere else, we can't afford it scandalized and jeopardize the future of Filipino nursing students.

    Let us not kid ourselves. Though in our hearts we strive to be credible before the world, there are still persons who are utterly selfish and think of nothing but themselves.

    Furthermore, we don't have a monopoly on the foreign nursing market. Nobody is indispensible.
  4. by   banj21
    just for thought.... the "leakage" issue broke off AFTER the exams, thus, obviously stating that examinees did not enroll in gapuz or in any other review centers just because they have leakages to offer. if there were indeed offerings of leakages, how come no one reported it even before the recent june exams? and its funny that "witnesses" with no show of faces mushroomed SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER.

    if leakage is a thing of the past, and still is the trend now a days, well i guess its not only the june 2006 passers who will do a retake, but all of those who took nursing since day one.

    ok, back to the main topic, it would surely be a BIG advantage to filipino nurses if our country will be made as one of those many NLCEX sites in asia, but sad to say, we are not yet that equipped to conduct one. we just have to bear with the enormous amounts of bills if we want to work in the US. sad.. and really heavy, but we have no choice, we cant change our system in just a snap of a finger. we cant blame the NCSBN if they did not consider our country, lets admit it, we have a corrupt system, and the NCSBN is just protecting the integrity of their exams. just think of this, if we can manage to trouble our own exams, what more others' exams??
  5. by   ddkted
    Thanks Salonika for the reply. I agree with you that there are those selfish people and that we do not have the monopoly on foreign nurses. I also agree that we cannot afford for the NCLEX exams to be scandalized, and that there are still those who "strive to be credible before the world".

    I will comment however that the NCLEX computer adaptive tests are conducted online in real time by Pearson VUE, an American company. Test centers are but "extension facilities" that provide the examination booths where the computer hardwares are located. The tests are fed online from Pearson VUE offices outside of the Philippines and are only seen and worked on by the examinees. And because of the nature of the exam (CAT), no two tests are alike. Test results are known before the examinee leaves the test center.

    This system will precisely stop those selfish people and prevent the exams to be scandalized. Furthermore it will be a big help to many of our poor kababayans.

    Best regards,

    ddkted
  6. by   RNHawaii34
    Quote from ddkted
    thanks salonika for the reply. i agree with you that there are those selfish people and that we do not have the monopoly on foreign nurses. i also agree that we cannot afford for the nclex exams to be scandalized, and that there are still those who "strive to be credible before the world".

    i will comment however that the nclex computer adaptive tests are conducted online in real time by pearson vue, an american company. test centers are but "extension facilities" that provide the examination booths where the computer hardwares are located. the tests are fed online from pearson vue offices outside of the philippines and are only seen and worked on by the examinees. and because of the nature of the exam (cat), no two tests are alike. test results are known before the examinee leaves the test center.

    this system will precisely stop those selfish people and prevent the exams to be scandalized. furthermore it will be a big help to many of our poor kababayans.

    best regards,

    ddkted
    i read somewhere that the other issue was safety? other than the leak issue....
  7. by   pinoy_guy
    http://www.gmanews.tv/nation.php?sec=5&id=17497

    prc chief: us nursing exam execs arriving

    executives from the us national council licensure examinations (nclex) are scheduled to arrive in the philippines by end-october for discussions on the possible conduct of american nursing exams here.

    chairperson leonor rosero of the professional regulation commission (prc) made the announcement wednesday, adding that the nclex officials' visit should belie claims that the us is concerned over the nursing board exam leakage last june.

    "it's not true the nclex was cancelled. the us commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools (cgfns) has not raised any concern about it, but merely said they want to know about the situation," rosero said in filipino during an interview on dzxl radio.

    she said the nclex executives will attend the convention of the philippine nursing association (pna) in metro manila towards the end of the month.
    let's pray the ncsbn will set up nclex testing centers in the philippines.


    "this shows the nursing leakage has no effect in other countries. even in the us, it is not a big deal. it's only here where people are making a lot of noise about it," she said.
    hmmm.
  8. by   suzanne4
    Quote from ddkted
    Thanks Salonika for the reply. I agree with you that there are those selfish people and that we do not have the monopoly on foreign nurses. I also agree that we cannot afford for the NCLEX exams to be scandalized, and that there are still those who "strive to be credible before the world".

    I will comment however that the NCLEX computer adaptive tests are conducted online in real time by Pearson VUE, an American company. Test centers are but "extension facilities" that provide the examination booths where the computer hardwares are located. The tests are fed online from Pearson VUE offices outside of the Philippines and are only seen and worked on by the examinees. And because of the nature of the exam (CAT), no two tests are alike. Test results are known before the examinee leaves the test center.

    This system will precisely stop those selfish people and prevent the exams to be scandalized. Furthermore it will be a big help to many of our poor kababayans.

    Best regards,

    ddkted
    Sorry, but there have been cheating issues with the NCLEX exam, and they are well known. And test results are never known before the nurse leaves the center. They are adivsed of their results by their BON or Pearson-Vue 48 hours later, provided that the state permits it, not all do. But never at the test site.

    And questions can be memorized and written down when the person leaves the testing center and this has been going on for some time. With CGFNS exam as well.

    The Philippines was turned down in their initial bid several years ago because of security issues, meaning terrorism, etc. Now security issue and corruption have hit the head of the list.

    You are not going to see the NCLEX exam anytime soon given in the Philippines.
  9. by   suzanne4
    Quote from pinoy_guy
    http://www.gmanews.tv/nation.php?sec=5&id=17497

    prc chief: us nursing exam execs arriving

    let's pray the ncsbn will set up nclex testing centers in the philippines.


    hmmm.
    funny how different statements keep coming out, there was just one in august that stated that the exam would not be held there. and by the same person that is making this statement now.

    and the prc is the one making the statement?
  10. by   RNHawaii34
    ummmm...it will be very difficult to write down test questions, with all that camera right in your face? no ways. and if examinee can do that, who is he/she fooling? I totally agree from above that security is an issue why Philippines cannot have an NCLEX-RN testing center.
  11. by   pinoy_guy
    Quote from suzanne4
    Funny how different statements keep coming out, there was just one in August that stated that the exam would not be held there. And by the same person that is making this statement now.

    And the PRC is the one making the statement?
    I know I'm confused!


    just sharing the latest news with the forum people.

    since the PRC head was acting in her official capacity, and she said that the NCLEX officials are visiting our country end-October, I thought Filipino forum members will be happy to hear about this. it was implied that the NCLEX officials are considering putting up an NCLEX center in the Philippines.

    I'm just wondering why she used the term "NCLEX officials."

    previous reports used "NCSBN officials."
  12. by   suzanne4
    Quote from RNHawaii34
    ummmm...it will be very difficult to write down test questions, with all that camera right in your face? no ways. and if examinee can do that, who is he/she fooling? I totally agree from above that security is an issue why Philippines cannot have an NCLEX-RN testing center.
    They have been doing it and writing them down when they leave the test center, this has been well documented and the Board that writes the exam is also well aware of it. And it can be easily done...........each has to remember five questions and the choices for the answers.

    Unfortunately, there are a few review centers in the US that have no started to copy the same idea.

    You memorized enough when you were in school, this is something that is being done and needs to be stopped.
  13. by   suzanne4
    Quote from pinoy_guy
    I know I'm confused!


    just sharing the latest news with the forum people.

    since the PRC head was acting in her official capacity, and she said that the NCLEX officials are visiting our country end-October, I thought Filipino forum members will be happy to hear about this. it was implied that the NCLEX officials are considering putting up an NCLEX center in the Philippines.

    I'm just wondering why she used the term "NCLEX officials."

    previous reports used "NCSBN officials."
    Think back to the posting that I beleive you made in August on the samer topic. It was stated then, that the Philippines did not make it into the next batch of countries to hold the exam.

    They made a visit in April, they do not make several per year related specifically to approving a site.
  14. by   pinoy_guy
    Quote from suzanne4
    . . . that the Philippines did not make it into the next batch of countries to hold the exam.

    They made a visit in April, they do not make several per year related specifically to approving a site.
    argh.

    the issues are confusing enough without these officials adding to the mess by making such statements.

    these statements sound good in the news...but can cause a lot of heartbreak.

    sigh.

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