Bad Flu Shot? - page 2
Two days ago I went to employee health after my shift to get my annual flu shot. The initial stick didn't hurt but when the nurse pushed the plunger I felt pain like never before. I went home, and a... Read More
0Dec 18, '08 by lamazeteacherThere may be other reasons why you won't allow it.........one of which could be that you haven't had enough education about it. Go to the CDC's website with your concern. They'll make sure to give you correct information that isn't "anecdotal" (based on just a few people's tales which may not be correct).
0Nov 13, '10 by EmilyCLPNI have also received a flu shot a little over a month ago. Seemed the placement was fine, I had no pain when I was injected, but now I cannot raise my arm over shoulder level, cannot put my left arm behind my back, cannot cross my body with my left arm, and cannot bear weight on the left arm because it is so painful that my elbow buckles. And as of this morning I have had the pain not only in my deltoid, but into the shoulder and the back of my neck on the left side. I dealt with people with frozen shoulder syndrome and to me my symptoms do not seem to point to frozen shoulder syndrome. Told the family doctor about this twice, and both times I was told to use warm compresses and stop "babying" it. Well sorry, I am a nurse, who definitely works a lot harder than any doctor any day of the week, and I do a lot of lifting patients, so I do not have the time or ability to baby my arm. If anyone has any ideas what I can do to make the doctors listen to me I am all ears. I plan to call my rheumatologist on Monday (I have psoriatic arthritis, which is an autoimmune disorder, and other nurses have told me that autoimmune disorders compound the problem) and see if he is able to give me any better relief from this.
0Nov 14, '10 by lamazeteacherQuote from emilyclpnyour doctor may have taken the mention that you "cannot" move your arm to various directions, as an exaggeration, as it seems that you could move it and suffer more pain..... he/she needed to be reminded of your autoimmune disease at the time you discuss such an aberration in post injection pain. you also might have added an (otc) anti inflammatory oral medication to the warm compress, to allay that response. i find seed filled pacs that you microwave, types of warm compresses. (many, many years ago we used oatmeal or mustard filled cloths.)i have also received a flu shot a little over a month ago. seemed the placement was fine, i had no pain when i was injected, but now i cannot raise my arm over shoulder level, cannot put my left arm behind my back, cannot cross my body with my left arm, and cannot bear weight on the left arm because it is so painful that my elbow buckles. and as of this morning i have had the pain not only in my deltoid, but into the shoulder and the back of my neck on the left side. i dealt with people with frozen shoulder syndrome and to me my symptoms do not seem to point to frozen shoulder syndrome.
after a month, one would expect the reactive pain following an injection, to have receded even in a person with an autoimmune disease...... if you didn't use the recommended warm (not hot) packs, it could be that continuing soft tissue inflammation is occurring, and possibly a walled off infection (? from tainted vaccine - probably not, or more people who received injections with that lot# of the vaccine, would have complained of the same increasing pain. you didn't mention how long after the injection, your pain increased, what facility administered the vaccine - hospital, clinic, doctor's office, etc. or if you had similar more severe reactions to former flu shots given over the years, or if you might have an exacerbation of your psoriatic arthritis.
the cdc really wants to hear about reactions such as yours. when communicating with them in that regard, please mention the make and lot number which should be on the copy of the consent form that your signed in order to get the vaccine. pharmacists don't seem to realize that you must receive that, but if you call the place where you were given the vaccination, with the date and time of your visit, a rough estimate of what you were given might be obtained. (you don't need to go into "chapter and verse" about your s/s, as that might color the tone of the response you receive from staff.) use language you'd use when reporting as patient's reaction
told the family doctor about this twice, and both times i was told to use warm compresses and stop "babying" it. well sorry, i am a nurse, who definitely works a lot harder than any doctor any day of the week, and i do a lot of lifting patients, so i do not have the time or ability to baby my arm. if anyone has any ideas what i can do to make the doctors listen to me i am all ears. i plan to call my rheumatologist on monday (i have psoriatic arthritis, which is an autoimmune disorder, and other nurses have told me that autoimmune disorders compound the problem) and see if he is able to give me any better relief from this.
if in the future, you comment "when i lift patients from their bed to the chair, i have more pain", (of course if the patient is over 150 pounds and cannot provide assist, the hoyer should always be used.) that vision should make your healthcare provider see that you use your extremities for work, more than the average person. it is recommended that people massage and exercise the arm receiving the injection, immediately following the shot for the rest of the day.
it's definitely a heavy burden to have a chronic disease, as you do. my niece suffers from that, too so i know how it impinges on your life. she is an opera singer, and when performing in "pirates of penzance", she had to hop from a stool to the ground, wincing as she touched down, singing! we are also show givers, hiding our personal pain from those watching us. as a senior, i had the high dose vaccine and must say the post injection pain was more severe than i recall having with previous flu shots, yet i had expected that which could have the "power of suggestion". i applied my seed filled microwaved pack overnight, which helped it by morning, for several nights.
the extension of your pain to your shoulders and back is probably the result of radiation of the pain and continuing contracted muscles that occur when pain is happening nearby, much as one gets for a week or 2 after horsebackriding for the first time in a long while. i would think that massage and physical therapy treatments using the new electrostimulus equipment would help that. don't hesitate to ask for that, as many doctors haven't their own experience receiving pt. cost saving needs to be put aside, to prevent further damage (and expense) to your body. also the employee health nurse there, might advise your supervfisor(s) that you have less physical activity temporarily.
0Dec 14, '10 by Myarmhurtstooi found this site while researching my problem...which is the same as posted here. just thought i'd add my experience with the issue...over three months now and arm still hurts although it seems to be getting a little bit better finally. from a 9 to maybe a 6 or 7 on the pain scale.
wow most of these comments are very familiar to me. my detailed experience is chronicle on the following thread:
my symptoms mirror most everyone else’s…1) shot high up so much so that we talked about it for days after the shot 2) mine started hurting that evening, shot given around 3:30 pm 3) pharmacy came to our workplace and administered shot 4) pain doing all the things everyone mentioned with the most painful when trying to pull off a tight fitting garment over my head…just can’t do it even now (shot given nine weeks ago) 5) cannot sleep on left side (except when i took the steroids, have taken two medrol paks and one 10 day course…doc said i can’t have any more) 6) had initial numbness in my index & middle finger and some in my thumb, now just sorta comes and goes but not so much and 7) my doc was not aware of this being a problem and initially attributed it to other things, however, after hearing my explanations, what i found in my research, and the fact that he’s known me for many years and believes i’m not crazy has asked me to gather the info i have found for him…much to my relief and amazement.
in my hours of research i have found some information that was helpful. for one the vaers site to report adverse events listed earlier in this post. i also was able to download adverse event data for the last two years…a ton of info applying some filters found tons of reports of this type of reaction. so it is not new.
also found this thread on another site with info that was reported in 2007 and even gave the condition a name: shoulder injury related to vaccine administration, or sirva. yes there is even an acronym for this condition:
as well as this hhs power point presentation from last summer where the last two pages discuss the above published info as well as thoughts on cause, treatment, etc.:
and last this article that discusses the findings and recommendations in detail. not from any gov’t related side but after finding all the other info, i thought the article appeared credible:
hope some of this helps. based on what i’ve gone through i truly believe it is important for everyone to file a vaers report of adverse event and talk about this so that more is done in evaluating the cause(s) and prevention of this issue. i look forward to reading your updates. and please update even if the pain goes away…it is helpful to us still hurting to read about those that have recovered…gives us hope! :-d