Military Nursing Questions Answered - page 11
Hello. I have seen many questions posted about the recruiting, the military, and future military experiences, I wanted to start a Q & A forum where you can ask questions related to the military from... Read More
Nov 8, '12 by navyman7Sarahmay:
If family is the most important thing to you, like it is me, then don't join. The Navy ALWAYS takes priority. They will tell you that they will work with you and all that, but for the most part they fall way short. (I would be willing to chat offline about this in more detail if you would like, send me a PM). I always tell people if I was single the Navy would be great and I could put up with all that the Navy makes me do. However being married and with kids, I wouldn't do this again. Many, many of my married with kids friends (who haven't been in for 10+ years feel the same).
As for recruiters, BEWARE! Like I have said over and over here, they are very helpful and will give you tons of info, but often times they leave out the important details that make a HUGE difference. If you are wanting to care for those who have served, you can always work as a civilian in a military facility or the VA. Both are great places to work. I have done both. Good luck.
Nov 14, '12 by sarahmayyyNavyMan7: I would love to chat more about this. I am getting a lot of different feedback and I am really interested in your take. I think I "friended" you, but I don't know how to PM. Let me know if you can figure it out.
Nov 25, '12 by kr681683I am graduating from nursing school this May and looking to get into either the Air Force or the Navy. I was wondering if you had any incite into the major differences. Also I don't want to stay and do the standard nursing in a standard hospital, I understand I have to pay my dues but and was wondering how one would become a part of a FRSS. One of my good friends was a corpsman, just got out after serving 6 years and says he thinks it's what I'd love. I'm really just starting looking into all of this, I just feel like I want to do more for my country and the soldiers who serve it. Any input would be greatly appreciated I feel very naive and when reading a lot of these posts it almost feels like they are in a different language. I want to try to get an accurate picture of what I'd be signing up for.
Nov 27, '12 by navyman7KR681683-
Take a look at some of the earlier posts posted in this forum. Someone has asked about the FRSS here and there are some answers already.
I can understand your apprehension regarding everything that the military is. If you could post some of your questions here then we can help clear some things up. I can't speak about the Air Force, but read through these posts and it should give you some info regarding the Navy.
Nov 29, '12 by yourstrulyjmcHi Navyman7,
I just got off the phone with a Navy recruiter. I gave some general information (height, weight, what school I graduated from, etc.). I didn't know if I was supposed to ask any other questions. He gave me the phone numbers to an HMC and another Commander. Do I contact them today? Or should I give it another day? The recruiter told me he would be forwarding my information to someone and he took my cell phone number. Do I just wait for now?
Sorry if these sound like silly questions, but I'm very new to all this. I just want to do what's best & most professional to increase my chances of getting enlisted.
Currently, I do meet the requirements they have listed online, but my understanding is that it is very competitive to get in. My GPA was a 3.31, not horrible but not the best either. Wondering if that would hinder me... I'm extremely interesting in Critical Care and Emergency medicine.
Thanks very much in advance.Last edit by yourstrulyjmc on Nov 29, '12
Nov 30, '12 by navyman7yours truly jmc: Why does the recruiter want you to call the Chief and the CDR? Are they for phone interviews? I would give them a day or two, and call mid morning or mid afternoon. Most people have been caught up with their daily to do's by then.
Regarding your cell phone, the recruiter who spoke to you was he a health care recruiter? If not then the recruiter may be forwarding your info to a health care recruiter. If this is also the case, then the purpose of calling the HMC and CDR may to give you an opportunity to ask health care people questions directly.
Sorry this isn't more helpful, we need more info to really help out. When you get more clarity regarding all this, then come back here for more questions. We may be of more help then. Good Luck.
Dec 2, '12 by MedSurgRN14hi Navyman7, thanks for starting this thread! I've been following it and its been really interesting to read. I've never considered joining the navy before but its becoming more of a possibility (definitely reqs more research). I wanted to ask-- is it difficult for navy nurses to get civilian jobs after they leave the navy? I would think that it would make one more competitive, but I have no experience in the area. If you did post this elsewhere, please just link me! Thanks again for all your help.
Dec 3, '12 by navyman7missacheung: I have known many navy nurses who have left the navy and have found jobs right away. However these are some stellar nurses. I am sure that the lazy nurses will have a hard time finding work, they can only fool someone for so long. Plus their evaluations will follow them where ever they go. So far from what I have seen there doesn't seem to be a problem for most good nurses finding work. It just depends on the kind of job they are looking for.
With that said, the military nurse has an advantage when it comes to finding work in the civilian world. Most civilians have no idea what kind of nursing care we actually do. Most think that all we deal with are combat injuries, traumatic brain injuries, etc. We do have that, but it's not are bread and butter. We have similar patient loads as many hospitals throughout the country. Use that to your advantage if you can. Hope this helps a little.
Dec 4, '12 by danigirlRNHi navyman7,
I've been reading your thread and found it very interesting and informative. I've been a nurse for about 2.5 years and I'm considering joining the Navy. I have a year experience in med-tele, a year in adult neuro-surgical ICU, and I currently work in a pediatric trauma-surgical ICU which is where I stay until I graduate or decide to join. I am currently going through a FNP master's program. However, I realized working with the pediatric population is my passion and I hope to do so in the NP role. I know the Navy has a pediatric specialty. My questions is how likely is it that I would get an APN position in pediatrics? Would I be better off changing my degree to a PNP or would the FNP qualify as it does in the civilian world? Also, would it be better to finish my degree before joining? I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons of joining and going where I want with my career. Any suggestions?
Dec 4, '12 by navyman7danigirl, First of all I would say finish your degree first so that the Navy won't become a hinderance to you while you finish school. Secondly I wish I was more learned in the ways of APN but I am not, except for CRNA. I know the Navy utilizes some FNP's but I am not sure in what kind of setting they normally are in. I have seen some NP's work with the various teams that work in the ICU but they don't generally do too much in the unit. As for PNP I have no idea. Your best bet would be to work with a health care recruiter when you are finished with school and see if he can get you in contact with a PNP if the Navy has any. I wouldn't do any kind of paper until you speak to one first otherwise you could end up getting a bad deal. I wish I knew more regarding NP's in general but I am limited in this area, sorry I couldn't be of more help. Good luck.
Dec 5, '12 by MedSurgRN14Hi navyman7, thanks for your prompt and informative response. It was very helpful! I'll keep it in mind as I figure out what I want to do in regards to my career and the navy.
Dec 5, '12 by Dassit82, BSNNavyman7: I've JUST finished reading this thread in its entirety: took me all day at the office - so much for work, haha. Thank you so much for posting this topic - it has answered several questions I've had, even though I have spoken with a recruiter many times. The first time I spoke with a recruiter was in the Spring of 2012. I was in the middle of applying to Accelerated. The recruiter gave me a lot of valuable information regarding the NCP, but said to get back in touch with her once I get an acceptance letter from the school I want to attend. I got an acceptance letter from Drexel (11-month Acclerated BSN program) in August 2012. It is now December and I'm waiting to hear back from UPenn (18-month Accelerated BSN program), which will be the first week of February. I will make my immediate decision at that point of which school's program I want to go with. At that point, I will contact the recruiter to start the application process. My program will start in either April or June 2013 and I will be have obtained my BSN by March or December 2014. How will the application process for the Navy Nurse Candidate Program be ready by the time I start one of these programs? There is a $1,000 monthly stipend for the time I'm in school and a $5,000 disbursement at the beginning and then again 6-months later. From the looks of it, the application process won't be done until I'm well near the end of my schooling and then it will make the disbursements and stipends obsolete! Does this mean I would have to go the DA route? I guess I could ask my recruiter this same question, which I will, but I'm posing this question to all of you since you're not holding back any secrets and you've been through it all!I'm really excited about this route. I live in NJ and would not mind being shipped off to even San Diego, but I understand the Navy wants to send money - Bethesda is 2 hours away from me and Norfolk is 5 AND I have a ton of family there, so that would be cool. Finally, what would you say would be the major things that a recruiter leaves out when speaking with an interested potential candidate?
Dec 5, '12 by navyman7Dassit 82:
I appreciate that you read this thread in it's entirety. I hope it helped.
In short I would say, Yes the DA route would probably be the best financial option. You would lose a lot of money if you went with the NCP route and would incur a lot more time on your contract. As for your duty station, tell the recruiter where you want to go. Yes the Navy wants to save money but they need nurses at every hospital not just the east coast. Go for San Diego if you want it.
Regarding what the recruiter leaves out...They leave out all the little details that makes the Navy great or horrible.
I will try and be objective as I list the many things that people have issues with.
-Working long hours with out any kind of compensation, payback, or overtime. Working call without any kind of compensation or consideration to the hours you've just worked.
-Endless hours/days of pointless training that has no bearing on your job, again on your days off most of the time (General Military Training-GMT's, NKO "training", Deplolyment Training, etc).
-Sometimes no say as to where you work.
-Moving every few years, very few exceptions to this. Sometimes to underdesirable locations.
-Very difficult taking vacation
-Having to work under nurses in supervisory positions who haven't worked at the bedside in years. Also having to do what they say despite their inexperience in a certain area. (I know this happens in the civilian world too, but at least you can work with HR/Unions if someone isn't safe or if they are clueless. Not the case in the military, you do what they say or its insubordination.)
-The more experieced you become and more senior in rank you become the farther away from the bedside that you become, very little exceptions to this.
-Working in your uniform at the bedside, not all work in their uniforms but many do (the exceptions are; ED, OR, ICU)
-The military health care system (for you). Having to go to appointments in uniform. Having to go to the hospital sickcall if you are sick. Can't just call in and say that you are sick.
-Can be hard on families, family relationships.
-opportunity for more school with a variable payback length and possible increase in deployments.
-getting to serve your country and those who help keep us safe
-job security , health benefits, steady paycheck, decent retirement at 20yrs.
-meeting new people from all over the world, making great friends
-deployments, unique job training and experiences
-opportunity for leadership roles, but you move away from the bedside
-frequent moves, living in good/bad places
-decent pay as a bedside nurse
-opportunity for more school with a variable payback length and possible increase in deployments.
I am sure that many people have many more good/bad experiences than this but this is what I could come up with on short notice. Hope this helps.