# Pennsylvania Laws

1. I have a question on the law of most Pennsylvania nursing homes. The question is, Is their a law where their is a certain time frame as of the earliest you can start getting residents out of bed? I had heard that it is at 6 am. I don't really have a certain answer on that.We are in a heated debate between the 11-7 shift and the 7-3 shift. The 7-3 shift thinks we should get 2 residents up before we go home( 2 of their choosing) now this is a thirty bed floor and they only have to get 17 out of the thirty up. Now the 11-7 shift is composed of one CNA and one LPN who does rounds with the CNA. The 7-3 shift is composed of three CNA and an LPN. The LPN doesn't do primary care but the 11-7 shift does do two showers a night which then means that the 7-3 staff only has to do 15 residents. Now if my math is correct that is five to a CNA to get up. Now The arguement the 11-7 staff is complaining about is that to do the showers we would have to get the other residents up at between 5 and 5:30 in the am. In which from then until after breakfast they will not be toileted or be able to eat or drink anything because the kitchen has locked all the food behind a cage for the shift. Also The residents have not changed or the staff has not changed in over 6 months. If they did it fine 6 months ago then why is it a problem now. The only idea I can come up with is because the 11-7 staff on the upstairs of 50 beds has to get 12 people up. Their difference to us is they have 44 residents that need assistance to our twenty. They also have 2 CNAs and 1 LPN on the floor. If anyone can give me some more reasons for defending this problem please let me know.

John
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