Associate Degree Nurses

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Specializes in MICU.

hi eveyone,

i started my precetorship today at amc in the icu and i was extremely excited. i learned so much and really enjoyed every minute. my preceptor introduced me to the nurse manager today and she already gave a good review of my progress. i told the nurse manager that i was very interested in icu...and then she asked me which school i attended and i replied. she looked at me straight in the face and said that amc is trying to get away from hiring adn's and i was completely crushed :o. i feel like why are there so many schools in georgia that offer adn's and a lot of the hospitals are trying to phase out adn's. one good thing she said was i can still apply and she might consider hiring me b/c i did my preceptorship in the icu. i went home so discouraged and thinking of how much adn's are at a disadvantage despite the fact that we too are rn's!!!

thanks for listening just needed to get this off my chest.

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Specializes in Neuro ICU.

I am so sorry to hear/read of your experience. I am also an ADN student and hope not to have this issue. I have a BBA in marketing and an MBA, but it probably won't matter as a new nurse though. I am hoping to relocate to ATL this summer and find a job. Try to think positive and look on the bright side of things. At least the nurse manager will consider you for a position; put your best foot forward during your preceptroship and be eager to learn and hopefully you'll get a position. You can do it, you'll get a great job that you love and that loves you :)

Sending positive thoughts to uplift your spirits :)

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I went to AMC website, and they are still hiring ADN's. Some of the positions u do need your BSN, and some U dont. I went to a few hospital websites, in this is true at all. For, the most part, when it comes to ADN, and BSN, it usually makes the most diff , when you go into management. Don't ever let anyone discourage you. I don't know why nurses, are always doing that to each other. It's always a plus to get as much education as you can, but just because you have more, doesn't always mean you know more!!!:smiley_ab

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Specializes in Pediatric Intensive Care, Urgent Care.

"Don't ever let anyone discourage you. I don't know why nurses, are always doing that to each other."

thats discouraging i'm sure...but the nurse manager wasn't doing anything to discouraging you...she simply was stating a hospital policy which she obviously is not in total support of it cause she's willing to consider hiring you anyway. If that policy was rock solid was really the case you wouldn't have even gotten the preceptorship in the ICU as preceptorships are usually long interviews... So in my book...your half way there...keep up the good work! :smokin:

Good Luck,

Mex

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Specializes in Pediatric Intensive Care, Urgent Care.
Don't ever let anyone discourage you. I don't know why nurses, are always doing that to each other.

thats discouraging i'm sure...but the nurse manager wasn't doing anything to discouraging you...she simply was stating a hospital policy which she obviously is not in total support of it cause she's willing to consider hiring you anyway. If that policy was rock solid and that was really the case you wouldn't have even gotten the preceptorship in the ICU as preceptorships are usually long interviews... So in my book...your half way there...keep up the good work! :smokin:

Good Luck,

Mex

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thats discouraging i'm sure...but the nurse manager wasn't doing anything to discouraging you...she simply was stating a hospital policy which she obviously is not in total support of it cause she's willing to consider hiring you anyway. If that policy was rock solid and that was really the case you wouldn't have even gotten the preceptorship in the ICU as preceptorships are usually long interviews... So in my book...your half way there...keep up the good work! :smokin:

Good Luck,

Mex

It obviously isn't hospital policy, if she is considering hiring her. Also, if it's hospital policy, why would there be positions, on the AMC web site, for RN's, ALL, the positions would state RN BSN ONLY!!!! Lastly, if the nurse manager wasn't trying to be negative or discouraging towards ADN nurses, why would she say that in the first place. The nurse manager, knew, she was doing her preceptor ship there in the ICU, and that her skills were good, and this would be a nurse she could one day hire. So, Y else does she need to say anything about AMC, getting away from hiring ADN's. Go figure!!:bugeyes:

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Maybe, I should not have said I don't know why nurses are always doing that to each other. So let me rephrase: I don't know why SOME nurses, SOMETIMES do that to each other. I hope this is a better statement. I know it's a true statement, being that I've gone through it myself, with those that like to feel as if that are superior over others, and what you've worked so hard for is nothing compared to what they have!!

This maybe another rant for another time, LOL. But i'm sure many know what i'm talking about.

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May I suggest that you consider getting your BSN. Even if you could tell the hiring manager in the ICU that you don't plan on stopping your education at the ADN level that would help you out as well with getting your foot in the door.

The bottom line is that nursing is evolving to include higher levels of education for entry level nursing positions. The DNP program was established so eventually the entry level degree needed to become a nurse practitioner is a doctorate and no longer a masters degree. Don't limit yourself by only getting an ADN. Definitely a great starting point to get started but continue your education. It is false to think that you only need a BSN if you want to go into management. Most job opportunities, whether it is a charge nurse position, etc. will be looking for nurses with BSN degrees. Most hospitals will choose a nurse with a BSN degree over an ADN degree with the same amount of experience every time, especially in a tight job market like we have in Atlanta.

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Specializes in MICU.
May I suggest that you consider getting your BSN. Even if you could tell the hiring manager in the ICU that you don't plan on stopping your education at the ADN level that would help you out as well with getting your foot in the door.

The bottom line is that nursing is evolving to include higher levels of education for entry level nursing positions. The DNP program was established so eventually the entry level degree needed to become a nurse practitioner is a doctorate and no longer a masters degree. Don't limit yourself by only getting an ADN. Definitely a great starting point to get started but continue your education. It is false to think that you only need a BSN if you want to go into management. Most job opportunities, whether it is a charge nurse position, etc. will be looking for nurses with BSN degrees. Most hospitals will choose a nurse with a BSN degree over an ADN degree with the same amount of experience every time, especially in a tight job market like we have in Atlanta.

I definately plan on continuing my education....I originally started school with the intention of getting my BSN..but we all know life happens...so I decided to get my Associate Degree with hopes of bridging over to my BSN...I can work and got to school and hopefully get a hospital to pay for it. As far as managerial postions go..the nurse manager herself is an Associate degree nurse. I really don't think that she is being "mean" by saying they only hire BSN's...I think that that is a new hosptial policy. I would really love to work in the ICU...if not I just want to get my foot in the door. Thanks to everyone for posting your comments....they really are appreciated!!!:yeah::yeah:

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I definately plan on continuing my education....I originally started school with the intention of getting my BSN..but we all know life happens...so I decided to get my Associate Degree with hopes of bridging over to my BSN...I can work and got to school and hopefully get a hospital to pay for it. As far as managerial postions go..the nurse manager herself is an Associate degree nurse. I really don't think that she is being "mean" by saying they only hire BSN's...I think that that is a new hosptial policy. I would really love to work in the ICU...if not I just want to get my foot in the door. Thanks to everyone for posting your comments....they really are appreciated!!!:yeah::yeah:

Good plan!! Getting a hospital to pay for continuing education is definitely the way to go! Just keep at it and know all your hard work will pay off!! If we are talking about the same hiring manager for the ICU at AMC, then she is a GA Baptist graduate from back in the day when it was an associate program? I hear great things about the ICU at AMC with all the traumas, etc. Keep us posted.

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Specializes in Operating Room, Ortho, Neuro, Trauma.

I am a ADN RN 2B, May 09 also and work in ICU as a Tech, in Atlanta. They do hire ADN's but ANY RN-whether BSN or ADN do not just get the job. They have to go through a rigorous preceptorship (like clinical all over-except more intense and specialized). It is not based on what you know when you graduate it is how well you can apply what you know and how well you can pick up specialized skills during this intense training and any specialty for that matter. And my nurse manager for 3 ICU units is a ADN.

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