So many questions and so little time to decide...

  1. 0 Hello everyone,

    Even though it says I recently joined, I have been a regular on this site for the past 3 months or so... I wanted to make sure Nursing is something I really wanted to do before I took that next step to no social life... Now I have a bunch of questions and people don't want to answer in-person or over the phone (too busy I guess)... BTW I'm 27, Black, Male, and Single...

    As much as I want be a nurse... I have a few obstacles in my way... I have a cum GPA of 2.8... The only prereq's I have is Eng 1 & 2 (C and B)... Pysch 1 (C)... Bio (C)... Chem(A)... Calculus (B)... As you can see I don't have a strong GPA (not that it was tough, but because I didn't take school serious when I was 19)... Where I stay all the ADN programs have a 3 year wait list or I can choose from a shady nursing program?? BSN is also an option, but more on this later... I was thinking about going to school in NYC... It's where I really want to be and I'm also a veteran with around 2 semesters left of my Post 9/11 GI Bill, which not only pays 100% tuition, but also books and a monthly stipend (in NYC its $2,900)... Not bad aye???

    My problem is I talked to a couple CUNY programs to inquire about their ADN programs... They said I would need around a 3.3 on the pre req courses... I could retake one course and my math wouldn't transfer since it's only a 3 credit course from my previous school... So, in theory I need to get an A in A&P, an A in a Math Course, retake Psych and get an A... To round out my GPA to a 3.5... Sounds good, but putting a lot of stock into something that's NOT guarenteed has never been my thing... I don't mind going into a BSN program as long as I know I can get in and pay for it passed a full year... I would need a least 7 semesters to finish my BSN (or 6 if I don't need to retake those pre req's)...

    So my questions to you guys and gals are... What route seems the most reasonable??? What are my options?? As a black male are there scholarships out there for me??? How likely is it that I can get into a program within the next semester I attend school??? Is NYC a good option for school?? For ADN or BSN?? Does it matter what school I attend if an ADN is an ADN and a BSN is a BSN??? FYI: I can even attend NYU (especially this Spring 13), but how likely is it that I'll be able to pay for 2 extra years?? Or even get into the Nursing Program with such a terrible GPA???

    Please help... Everyone I've talked to in the career field hasn't been helpful (as far as the people I personally know)... Any advice is good advice... I have thick skin...

    Thanks!!!
  2. Visit  MatteyIce profile page

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    Joined Oct '12; Posts: 15; Likes: 3.

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  3. Visit  classicdame profile page
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    the people you need to talk to are the school advisors. We have no way of knowing what options are available to students specifically. Good luck on your search!
  4. Visit  saldridge profile page
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    If you have to get loans there is a loan forgiveness progran for RN's.
  5. Visit  MatteyIce profile page
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    Quote from classicdame
    the people you need to talk to are the school advisors. We have no way of knowing what options are available to students specifically. Good luck on your search!
    Yea I know... But I have to set up an phone appointment which is extremely hard when you don't live in the city where the college is... Add that to the fact it's a NYC school and they aren't really "helpful" for lack of a better word... I know I put a lot of information in my original post, but basically I just want to know what people think the easiest route to take without a lot of risk...

    Also, there seems to be Nursing Programs outside of the regular Community Colleges and 4 year Institutions... Do you recommend these type of programs???
  6. Visit  MatteyIce profile page
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    Quote from saldridge
    If you have to get loans there is a loan forgiveness progran for RN's.
    But isn't this exclusive to certain jobs and companies???
  7. Visit  saldridge profile page
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    If I remember correctly you have to work for a non profit organization or a teaching facility. I work for Shands Jacksonville which is a teaching hospital.
  8. Visit  MatteyIce profile page
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    Quote from saldridge
    If I remember correctly you have to work for a non profit organization or a teaching facility. I work for Shands Jacksonville which is a teaching hospital.
    Thank-you... I will look this up shortly...
  9. Visit  Morganalefey profile page
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    I just googled "scholarships for black males" and a ton of links pop up. You could also google "scholarships for veterans" and see what you get, as well.

    It might be a good idea to post on the NY board, here on AN, to see what those nurses think about ADN vs BSN. They can also give you a good idea what the job market is like there

    I, personally, have an ADN, but sort of wish I had sucked it up and gone the extra year for a BSN.

    Before I applied for nursing school, I retook a few pre-req's, because, like you, I didn't take it seriously at 19. I was dedicated, spent a lot of time studying, and got into nursing school w/a 4.0GPA. I have no doubt that you are capable of doing it as well! I know retaking classes is a pain, and it slows down your entry, but I still found it to be the most practical way for me to get what I wanted.

    Best of luck to you
  10. Visit  MatteyIce profile page
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    Quote from Morganalefey
    I just googled "scholarships for black males" and a ton of links pop up. You could also google "scholarships for veterans" and see what you get, as well.

    It might be a good idea to post on the NY board, here on AN, to see what those nurses think about ADN vs BSN. They can also give you a good idea what the job market is like there

    I, personally, have an ADN, but sort of wish I had sucked it up and gone the extra year for a BSN.

    Before I applied for nursing school, I retook a few pre-req's, because, like you, I didn't take it seriously at 19. I was dedicated, spent a lot of time studying, and got into nursing school w/a 4.0GPA. I have no doubt that you are capable of doing it as well! I know retaking classes is a pain, and it slows down your entry, but I still found it to be the most practical way for me to get what I wanted.

    Best of luck to you
    Thank you so much... I don't think you understand how much this helped me and mean to me... I took your advice went to the New York section and did a little more research found out that Pace University (which has a top 80 Nursing school) has late admission (December 1) for Spring 2013... Veterans have their application fee waived... AND 50% off of tuition... I almost had a heart attack looking at all this... LOL... Thanks so much... Of course taking pre-req's is going to be much easier now, I don't have to rush to try to get into Nursing School... Plus it's in NYC!!!
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  11. Visit  HouTx profile page
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    Beware of commercial (for-profit) schools. They will offer endless enticements (like that 50% off "sale" on tuition) because their entire focus is on maximizing recruitment in order to capture all the $ they can. They usually have very high-pressure tactics to get you to sign on the dotted line & will nag/harass if you are hesitant. They really don't care if students actually complete the program... after all, they already have the $. Their tuition is also sky-high in comparison to traditional schools - that's why they can have the periodic 'sales'.... LOL.

    As an nurse educator, I can also assure you that commercial schools are considered to be an academic "ghetto" for teachers. They do not provide a true academic environment that fosters professional career growth and development. Instead, they rely on 'temps' (adjunct faculty) with questionable credentials that would not be qualified to teach in traditional programs.
  12. Visit  KelRN215 profile page
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    Quote from saldridge
    If I remember correctly you have to work for a non profit organization or a teaching facility. I work for Shands Jacksonville which is a teaching hospital.
    It depends what loan program you go through.

    Federally, Perkins Loans are forgiveable for all nurses. Federal Nursing loans are only forgiveable if you work in a "Health Professional Shortage Area". Private loans are not forgiveable for nurses. I have only ever worked for non-profits and spent the first 4 1/2 years of my career in an academic medical center... I have been paying student loans for the past 5 years and will be paying them for the next 5 at least.
  13. Visit  MatteyIce profile page
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    Quote from HouTx
    Beware of commercial (for-profit) schools. They will offer endless enticements (like that 50% off "sale" on tuition) because their entire focus is on maximizing recruitment in order to capture all the $ they can. They usually have very high-pressure tactics to get you to sign on the dotted line & will nag/harass if you are hesitant. They really don't care if students actually complete the program... after all, they already have the $. Their tuition is also sky-high in comparison to traditional schools - that's why they can have the periodic 'sales'.... LOL.

    As an nurse educator, I can also assure you that commercial schools are considered to be an academic "ghetto" for teachers. They do not provide a true academic environment that fosters professional career growth and development. Instead, they rely on 'temps' (adjunct faculty) with questionable credentials that would not be qualified to teach in traditional programs.
    Every Private Institution is for profit... No?? From NYU and Columbia to Howard University and Georgetown... Pace is an actual traditional unversity though... Ranked in US News rankings...

    Or were you replying to my OP asking about those programs with no wait lists??? The 2 years joints that may or may not have accreditation??? The 50% off of tuition is exclusively for Veterans so it isn't a sale tatic (maybe the school is probably getting some type of federal funding for it idk...)

    Since you are a Nursing Educator, my cousin felt the need to go to one of these nursing schools without a accreditation... Her reason RN's at her job went there (a Nursing Home) and they had no problem finding a job... What you think??? I think is pointless if you plan on leaving the area...


    Thanks for the information though!!!
  14. Visit  gatoraims RN profile page
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    I did not read all the replies. I think you are in a good postion for scholarships. My school offers scholarships for vets, male nurses, and minorites. If your heart is in nursing go for it. Work your butt off use your GI bill to complete your pre-reqs and retake those that will help you obtain the needed GPA. Then apply for nursing school and Aid at the same time. I think you being a vet allows you to access to a number of grants. I would wait on any loans until you know what you might get in grants and scholarships.

    I would NOT go to those for-profit schools that make you spend a small fortune. A few friends of mine have been burned going that rounte now that they want to advance their degree.

    Would going the LPN-RN route be an opition. Usually the GPA is less in a bridge program, not much less but it might allow for more comfort.

    I know nothing about NYC. I am a small town girl. Wish I could help you there.

    Good luck!


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