Question re: Chem as a pre-req for A&P..please help!

Ortho_RN · Jan 22, 2002

You might hit a few areas that involve a lil more chemistry.. But our professor (and I am just speaking for me) didn't concentrate on the chemistry... You need to know the basics which you get out of a basic chem class, but the really indepth stuff is left for med school majors... I HATED chemistry, thought it was useless.... But its just one of those things ya have to do :)

Hope this helps or destresses you a bit

essarge · Jan 22, 2002

Ditto on the hating chemistry part. I really hated it, but you are right, you do what you gotta do!!! Our A&P was basically a review of the things that we learned in chemistry, but ony lasted a couple of chapters in A&P I. After that there was very little chemistry.

wannanurse · Jan 22, 2002

Wow. Chem is not a pre req here for AP. Although we are going through the chem chapter and it is a killer. I am remeber some stuff from high school chem. In her lectures she is only talking about what we will needed to know for the class. That stuff is pretty basic. Her quizs on the other hand revole around all of it.

colleen10 · Jan 22, 2002

UGGGHHHHH, Chem, Pitooey,

I haven't had Nursing A&P but I have had pretty concentrated bio. and bi.sci. courses related to anatomy. If I recall my experience correctly there wasn't a whole lot of chem involved but when there was my teachers would always explain the chemical processes specifically in relation to the particular organ or system we were learning. If you understood the basics like osmosis, what water is, etc. you were set.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You could check out the the syllabus / course description for the Chem 101 class and see how it compares to the Chem. 100 class. See if you're missing much.

When I took chem our chem 100 and 101 were essentially the same class and taught the same material but the 100 level was for people who hadn't had chem in a while or didn't understand it very well so the material was taught at a slower pace and the basics were really concentrated on. It would be nice for you if this held true where you attend school.

Good Luck and I really wouldn't worry about it too much.

CountrifiedRN · Jan 22, 2002

Marci,

From what I remember of my Physiology class (at my college, Anatomy and Phys. were seperate classes), the chemistry was pretty basic.

The thing that I would worry about is whether or not the nursing program at your school will accept the Chem 100. Is Chemistry 101 a pre-req for the nursing program as well? If it is, it might prevent you from starting the program if you don't take it.

If not, it is probably best to get the ok in writing from the A&P instructor to take the class with out taking the Chem 101 course. That way, if any problems arise later, you will have a written document saying that your A&P course is valid. (That is, if the instructor has the power to do that for you)

Just a thought.

Good luck!

mario_ragucci · Jan 23, 2002

I took chemistry before A&P (CH100) but really craved to take the middle and upper level chem classes, simply because the atomic knowledge made learning about the body a breeze.

You may be able to pass A&P without it, and it may not be required for your nursing program, but yewd be missing a great deal when it comes to understanding chemicals in the body. What is the body made of? What is involved with all the reactions that take place?

I toook A&P with students who did not have chemistry, and when it came to talking about pH and acids, CO2, O2, NaCl, Ca and all, they didn't understand it as quickly, and I don't see how they could undeerstand it at all, unless they knew what an atom is.

Try understanding Sodium and Potassium channels without first understanding how those two elements behave.

It's a tough call, but if you can get into a middle level chem class, I would, because it would make your understanding of the body have a solid foundation!

fnimat1 · Jan 23, 2002

Wow, I'm surpised that a lot of students on the board took, A & P indepenpendent of Chem...I'm taking A & P 1 and Chem 101 together....they are the pre-req's to get into the nursing program at my college. So far there hasn't been much chem involovement in A & P...but then it's only the beginning of the semester.

Fatima

"RN to be in 2004" :cool:

wannanurse · Jan 23, 2002

For the Community College I do not need chem. Now for the UWF I do need it to get in there for my BSN.

marci3335 · Jan 23, 2002

Originally posted by RN2bNC
Marci,

From what I remember of my Physiology class (at my college, Anatomy and Phys. were seperate classes), the chemistry was pretty basic.

The thing that I would worry about is whether or not the nursing program at your school will accept the Chem 100. Is Chemistry 101 a pre-req for the nursing program as well? If it is, it might prevent you from starting the program if you don't take it.

If not, it is probably best to get the ok in writing from the A&P instructor to take the class with out taking the Chem 101 course. That way, if any problems arise later, you will have a written document saying that your A&P course is valid. (That is, if the instructor has the power to do that for you)

Just a thought.

Good luck!

Chem 101 is a requirment for the for the nursing program and I'm taking it next semester. The reason I can't take it this semester is I need to take Int. Algebra first- this is a must have for Chem 101. I did talk to the instructor and she said I should be ok. Thanks so much for your reply!

Marci :)

marci3335 · Jan 23, 2002

Well I had my first class yesterday and I was suprised at the number of people in the class who haven't had any Chem! I have at least taken Basic Chem last semester so it's still fresh in my memory. We started reviewing chapter 2-Chemistry, and so far I am keeping up. I feel much better reading all of your responses, and also, having made it through my first day! Phew!!

Thanks!

Marci:)

RNIAM, BSN, RN · Jan 23, 2002

not sure if your still reading this post or not. I am taking intro to chemistry. This is a college course but it is equal to high school chemistry. The reason i have to take it is becasue I dropped out of high school at a young age and now I have to do those classes I thought I'd never use anyway. Life lesson learned. High school chemistry is required for admission to NY state nursing programs as far as I know. This is what I was told by the director of the nursing school I plan to attend. If anyone has information to the contrary please let me know. I would love to get out of doing it..lol.