I am ashamed in myself

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Hi everyone!

I passed A&P 1 with a A and A&P II with a B. Although I don't feel like I have learned anything in A&P II because I barely studied for it and just kept guessing on the exams and it help that my teacher kept adding a 15 point curve to each exam (test average was usually 54%-67%). I scored a 75 on all my exams without the curve (except for th final).

My final exam in that class (digestive system) I did not study for it at all because it was take home and all I did was Google the answers and ended up with a B with no curve which boosted up my final grade to a high B (89%).

Same for lab, I only attended maybe 5/16 labs because attendance was not mandatory. All I did was copy from my friends labs and studied those then took the lab exams. I ended with an A in lab as a final grade as it was really easy to get.

So as you can see, I just don't feel prepared to start nursing school without much background in A&P II even though I took it this spring semester which I am ashamed of.

Same goes for my medical terminology class, I received an A but since it was online I never once studied for it but just googled all the answers and got help from my sister who was a medical assistant on some problems. This is why I absolutely HATE online classes because I never take them seriously or put any effort in them.

How bad will this affect me in nursing school? I was a 4.0 student but my GPA went down to a 3.84 this semester. I took these classes at my state university. Thanks.

Cheating and dishonesty has no place in healthcare. We have no obligation whatsoever to either normalize this behavior or to make OP feel good about this behavior.

No one is trying to make her feel good about it, but I don't see a point in continuing to pile on her, either. She screwed up, she admitted it, there's nothing left to do but for her to teach herself what she skated by on, or follow a different path. Giving her ways to teach herself and give herself a good foundation are ways to help - telling her how badly she screwed up, won't.

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Retake A&P II at your community college and actually work hard to LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION. Take responsibility for your education.

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Retake A&P II at your community college and actually work hard to LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION. Take responsibility for your education.

I really like this idea. It's a good way to redeem yourself and get that solid foundation you really need.

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No one is trying to make her feel good about it, but I don't see a point in continuing to pile on her, either. She screwed up, she admitted it, there's nothing left to do but for her to teach herself what she skated by on, or follow a different path. Giving her ways to teach herself and give herself a good foundation are ways to help - telling her how badly she screwed up, won't.

Are you ******* serious? **** that noise. Re-read OP's original post. In it, they express no remorse whatsoever for cheating. They are only "ashamed" that they feel they didn't learn anything and might not be ready for nursing school (which is unsurprising since they cheated their way through A&P).

Read further, and they admit doing the same thing for their medical terminology class. Once again, no remorse for cheating, and certainly no realization that what they did was wrong. The only remorse/regret is that "This is why I absolutely HATE online classes because I never take them seriously or put any effort in them." and "So as you can see, I just don't feel prepared to start nursing school without much background in A&P II even though I took it this spring semester which I am ashamed of."

Absolutely zero acknowledgement of the academic dishonesty, or even hinting that they screwed up. I would be more inclined to help if they actually had some remorse, or though that cheating was wrong, but they don't, and academic dishonesty and lack of integrity is something I have zero tolerance for. In fact, dishonesty is one of the things that nurses routinely lose their licenses for.

Nursing is a profession that is seen as one of the most trusted professions. Persons with no integrity have no business in nursing, and nurses have no business encouraging them to pursue nursing.

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Are you ******* serious? **** that noise. Re-read OP's original post. In it, they express no remorse whatsoever for cheating. They are only "ashamed" that they feel they didn't learn anything and might not be ready for nursing school (which is unsurprising since they cheated their way through A&P).

Read further, and they admit doing the same thing for their medical terminology class. Once again, no remorse for cheating, and certainly no realization that what they did was wrong. The only remorse/regret is that "This is why I absolutely HATE online classes because I never take them seriously or put any effort in them." and "So as you can see, I just don't feel prepared to start nursing school without much background in A&P II even though I took it this spring semester which I am ashamed of."

Absolutely zero acknowledgement of the academic dishonesty, or even hinting that they screwed up. I would be more inclined to help if they actually had some remorse, or though that cheating was wrong, but they don't, and academic dishonesty and lack of integrity is something I have zero tolerance for. In fact, dishonesty is one of the things that nurses routinely lose their licenses for.

Nursing is a profession that is seen as one of the most trusted professions. Persons with no integrity have no business in nursing, and nurses have no business encouraging them to pursue nursing.

Woah. How about we just disagree? I just read it differently than you did.

I agree that her actions lack integrity. I think people deserve opportunity to try again and do better. That's all.

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Woah. How about we just disagree? I just read it differently than you did.

I agree that her actions lack integrity. I think people deserve opportunity to try again and do better. That's all.

I agree, and would take that position had OP at least acknowledged that it was wrong to cheat. It doesn't matter "how you read it". OP states that they are ashamed because they thought they would know more.

They admit to cheating in at least two courses (and it sounds like multiple times in each), show no indication that it's wrong, and instead think the only bad thing about it is that they didn't learn as much (cheating) as they thought they should.

I'm curious how you're defending this, since you also acknowledge that their actions lack integrity, but by all accounts, OP has no idea that what they even did was wrong.

Again, I do think that people deserve second chances, but not if they don't realise what they did was wrong.

There are thousands of eager, upstanding students who are on waitlists to get into nursing programs. People who cheat their way through basic courses should not be allowed to take a spot away from these students, nor a job, when they ultimately graduate.

if a licensed, practicing nurse was caught falsifying documentation multiple times over the course of months to years, they would have their license stripped away quicker than they could say "don't take my license, lady" This would not be okay in the professional world, so why is it okay in school? They even admit cheating during an exam!!!!! I mean, come on.

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I agree, and would take that position had OP at least acknowledged that it was wrong to cheat. It doesn't matter "how you read it". OP states that they are ashamed because they thought they would know more.

They admit to cheating in at least two courses (and it sounds like multiple times in each), show no indication that it's wrong, and instead think the only bad thing about it is that they didn't learn as much (cheating) as they thought they should.

I'm curious how you're defending this, since you also acknowledge that their actions lack integrity, but by all accounts, OP has no idea that what they even did was wrong.

Again, I do think that people deserve second chances, but not if they don't realise what they did was wrong.

There are thousands of eager, upstanding students who are on waitlists to get into nursing programs. People who cheat their way through basic courses should not be allowed to take a spot away from these students, nor a job, when they ultimately graduate.

if a licensed, practicing nurse was caught falsifying documentation multiple times over the course of months to years, they would have their license stripped away quicker than they could say "don't take my license, lady" This would not be okay in the professional world, so why is it okay in school? They even admit cheating during an exam!!!!! I mean, come on. How can you honestly defend OP and say that the board is being too hurty on their feewings....

Because I've formed an impression of the OP based on other posts of hers. Not saying my impression is correct, again just different than yours.

There's no reason to be a smartass because you disagree with how I think someone should be treated. Yeah, she did a really crappy thing. Maybe she deserves whatever you think she should get. And I never, ever defended her actions, I just stated that maybe it was time to stop telling her how horrible her actions were (because there was plenty of that) and start making suggestions on how to fix it. That's all.

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Because I've formed an impression of the OP based on other posts of hers. Not saying my impression is correct, again just different than yours.

There's no reason to be a smartass because you disagree with how I think someone should be treated. Yeah, she did a really crappy thing. Maybe she deserves whatever you think she should get. And I never, ever defended her actions, I just stated that maybe it was time to stop telling her how horrible her actions were (because there was plenty of that) and start making suggestions on how to fix it. That's all.

Just saw that in your first post. My mistake. i'm very sensitive to this topic since I had a loved one who died at the hands of an incompetent nurse, whose deficiencies were well known to the hospital, and well documented by said hospital, but she kept working.... I honestly don't care what you think of OP or why. I, myself, have no tolerance for lack of integrity by people working in healthcare. Make a mistake, fine, own it, remediate it, make it right and move on. That's not what happened with OP.

OP may have other posts that are nice, and OP may be a nice person. OP may be legitimately nicer and more compassionate than Mother Theresa, however, that does not mean that OP has the fortitude of character to be a nurse. Most nursing programs disqualify candidates for academic dishonesty, and for good reason.

I see that in your profile, it says that you are a pre-nursing student. Just for kicks, run this scenario by your nursing faculty, and see what they say.

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Sorry Kid it is called Karma. What you have to do now is learn A&P because you use it on a daily basis. Remember first do not harm, get studying I am sure you will learn from your mistakes and never make it again. There are no short cuts.

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Just saw that in your first post. My mistake. i'm very sensitive to this topic since I had a loved one who died at the hands of an incompetent nurse, whose deficiencies were well known to the hospital, and well documented by said hospital, but she kept working.... I honestly don't care what you think of OP or why. I, myself, have no tolerance for lack of integrity by people working in healthcare. Make a mistake, fine, own it, remediate it, make it right and move on. That's not what happened with OP.

OP may have other posts that are nice, and OP may be a nice person. OP may be legitimately nicer and more compassionate than Mother Theresa, however, that does not mean that OP has the fortitude of character to be a nurse. Most nursing programs disqualify candidates for academic dishonesty, and for good reason.

I see that in your profile, it says that you are a pre-nursing student. Just for kicks, run this scenario by your nursing faculty, and see what they say.

I'm very sorry to hear of your loved one.

I know rationally that you're correct. I think I'd feel differently if this was a nursing course and if there wasn't a big licensing exam at the end of all of this. My heart and my brain are often at odds.

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I decided to click on this person...the original poster. Whoever they are, they are FAKE...or their stories are fake. Try it for yourselves. One says she's a Germaphobe in her junior year of nursing school, the next she's just been accepted to a BSN program. Do you like how everyone is up in arms over this person who's no even real?

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I decided to click on this person...the original poster. Whoever they are, they are FAKE...or their stories are fake. Try it for yourselves. One says she's a Germaphobe in her junior year of nursing school, the next she's just been accepted to a BSN program. Do you like how everyone is up in arms over this person who's no even real?

The germaphobe post says upcoming junior, so that would indicate sophomore entering their junior year. Also fits with the "accepted to BSN program" post, as typically, you do not start nursing from day one at a four year program, rather, you apply, and find out acceptance in the spring term of your sophomore year. The timeline is logical and makes sense.

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