Will I Ever Be a Nurse --- Am I the only One????

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The reason why I am posting this message here, because I am wondering if I am the only one that has had so many obstacles and valleys to cross over, go around, go through [etc...], with wanting to become a nurse. And will I see the day that I will be a nurse and futher my career as a nurse.

Maybe I shouldn't post this message, because I will open myself up to more negativeness. No I don't want to be beat up more then what I have been already. I am looking for a ray of sunshine, hope that this dream, this goal will come true. I am looking for a soul [so-to-speak], that I can connect to, that has gone through similar trials and errors and is a nurse and has been one for sometime and has futher his or her career.

This journey that I am on, started in September 1994. I was 32 at the time. Never been at a college, did not know anything or anyone. Did not know what to do or who to talk to. I was told from the financial aid office, that I could never take less then 12 hours because of the student loan I was getting. It was the Stadford Loan that I was receiving. Which I found out too late, that they lied to me.

Anyway as I was saying, I started to a 4 year college in 1994, going for my BS in nursing. The day was cold, but excited. Everyone that was majoring in nursing, met in this big auditorium.

We were told that you choose your schedule/courses and your assigned advisor will ok it and if there is any problems she will help you choose alternatives. That is when my bad luck [if you want to call it that], began.

I chose my courses. Yes you had to take prereqs before getting into the nursing program. Chose the courses I was going to take, 16 hours, took the form to my assigned advisor. While she was looking over the courses I signed up for, I asked her, "is everything ok, so far?," and told her that "this is my first time of ever being in college." She never did respond back to me. She ok my paper and told me to go to financial aid office. So I did.

I was having a rough time. My grades were not good. I was making B(s) and C(s), mostly C(s). I studied and read, but just wasn't doing that well. And too at this time, I was a mother of two and a wife. Then in the middle of the quarter [yes at this time this college was on the quarter system], when I was in microbiology, this girl asked me, "what are you majoring in and what courses are you taking." Well I told her, she looked at me and asked, "why are you taking 2 of everything." I looked at her and said, 'two of everything, what do you mean?' I gave her my copy of my schedule that had all the courses that I signed up for and my advisor ok signature on it, for her to look at it. That is when she pointed out to me that even though the courses has different names and different course IDs and section numbers, basically they were the same. The Statistic course I did not have to take, being a nursing student that I will have that after I get into the nursing program. I just looked at her, feeling so stupid and embarrased. She even made the commit, why did my advisor ok these courses, when they were the same. I told her, I don't know. I asked her what should I do. She told me that I need to go to my advisor and ask her why did she ok for me to take these courses. Well that is what I did.

And of course that cost me, because I was going to this college on a student loan. Money I will have to pay back when I get finish.

So I went to my advisor, told her what was told to me. I handed her the copy of paper that had the courses that I signed up for with her signature on it, okaying it. She admitted to me, "verbally," that I was taking two of everything and that I should not be taking the statistic course. She also said that she will take care of it, for me to w/d from everything and start over fresh in Winter of 1995. I asked her about my student loan, if this will have any barring on it. She said, "no it will not." I even asked her, will this be on my transcript? She said, "no, it will not, that she will take care of it."

Well to this day, those courses are on my transcript and I am going to have to pay back that money I borrowed, to paid for those courses that I was trusting this woman to advise me honestly and truthfully and in the right direction. Not only that, but this w/d, went on my records, finacial aid records at this college which lead to a penalty.

Over the time, from September 1995 to June of 1998, I have had to w/d from courses because of medical reasons and because of some of the courses that I was taking as an elective, the instructors flat out told you, "I do not allow nursing students in my class." Which again, I went to my advisor, the same one that I had from the very beginning at this college, and told her how I was being treated by these instructors and what should I do. She advised me to w/d and that she will take care of the instructors for the way that they have treated me and that these courses will not be on my transcript or interfer with my student loan. So once again, I trusted her.

Well it ended up, when I started a new quarter, April, 1998. I received a letter from the financial aide office. Telling me that I am on my first probabtion and the criterias that I have to meet in order to keep my student loans. I went in and spoke to the person that was in charge of my file. This is what she told me, "According to your academic status, you have w/d too many times from courses and so you are put on probation and in order for you to continue to receive your student loan these are the criterias that you will have to meet." You have to be 12 hours or more, cannot w/d or drop out and if you fail any of the courses, just one of them, you cannot receive your student loan and in order for you to return back to this college, you will have to pay from your pocket the first semester."

Well, I went through the whole story of what my advisor had said to me from September 1995 and that I could not afford to pay out of my pocket. She told me, "what your advisor said to you there is no proof of it." When I asked her, about semester, that is when I was by told by this lady, that the college was switching from the quarter system to semester system, September 1998.

Well at this time, I was taking 12 hours. I failed A& P I. Found out that when this college went from quarters to semesters, they added more prereqs for the nursing students to take before enrolling into the nursing program. So it would have taken me another year and a half if not longer to finish the course. So that is when I decided to transfer to a 2 year college and just go for my ADN.

June 1998, transfer to the college that I am at now. Retook A&P I, plus other courses. Got the financial aid I needed and was told that the minimum hours I need to take, to get financial aid, the standford loan, was 6 hours. That summer semester, I was taking 8 hours. I had straight A(s) in all three courses. That boosted my ego tremendously. Because I needed those A(s) to pull my gpa up in order to be elgible, along with my ACT score, to get into the nursing program. The courses I took in Fall 1998, again, the grades I received were great and my gpa went up higher and so did my confidence.

But, on the down side, not everything transfer. The microbiology course that I took at the 4 yr college did not transfer, b/c it did not have a lab. So I had to retake it. This was Spring 1999 and I was accepted into the nursing program a semester early because of my gpa and ACT score. And too I was told, if I did not accept the offer into the nursing program, that it would be counted as my first time of being offered into the program. You have two tries to get into the program. So I did not want to risk it and so I accepted.

Again, I did not know what to expect. Everything was going so fast and I had so much I had to do. In my microbiology course I came out of there with a high A, but I failed level 1 of the nursing program. In order to pass this nursing, you have to make at least an 80 and they do not round up. If you make 79.9999, you have a 79. Well I had a 76.

Then in Fall 1999, the college changed their nursing program......everything.

I got reaccepted back into the new program. Had no problems. Came out of there with an 87---a B. Went on to level 2. Which by the way we were the first ones to go through the new program and were the ginny pigs, some what.

The way this program is set up, each level does not prepare you for the following level and that hurts you. Because the teachers [who taught the old currculum and did prepare you for the following level that you passed into], expected you to come into the level knowing something about what they are going to teach.

I succeeded on to level 2, no problems. Went into level 3. After the third test, I had to w/d, because I started having heart problems and I was sitting at 80.

I had to repeat level 3 and passed. Went into level 4. Had 21 days of lecture, 7 tests, final exam, plus other things we had to do. No I did not pass. I will have to repeat.

From speaking to others who did pass and went through level 4 before me, when I asked, 'how did you pass?.' This is the answer they would give me, "I memorized." I am sorry, but my memory is not that good, especially being hypothyroidism and with all the material we had to learn in the short amount of time we had.

I even spoken to several students, who have went through the program before me. This was the class that I would have graduated with, or be in the 4th level with, if I hadn't had to w/d because of heart problems. I asked them, do they remember anything that they learned in level 4. Everyone has said, "no," they do not remember nothing. In fact one said that some of the things that she learned, when she was in level 4, that "you use it when it was a code." What did she learn that you only use it when it is a code, I wonder. Because everything we had, you use it on a daily basis. The different diseases, etc....

Like I said, I am not looking for pity here. I am not asking for more negativeness. All I want to know, are there others out there that has gone through what I am going throug?

Will this affect me getting a good position?

Will I be a nurse?

Thank you,

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Dear TruthSeeker,

While reading your message about the difficulties and red tape you have endured, I grew mad for you. That is absolutely rediculous. But I did want you to know that it's not just you, these experiencies happen to lots of student, even non-nursing students.

I (hopefully) will start taking pre-req nursing courses in the evenings this spring while I work a full time job and try to save money so that when the time comes I can do my clinicals as a full time student and not have to work.

I allready have a Bachelor's in Science from a four year school and while reading your message it took me back to my first weeks as a college student. The campus was sooooo big ( I got lost on many an occassion), I had know idea what financial aid I had and how it worked, I had no idea how to register for courses and under the guidance of counselors inadvertently registered for a course that was "only open" to Sophmore level students and above. I spent my first semester praying that my teacher didn't find out I was just a freshmen. Because if he did and booted me out of his class I had no clue how to with draw from the class and what if I I dropped below my full time status? I would loose my grants.

I also have two friends that both majored in education. One had to completely switch universities because the program changed from 4 years to five. The other "fell through the cracks" and went through her college career without taking the state licensure exam for teachers and wasn't told of it until she graduated and tried to get her first teaching job. She had to wait a few months before the exam was offered again to take it and lost out on the teaching position.

I have lots of experience with not having financial aid go through til the last minute, arriving on the first day of class to find that I am not registered due to "system glitches" and then need to re-register for classes, etc.

I give you a lot of credit. The only reason I am going back to school as an adult is because of my prior experience in college. If I had not gone to college before there is no way I would have the courage to do it now. Give yourself a big pat on the back from me.

Now that you have all this "college policy" experience under your belt hopefully you won't have many problems in the future. I would definately get a new adviser. If the school will not allow you to get a new adviser quit seeing the one you have now and go to a trusted member of the faculty or one of your instructors. Instructors usually have a better handle on the right courses to take anyway. Plus, buddy up with another nursing student and students that are further along in the program and can give you the skinny on classes.

Good Luck to you and that which does not kill us makes us stronger.:D

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Reading that last post made me think to remind everyone getting Fin. Aid to fill out a FAFSA for the upcoming year (after Jan 1st) I believe. I just got something in the mail today about a PIN number.

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Found out today from a nursing instructor [who is for the students], that Level 3 received 3 POINTS TO THEIR FINAL GRADE.

At MGCCC Nursing program, it is a 2 year program that includes 4 Levels. The passing grade is 80 or higher. So for you to pass from one level to the next level, you have to have an 80 for your FINAL GRADE and this is after you take the final exam.

So every Level 3 student who had a 77 to a 79 for their FINAL GRADE, recieved 3 POINTS to their FINAL GRADE that will put them at an 80 or higher and yes that will pass them onto LEVEL 4.

What I am so angry about, they only allow so many seats for each level.

We [the ones who will be repeating Level 4], was told that Level 4 will only have 50 seats available. There were 55 students in Level 3. So if only 40 passed or 45 passed, that would give me and the others who will have to repeat Level 4 a seat to return back to.

So with Level 3 instructors giving 3 POINTS to every student that was in Level 3 to their FINAL GRADE, that took my seat away for Level 4. Making me to have to sit out a semester or so.

Not only that, this past semester, Fall [August to December 2001], we had a lot of students to transfer from another MGCCC in another county b/c of their nursing program [which is just like ours], was horrible. So the students that transfer to our college in Level 3 will also be taking my seat. And I say this, because I have been at this college since June of 1998 and that is not right/fair. We that have been at this campus from the start of this nursing, we should have first priority over the ones that just transfer.

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I am with you truthseeker you should have priority!!

sorry to hear that. :(

Wow! I can't believe the hurdles some of you have had to overcome, but I know you are the kind of nurses we want in the work force --- DEDICATED and DETERMINED!! Good for you for hanging in there!!!

My story is a pretty easy road compared to some of yours, but here it is:

After 8 years of marriage, and with 3 kids at home, the youngest one just 2, I decided to go to nursing school. I went through the 2 yr program to get my LPN. Thankfully I had a great fin. aid director who took great care of me in that area!! My only rough time was in my 2nd semester. We were allowed a max of 3 absences from clinicals, if you missed more, you repeated the entire semester. I had missed 2 because of my sons pneumonia, but after he got well, seemed to be back on track and all was going well. Until I got sick --- very sick! My fever was so high I was blacking out and I ended up missing 2 more days. I was extremely upset to find out that they had "no exceptions" to the rule and as far the head of the nursing department was concerned, I had to repeat the semester. What was most frustrating, was there was only 5 clinical days left in the semester, I had met every single objective for that particular clinical round, and I had straight A's. Had I not been able to meet the clinical objectives and my grades were poor, then I could see making me repeat, but come on!!!! So I went to the dean. Thankfully, she allowed me to stay in, and they set up a make up day for me to do one more day of clinicals. Why couldn't they have a make up day in the first place? I called other schools in the state with the same program, and was told that they all have make up days, then if you don't make it to the make up day, you repeat. Anyway, I was able to go on and finish school, graduated with honors, and can happily say that nursing school was the best thing I ever did for myself!!!! My husband was extremely supportive through it all too and that made a huge difference. After it was all said and done, the head of the nursing department told me that she too would have fought the policy if it would have been her. Funny thing is , they never have changed the 3 day policy!! In fact I heard that it's now 2 days! :eek:

Anyway, hang in there, and yes, with your determination, you will someday be a nurse --- and a great one too!!!

Gosh, just read your post and had to stop and make sure it wasn't my name on the post. Here is the only difference between you and I.....I only used my advisor when I needed the signature on the sign up for classes. First I took only pre-reqs and got one degree. Then I went for my nursing courses which really was where my problems began. Each of the nursing instructors were the advisors, when I told mine I had already finished all I need for the program I became a marked student. I took all the nursing classes and passed all but one by 0.4 of a point! Talk about being depressed. Then I found the Regent's or Excelisor (as they are now called) and finished my degree. I sat for boards at the end of July and passed. Whew!

All these wonderful people on this board have made me realize I am a good nurse. I have vented here and their responses help me along the way.

Don't give up your dream because it is your's and no one else's!

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