Why the nurses get no respect...

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Hello, everyone.

I know this topic has been severely beaten, but its not dead yet because so many of us are still talking about it. I thought I would share my opinions and I invite everyone to comment, whether you agree with me or not.

I'm working on a BSN degree, which I expect to complete by summer '04. After that I intend to work as an RN for a year and then apply to grad school to do the CRNA program. Yes, I'm one of 'those' people who went ahead and did a nursing degree despite all the MANY negative things I heard about nursing as a career. BUT... I've been working as a volunteer in a local hospital, and from what I have observed, it IS true that physicians and NPs look down on nurses. But, it is also true that a lot of what has happened to the nursing profession is due to the attitudes and behavior of some of the nurses themselves.

First of all, I can tell from talking to some of the nurses at my hospital that they barely made it through nursing school and probably passed the NCLEX by less than a hair. Even as a student, I am shocked at some of the things I've seen some RNs do and at some of the questions they ask...stuff that any first year nursing student should know. If even I, as a nursing student, can observe these things, then surely the doctors also do. And, this is one of the reasons some of them think most nurses are idiots and little more than patient care techs. I've only been a volunteer in this hospital for 6 months and already I can tell the good nurses from the bad ones.

Another thing I've observed is that many nurses complain, complain, complain...about everything and wherever they can find an audience. They complain about the pay, the patients, the doctors, the administration...you name it. I've always wondered why these people got into the profession in the first place. They always use the same cliches...Plumbers make more, landscapers make more, etc. Anyone who really loves nursing will agree that it takes a lot more to be a nurse than it does to be a plumber or a gardener. For one thing, to be a good nurse you have to care more about helping people than about making a buck. In fact, to be really good at any profession you have to care more about your competence and reputation than about making a lot of money. I think a lot of nurses don't understand this.

I've seen some nurses who're so miserable when they come on the floor most times that I wonder why they bother. I've always believed that if you don't like what you're doing then you should find another way to make a living and stop creating more stress for yourself. I'm not yet an RN, and obviously as a volunteer I'm not making ANY money from helping take care of people in the hospital, but its experience that I'll need later and I don't get stressed out by it because I actually like helping people.

Also, some nurses don't take themselves seriously but they expect doctors to respect them anyway. In the old days, nurses used to wear immaculate white uniforms that were ironed, and they also wore clean white shoes. They wore conservative and neatly groomed hair, short cut nails, and they were spotless all around. Nurses were in very much the same supporting role back then but doctors did not look down on them the way they do now. Everyone used to look up to that spotless white uniform as a symbol of health and authority, and nursing used to be one of the most highly respected careers.

But look at what's happened. SCRUBS!!! In the ugliest and most shocking colors and prints, and with a pair of smelly, dirty sneakers to match. Not to mention the outrageous hairstyles and the long, acrylic fingernails to match. Compare the matronly-looking nurse from the 1950s in her glorious white uniform to today's nurse in his/her cheap cotton scrubs. Which one looks more like a circus act? Which one looks more like a healthcare professional? And we're wondering why people don't see nurses as professionals!!! Yes, appearance matters, and to prove it, put a lab coat on any nurse and throw a stethescope around his or her neck and see whether most patients won't assume that she/he is a doctor.

Then there's attitude. I've seen nurses who flat out refuse to go back to school to learn new stuff, always holding on tight only to what they know. They resist change and complain when they have to learn new technology that comes into the hospital. Some of them love to stand around backstabbing each other and gossipping, and they say the nastiest things about other nurses who take their work seriously.

I encourage anyone who's thinking about going into nursing to volunteer a few hours each week in a hospital and watch how the RNs and the LPNs do their stuff, just to get an idea of what to expect from the career. If after doing that you still feel like giving nursing a try, then just do it and stop paying attention to other people who say negative things about nursing. Every career has stress, and very few people you ask (no matter what profession they're in) will ever say they make "enough" money. I don't think nurses will ever be paid "enough" money for what they do, but one thing I've learned is that nursing is absolutely the wrong career choice if you're doing it just for the money.

I think nursing can once again become a respected profession when some of us in the field start to respect ourselves and each other a lot more than we do now.

Has DaveFL morphed into Nurses Are Dumb? Has DaveFL given birth to Tony and Nurses Are Dumb? Seems like they're multiplying at an alarming speed!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Tony--DaveFL--calderone76---see white rabbit---chap--RnstudentK--gomernurse-bender73.....

there are a few others, but I can't remember their names.

Feel sorry for this guy he seems to be fixated on "wiping up pee and poop!" It's always the same old song too! bash nurses, try to degrade them, get his butt kicked on the board and then slink away for a while.........

Specializes in Obstetrics, M/S, Psych.

Yup. So far he's been a volunteer, a nurse manager and now a BSN....come on...go for that PhD, Dr. Trollifigus!

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WELCOME TO THE BB!

Are you willing to tell us about yourself?

Ok Dave,

I have to say for the record I am A Nurse and I am Proud!

First of all working as a volunteer you have no idea what the work load of the nurses on the floor are. Try taking total care of 4 patients one with chemo, one with 2UPRBC to be hung, two on reverse isolation with loads of IV ATBX to hung. No techs or CNA to do baths and 3 of your 4 patients are total assist or even partial assist. You have to pass meds at 9am and still have time to check labs before the docs get there to report any criticals. You bearlly have time to finnish your task when the docs come in and change all the orders and write for 15 more things to be done with that pt you still have to finnish a bath on.

Most nurses out of nursing school are completely lost once they hit the floor trying to remember all that was crammed into your head with a little information about everything not enough information on anything. Most nurses choose to specailize then learn as much as they can about that area. For instance I could not tell you a thing about a cardiac cath but I bet you a cardiac nurse would not even touch the chemo orders I deal with daily. In fact I have had to leave my unit to go to the ICU to give chemo to a cancer pt.

As far as scrubbs go I worked in a hosp where the unforms were ALL WHITE and it sucked. I think no matter what your inform is it can look nice. It is a matter of personal pride.

Talk to me after you are finnished with school and have to take care of 4-5 patients for 12 hours a day then listen to the media and other people like yourself belittle you or your profession because they "think" they know what you do.

Well, he was a laborer for a paving company too and he knows everything about being a CEO, his uncle trained him by osmosis.

Dave, I know you've heard your earfull by now and you might have even stopped paying attention to this post because of embarrasment over such bad judgement to post it in the first place.

I just want to say:

have you ever seen a fish hanging on a wall with it's mouth shut?

It is easy to critique ANYTHING when you are looking in from the outside. Mostly because conditions are different on the outside than on the inside. (I know when I was a kid I knew just how my mom should have raised me, and she of course thought otherwise, but it turns out she did a damn good job and I wouldn't expect anything less from her. She IS a nurse afterall) I know you think you have an "educated" observation and that you see things that can be changed so without adding to or taking away from what has been said... If you have the power to see all of these things so clearly and in such a "positive" frame then you also have the responsibility to make the necessary changes.

---with great power comes great responsibility---

Unless you are making changes for the better or have made such changes you should keep your coments as thoughtful plans.

Education can be had from any book but Knowledge comes only from experience. With that being said... it is human nature to learn from our mistakes, as I am sure you have learned from yours.

Peacefully,

KidsLuvMe

Well, he was a laborer for a paving company too and he knows everything about being a CEO, his uncle trained him by osmosis.

Can you imagine what his resume must look like? Volunteer who knows everything, manager, CEO by osmosis, laborer, nursing student extraordinaire....

:roll

Specializes in ICU.

In case there are new people who are finding this discussion confusing a "troll" is a person who registers on a bulletin board with the express purpose of creating dissention. They rarely continue the arguement themselves merely initiate it.

As you can see from the responses the frequent members of this board have faced this kind of activity many times and have become suspicious of those who appear to fit the mold of "troll" this has led to members being outspoken on the subject when they feel it is occuring.

I will also point out that multiple "personalities" created for the express purpose of troll activity are a reportable offence and are likely to result in the accounts being terminated and the member being banned.

Thanks you NURSES.

I was ignorant as to what troll meant.

Reading this thread I have felt both anger and pride. Anger because of what some posters say against nursing. :( Pride because of all the nurses who are defending our profession!!! :D

Kudos to all who take Nursing in stride with all the stressors and the joys!!! Your patients/clients are lucky to have you.

Originally posted by sbic56

Yup. So far he's been a volunteer, a nurse manager and now a BSN....come on...go for that PhD, Dr. Trollifigus!

:roll

This poster(s) reminds me of that show called the "Pretender"; policeman today, brain surgeon tomorrow, and astronaut the next day etc...

:D

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