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- Jul 29, '12 by whatdoIdonow?Does this happen in LTC? I'm starting tomorrow, and thinking probably not, because the patients are residents.
- Jul 30, '12 by CrunchyMamaWhere I work, we take turns being on call if needed (low census, too many nurses on). If a nurse gets called and asked if he/she wants to be on called and if he/she says no, then he/she goes into work and the next nurse on the list gets called and asked the same question. Usually a nurse will not refuse to be put on call because it rarely happens. I've never known anyone to be called in to come in....so it's a pretty safe bet that if I get put on call, I'll get to stay home for the night (I work 11pm-7am)....plus we get paid for being on call.
- Jul 30, '12 by NanikRNaccording to employment laws, it's iffy as to legality, but who wants to be the one that pushes the issue and all of the sudden have a ton of written warnings in their file and get fired?
in the 2 years i've worked at this hospital-that-shall-not -be-named, i've rarely been cancelled. until this last month. now we're floating like a boat, using pto , and still getting cancelled. excuse me. i meant delayed.
i can understand cancelled if the hospital census really is that low. but i can't understand this delayed crap.
- Jul 31, '12 by DoGoodThenGoQuote from nurse2033Oh for the good old days when shifts of nurses were brought in on schedule regardless of census. If there was not enough patient care on one's floor/unit there was always being floated some place else. Should that fail there was busy work such as but not limited to: sorting out the nurse's station and or medication and supply rooms, tidying up the linen closets, rolling up gauze bandages, checking and cleaning crash/code carts, and so on and so forth.This is one of my biggest pet peeves. I understand the hospital doesn't want to pay us if there aren't enough patients, but I rely on my income to live. We would take turns being on call and you would have to use your paid time off to get paid for it, or take it unpaid and lose money. This system completely benefits the hospital, and does not benefit the employee at all. I challenge managers to find a better way. I actually quit my previous job in large part because of this practice. I did not call out sick for over a year and a half, and I still didn't have enough vacation time to take a vacation. I had used all my PTO covering call shifts and needed time off, so I quit (which I was planning to do anyway but this pushed my timeline). Keeping good employees should be a priority. There has to be a better way.
- Jul 31, '12 by DoGoodThenGoQuote from woohAirline hostesses, certain physicans and others in various careers/professions have been put "on call" or "reserve" by their employers as part of standard practice for years. Therefore it is no unreasonable to assume there are some sort of laws or rules in place regarding the policy.We've recently switched to that being policy. We used to be "on call" and had to be available all shift for them for the high price to them of $2/hr. They decided that was too much money for them to spend, so now we're on "stand by" and have to be available all shift for them for no money at all. It gives them absolutely NO INCENTIVE to plan responsibly. And apparently since they changed the name from "on call" to "stand by" they seem to think their staff is stupid enough to think this is completely different. But nurses are a dime a dozen these days, so we pretty much have to put up with whatever policy they come up with.
According to employment laws, it's iffy as to legality, but who wants to be the one that pushes the issue and all of the sudden have a ton of written warnings in their file and get fired?
- Aug 3, '12 by KasandraIn my experience, that is how call is done: You are cancelled for the first 8 and on call for the last 4 hours of what was your scheduled shift. There is no financial compensation unless you use your ETO. You are also given a choice as well: you do not have to accept the cancellation. If you answer no, the charge nurse calls another nurse on a list that they go by. The nurses that I used to work with called the charge nurse the Cancel Fairy, a warm term of endearment. Many people, including myself, enjoyed getting those calls. I had ETO to burn so I would just substitute those for my hours. Sad to say: with two little ones, I have not been out of town on a real vacay in like 6 years! I am overdue, I know! Anyway, I hope that this helps!
- Aug 3, '12 by FLmomof5At my last hospital, this was a weekly/bi-weekly occurrance. We would be paid $2/hr for being placed on stand-by. Once on stand-by, you could be called in at ANY point during the shift. This seriously sucked because I worked nights. When you didn't end up going in (which was most of the time), you either went for the $2/hr or used PTO.
At my current hospital, census is NEVER low! Sometimes a "bid-shifter" might be sent home @ 11P and his/her patients split among the rest of the staff, but I have never seen a regularly scheduled nurse called off. There have been times where our "extra nurse" (the bid-shifter) is floated to another floor.
I am looking forward to being able to bid shift off my floor (you have to be with the hospital 6 mo to do this). Many of our nurses get 48 - 60/hr per week. In doing so, (like one nurse I chatted with) they have paid off all consumer debt! This same nurse, after paying off her consumer debt is now paying off her mortgage early so that she is completely debt free when she retires!
BTW, this is at a not-for-profit religious hospital in a major city. We also have a 1-4 or 5 ratio on nights! (once in a blue moon, it might be 1:6 if a nurse called out and we couldn't replace the nurse...)
- Aug 3, '12 by MeriwhenThankfully, neither of my facilities does "on call": I'm cancelled or I'm not cancelled, there is no "you're cancelled but we may call you later, so you have to stand by". Sometimes after canceling, they may call me later to ask if I can still come in since they ended up too short, but I'm not obligated in any way.
Also, in both facilities if I'm cancelled less than two hours before the shift start time, they owe me at least 2 hours' pay. So if they want to cancel me for 7a, they have to contact me by 5a the latest or they have to pay me for two hours. They can have me come in to work for those two hours if they want, but they have to pay it to me regardless.