Strike or time to grow up!

kennedyj · Jun 17, 2001

I hear so much talk about striking that it scares me to think that there are so many people who would abandon their patients so easily. Maybe in some cases where safety is an issue I could consider striking (after all other methods have failed). I feel that nurses need to stand together more politically but not by striking. There is currently too much fighting between nurses at this point (adn,BSN, MSN, CNA etc.)

When people strike I hear them talk bad about agency workers (scabs). Does this mean you would like to see no one show up??

Does this mean you would like to see your patients suffer??

If so maybe it is time for you to leave nursing....

Jared

RNPD · Jun 17, 2001

I saw on another post that you were able to surf the net for SIX HOURS while working a 12 hour shift. Come and work a week with me, where you are lucky to get a meal or bathroom break, and then post again how you feel about nurses on strike.

Naturally, as I've said many times in the past-if your job is good and you are satisfied, you will have no reason to strike. And I would say that someone who can sit and surf the web for half the night has nothing to complain about. But I am curious-in those 6 hours, you couldn't find ONE thing to do for your patients? No one was scared, or lonely, or in pain, or needed a shoulder to cry on, a back rub, or a hand to hold? You mean to tell me that there was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to make a patient's time a bit more comfortable? How about helping another nurse who may be had a more difficult assignment? Or seeing that the unit was neat and organized. What a wasteful and non productive way to spend a shift when there are people in need.

Who needs to grow up?

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RNPD · Jun 17, 2001

I saw on another post that you were able to surf the net for SIX HOURS while working a 12 hour shift. Come and work a week with me, where you are lucky to get a meal or bathroom break, and then post again how you feel about nurses on strike.

Naturally, as I've said many times in the past-if your job is good and you are satisfied, you will have no reason to strike. And I would say that someone who can sit and surf the web for half the night has nothing to complain about. But I am curious-in those 6 hours, you couldn't find ONE thing to do for your patients? No one was scared, or lonely, or in pain, or needed a shoulder to cry on, a back rub, or a hand to hold? You mean to tell me that there was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to make a patient's time a bit more comfortable? How about helping another nurse who may be had a more difficult assignment? Or seeing that the unit was neat and organized. What a wasteful and non productive way to spend a shift when there are people in need.

Who needs to grow up?

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fiestynurse · Jun 17, 2001

Time to grow up? Abandon our patients so easily? Like to see our patients suffer?

Maybe it's time to leave nursing?

I think it's time for you to educate yourself on the complexity of the issues that you are speaking about. Not that I am calling you an idiot or anything!

fiestynurse · Jun 17, 2001

Time to grow up? Abandon our patients so easily? Like to see our patients suffer?

Maybe it's time to leave nursing?

I think it's time for you to educate yourself on the complexity of the issues that you are speaking about. Not that I am calling you an idiot or anything!

nurs4kids · Jun 17, 2001

Originally posted by RNPD:
I saw on another post that you were able to surf the net for SIX HOURS while working a 12 hour shift. Come and work a week with me, where you are lucky to get a meal or bathroom break, and then post again how you feel about nurses on strike.
Naturally, as I've said many times in the past-if your job is good and you are satisfied, you will have no reason to strike. And I would say that someone who can sit and surf the web for half the night has nothing to complain about. But I am curious-in those 6 hours, you couldn't find ONE thing to do for your patients? No one was scared, or lonely, or in pain, or needed a shoulder to cry on, a back rub, or a hand to hold? You mean to tell me that there was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to make a patient's time a bit more comfortable? How about helping another nurse who may be had a more difficult assignment? Or seeing that the unit was neat and organized. What a wasteful and non productive way to spend a shift when there are people in need.
Who needs to grow up?
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AMEN!!!

nurs4kids · Jun 17, 2001

Originally posted by RNPD:
I saw on another post that you were able to surf the net for SIX HOURS while working a 12 hour shift. Come and work a week with me, where you are lucky to get a meal or bathroom break, and then post again how you feel about nurses on strike.
Naturally, as I've said many times in the past-if your job is good and you are satisfied, you will have no reason to strike. And I would say that someone who can sit and surf the web for half the night has nothing to complain about. But I am curious-in those 6 hours, you couldn't find ONE thing to do for your patients? No one was scared, or lonely, or in pain, or needed a shoulder to cry on, a back rub, or a hand to hold? You mean to tell me that there was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to make a patient's time a bit more comfortable? How about helping another nurse who may be had a more difficult assignment? Or seeing that the unit was neat and organized. What a wasteful and non productive way to spend a shift when there are people in need.
Who needs to grow up?
[ June 16, 2001: Message edited by: RNPD ]

AMEN!!!

Mijourney · Jun 17, 2001

Hi Jared. You spent six hours on the net while at work? What type of nurse are you? Are you in management? If not, what type of unit do you work? Aren't there policies and procedures for monitoring your patients routinely?

I can appreciate that you are against unions, but some of your posts indicate that you may not have a grip on what's really going on in the patient care arena.

Mijourney · Jun 17, 2001

Hi Jared. You spent six hours on the net while at work? What type of nurse are you? Are you in management? If not, what type of unit do you work? Aren't there policies and procedures for monitoring your patients routinely?

I can appreciate that you are against unions, but some of your posts indicate that you may not have a grip on what's really going on in the patient care arena.

fergus51 · Jun 17, 2001

OK, a strike is a distict possibility here in the next little while. However, we maintain essential services levels. Our patients are not abandonned. We strike for our patients. We are called greedy because we want a pay raise (top nurses make about 18$ US), people fail to consider the fact that we don't have enough nurses to provide care anymore because they are lured by the better salaries offered in the US.

We have not been working overtime for almost 2 months and THOUSANDS of surgeries and procedures have been cancelled (despite the fact that the union has allowed almost 3000 hours of OT to be worked in the midst of this ban to care for more urgent cases). I don't know where you work, but we are in a CRISIS. Our employer (the gov't) has its head stuck so far up its a$$ that it doesn't realize we can all move elsewhere and make more money in better conditions. We CHOOSE to stay here and are even willing to strike so that our patients will have someone to care for them in the future. I can't stand other nurses telling me I should leave the profession rather than fight to improve it.

Come work here in BC Canada for a few months. The starting pay is about 15$ an hour and it will take you six years to make 18 (and we're one of the higher paying provinces). You can care for 12 patients on a surgical floor and work 60 hours+ a week in ICU, PAR, OR, Med surg or L&D. If you do that and tell me you're not risking your patients safety and things are OK, I will denounce strikers right along with you. Something tells me that would never happen though...

fergus51 · Jun 17, 2001

OK, a strike is a distict possibility here in the next little while. However, we maintain essential services levels. Our patients are not abandonned. We strike for our patients. We are called greedy because we want a pay raise (top nurses make about 18$ US), people fail to consider the fact that we don't have enough nurses to provide care anymore because they are lured by the better salaries offered in the US.

We have not been working overtime for almost 2 months and THOUSANDS of surgeries and procedures have been cancelled (despite the fact that the union has allowed almost 3000 hours of OT to be worked in the midst of this ban to care for more urgent cases). I don't know where you work, but we are in a CRISIS. Our employer (the gov't) has its head stuck so far up its a$$ that it doesn't realize we can all move elsewhere and make more money in better conditions. We CHOOSE to stay here and are even willing to strike so that our patients will have someone to care for them in the future. I can't stand other nurses telling me I should leave the profession rather than fight to improve it.

Come work here in BC Canada for a few months. The starting pay is about 15$ an hour and it will take you six years to make 18 (and we're one of the higher paying provinces). You can care for 12 patients on a surgical floor and work 60 hours+ a week in ICU, PAR, OR, Med surg or L&D. If you do that and tell me you're not risking your patients safety and things are OK, I will denounce strikers right along with you. Something tells me that would never happen though...