Reusing medical supplies - page 3

What do you think of doctor's offices that reuse medical supplies? I am not talking about things that are sterilized and standard to be reused. Here are two examples. One, I worked as a CMA for... Read More

  1. by   MishlB
    Geez Brian...relax. Would you like a nice new cup to pee in??
  2. by   brianpribis
    [And back in the day...there were superbugs, just that now we have meds to treat them, so they are no longer so super.]

    EH!???? You need to get back to some of those books you were suppose to have read before graduating. Holy smokes, if I didn't see it with my own eyes I would have thought this was a quote from the 1960s or 70s!
  3. by   flowerchild
    BTW, my own otoscope (not the cheap kind from the drug store) came with covers that are not a throw aways. They are intended to be cleansed and reused. I use the disposable covers everyday in my clinic b/c I have them available to me and I don't have the time to cleanse the covers over and over. I sometimes wonder how many disposable items were just invented to make someone money. With MRSA, VRE, etc. I do feel more comfortable using disposables but after proper disinfection cleansing, is it really necessary to use the disposables or am I just making someone a buck? I serve over 700 pts in my clinic, my budget for gloves, disposable thermo and otoscope covers, as well as any other items I need to run it is $400 per year! (Fed $), when my budget is gone and the covers are gone..........I bet I'll be disinfecting, cleansing, antisepticing (lol), those covers. What else can I do?
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Alcohol while it dries cell membranes and theoretically kills some, is NO way to be considered a means to sterilize anything.
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by MishlB
    Geez Brian...relax. Would you like a nice new cup to pee in??
    ROFL Michelle. Your point is well-taken. But so is Brian's. Administration and others are not taking cuts to save the budget...so why should our patients have to risk their health in so doing to save a few cents?
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by flowerchild
    BTW, my own otoscope (not the cheap kind from the drug store) came with covers that are not a throw aways. They are intended to be cleansed and reused. I use the disposable covers everyday in my clinic b/c I have them available to me and I don't have the time to cleanse the covers over and over. I sometimes wonder how many disposable items were just invented to make someone money. With MRSA, VRE, etc. I do feel more comfortable using disposables but after proper disinfection cleansing, is it really necessary to use the disposables or am I just making someone a buck? I serve over 700 pts in my clinic, my budget for gloves, disposable thermo and otoscope covers, as well as any other items I need to run it is $400 per year! (Fed $), when my budget is gone and the covers are gone..........I bet I'll be disinfecting, cleansing, antisepticing (lol), those covers. What else can I do?
    I would be willing to pay the few cents (the cost outlay it REALLY represents) to get new otoscope covers and specie cups myself I am quite unwilling to bring a USED pee cup home ----where do I keep it with kids around? And WHY would I? ICK! As far as replacement ear pieces and cups, sadly, I would likely be charged about 100x that worth in the average hospital. It is an outrage what they can get for a single tylenol or pair of sterile gloves in recoupment charges! But I am willing to cover *real charges* for my own health's sake, and that of my family. But that is just me.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Dec 31, '02
  7. by   TeresaRN2b
    Let me first add that my issue was not with reusing disposable items as much as it is not properly sterilizing them. If you want to reuse otoscope covers then they should be soaked at the end of the night in the cold sterilization chemicals that the rest of the equipment is sterilized in. The way the doctor was doing this there was no checks and balances to be sure that these items were actually getting sterilized at all. You were just supposed to wipe them down with alcohol when you cleaned up the room.

    Secondly as far as the urine cups, seems ridiculous. I understand that the sterile urine cups may be more money. Why use them at all though if you aren't collecting a sterile specimen. I know I can go to the grocery store and get 200 dixie cups for $3. I am sure a doctor's office buying in quantity can get them even cheaper. I understand my results aren't probably being effected by reusing the urine cups, but why use sterile cups in the first place if you aren't concerned about having a sterile specimen.
  8. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by brianpribis
    [And back in the day...there were superbugs, just that now we have meds to treat them, so they are no longer so super.]

    EH!???? You need to get back to some of those books you were suppose to have read before graduating. Holy smokes, if I didn't see it with my own eyes I would have thought this was a quote from the 1960s or 70s!
    Shows how old you are, EH? Books aren't the only source of learning, young Brian.
  9. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    I would be willing to pay the few cents (the cost outlay it REALLY represents) to get new otoscope covers and specie cups myself I am quite unwilling to bring a USED pee cup home ----where do I keep it with kids around? And WHY would I? ICK! As far as replacement ear pieces and cups, sadly, I would likely be charged about 100x that worth in the average hospital. It is an outrage what they can get for a single tylenol or pair of sterile gloves in recoupment charges! But I am willing to cover *real charges* for my own health's sake, and that of my family. But that is just me.
    Keep those kids away from that dangerous toilet!!!!!!!Ewww gross...yucky poo poo. Gimme a break. Where do you keep anything with the kids around? IT'S A CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!WASH IT!!!!!!!!!
  10. by   brianpribis
    [Shows how old you are, EH? Books aren't the only source of learning, young Brian.]


    Oh yea! Maybe it does and myabe it doesn't. Gosh, I think I will relax to some music, now where did I put that LP?
  11. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by brianpribis
    [Shows how old you are, EH? Books aren't the only source of learning, young Brian.]


    Oh yea! Maybe it does and myabe it doesn't. Gosh, I think I will relax to some music, now where did I put that LP?
    It's over there....next to your 8-track player............
  12. by   brianpribis
    O.k., since we are talking about specimen cups:
    I was a CNA in a nursing home years back and at about 7pm the people came around with snacks for the residents. I decided to have some fun. I went and got a specimen cup (new not reused!) and filled it with lemonade. I then went to the nursing station and told the nurses that I had just emptied so-n-sos foley bag and the urin didn't look right. They all looked at it. I then said it didn't smell right, and I uncapped it and smelled it (they smelled it too). I then said it didn't taste right either and drank it real quick like. He he he. First they screamed, looked green, and then, when they figured out what I had done, came after me. (Before one of you smarties say something about wasting a perfectly good specimen cup, it was being used for theraputic purposes, a good laugh during a hard night ;-)
  13. by   brianpribis
    Originally posted by MishlB
    It's over there....next to your 8-track player............
    Hey, those were like totally far out!

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