precepting GN's - page 2
I was wondering if anyone can give their input on the legal ramifications of the licensed RN precepting GN's (graduate nurses). Some facilities now are hiring new grads who either are waiting for their NCLEX results or are... Read More
- 1Sep 14, '10 by Amy10BSNHi ! i am was a new grad, passed boards in june! I work in PA, if you are practicing as a GN in PA you have your own temporary grad nurse practice permit that is what holds you liable. The hospital should not let GN's begin unless they have that. I worked as a GN with my practice permit and did everything because i was under my own name and liable for myself this way. ((NY does this also, that is where I went to school))
Hope this helps
- 0Sep 14, '10 by diligent-trooperQuote from lilypad2424How can it be legal? How is one to judge the GN is competent if they have not taken the NCLEX? It would be the same as if they had failed it from my perspective.Totally legal. I just graduated. As soon as the board gets the pprwrk from the school, you can work as a "GN." However, I'm not sure how it works if you fail the NCLEX.
- 0Sep 14, '10 by diligent-trooperQuote from FribbletI totally agree...and, why would a hospital wish to hire an individual who hasn't demonstrated the minimum competency for providing patient care? What do they do with these individuals if they fail the NCLEX?I've never understood why some states allow people to practice as nurses before they have been licensed. It just doesn't make sense to me.
- 0Sep 14, '10 by chloecatrnQuote from diligent-trooperThey are allowed to work as Patient Care Techs/Nursing Assistants until they pass their NCLEX.I totally agree...and, why would a hospital wish to hire an individual who hasn't demonstrated the minimum competency for providing patient care? What do they do with these individuals if they fail the NCLEX?
- 0Sep 14, '10 by kloneIn AZ, at least, there is no longer a "GN" designation. It's not an official title anymore. At the hospital I worked at as a new grad, graduate nurses were called "Extern II" until they passed the NCLEX. And the AZ BON had very specific policies on scope of practice for externs, including not being allowed to start IVs, do anything with IV maintenance, or pass meds of any kind.
- 0Sep 14, '10 by persOne of my states grants a temporary GN license for RNs that is good until the NCLEX is taken or a max of 90 days (and is only good right after graduation, I believe you have to apply within 3 months but might be sooner). If they pass the NCLEX they get a permanent license, if they fail they lose the GN license. Hospitals vary in policy on what happens then, some will allow the GN to work as a PCA or secretary while others don't allow them to transition to another job (and may or may not hold the RN position till they do pass). There are also variations in how much the GN can do, some have restrictions on meds and some have no restrictions at all other than having to remain in orientation. LPNs have no such temp license available.
The other state I'm licensed in doesn't allow for a GN license.Last edit by pers on Sep 14, '10