Pot Smoking and Nursing - page 8

Im angry. I work for a small clinic in Northern CA. There are three RN's on staff at all time. Recently our Office Manager decided to start drug testing of all staff including Doctors. Well, one... Read More

  1. by   EXOTIC NURSE
    well to inform you closed minded people who make the statement that if a person smokes pot then they will hit the legal drugs as well.........that is a farce of a statement.....there have been people who have been weed smokers for years and have never done any other drug; that is a closed statement and a generalization which is not a good thing because that is like making a closed general statement that if a person is Irish they drink a lot.....( that may not be the case at all) or if a person is Jamacian they smoke weed all the time.......(that may not be the case at all) And please do not take this out of context because I am no means saying bad things about IRISH or Jamaicans and let the truth be told I am mixed with both. I am basically saying that who are we to judge anyone.....no one is perfect .....therefore we are not able to judge anyone else .........and why does life have to be bad, boring or meaningless as a reason to smoke pot or drink alcohol........when Bob Marley was asked why did he love his weed he told the world.......It is a part of my deep meditation and the base of my thoughts in the words of my songs....It allows me to go deep within myself..........
  2. by   judy ann
    I guess I'm confused. Is it okay to do something illegal so long as you don't get cought? Would it not be better to work to make the activity that you feel is harmless legal than to flaunt the law?

    BTW- I do not drink, smoke or do drugs. Not bragging or putting anyone else down, just stating facts.
  3. by   nurs4kids
    Originally posted by judy ann
    I guess I'm confused. Is it okay to do something illegal so long as you don't get cought? Would it not be better to work to make the activity that you feel is harmless legal than to flaunt the law?

    BTW- I do not drink, smoke or do drugs. Not bragging or putting anyone else down, just stating facts.
    judy ann,
    I've not seen anyone here state they actively smoke pot. I, for one, do not; hence I am doing nothing illegal. That does not change my opinion that pot is no worse than alcohol, nor does it change the fact that pot SHOULD be legal. Pot will never be legalized, the gov't makes a killing off of drug importation deals. As for working to make the activity legal...
    I have no desire for alcohol or pot, so I could care less about the legality of either. My concern is the infringement of my PRIVATE life, private time. The next step will be video surveillance in the home by the employer. "Umm, Ms. Doe, we are firing you from your position. We noticed on home video/audio surveillance that you raised your voice at your child. This is not the type behavior we wish to perpetuate in the work enviroment!"

    What a person does on their own time is NOT the employer's business...period.
  4. by   micro
    what a person does on their own time is not the employer's business .....period.....

    good night.........
  5. by   Jay Levan
    Hi gang, thought I'd get involved in this one, because I have so much experience on the subject I began Smokin' when I was 16yrs old, quit twenty years later. Did I need a program to help me quit? answer, NO! Was I addicted? answer, NO! Did I have Withdrawal symptoms? answer, NO! Why did I quit? answer, simple, To Much to lose, if caught!
    The U.S. Gov't has been "Studying" marijuanna for over 80 yrs now and what have they deduced? 1) marijuanna may lower the sperm count of males that use it? I personally know at least 10 males that have fathered 4-6 children each while using, makes me go Hmmmm? and also from personal experience, I can state emphaticly that it heightens your senses of taste, touch, smell, hearing, as well as sight. Along with these effects, it heightens your appetite for love making, as well as for food 2) it has been classified as an hallucinogen by the DEA, Yuk-phooey! That particular mis-information came from studies of mere children who in most cases got busted while smoking their first "Joint" and they were led in that direction by their investigators, think not? They would say anything the feds wanted for reduced charges! I know many people who smoked for more than twenty years and never ever ever hallucinated including myself. One must know the definition of hallucinating to know this is pure manure 3) Smoking Pot is worse for your lungs than tobacco, here I have to agree in part, smoking is smoking and as such, cannot be good for anyones lungs. However those who know this and still wish to get "High" have opted to Bake it instead and ingest it, therefor bypassing the lungs completely. Heard of anyone getting stomach cancer from eating pot? answer, NO!
    Alcohol users get in their cars and speed, eventually killing themselves, and even worse, others! Some marijuanna users do drive immediately after smoking, they stop 100 feet before a Stop sign causing those behind them great inconvenience, while having to wait for them to proceed to the grocery store
    The large majority of pot smokers will not venture out after smoking, argue if you will but that is fact based!
    Why then do alcohol abusers get sentenced to six months to a year for Driving Under Influence. While Marijanna abusers get sentenced to five to ten years jail time for their transgressions??? If they ever legalize Pot, I will partake, until then I must decline my friends offers to have a "Joint" Am I angry?, answer, I do not NEED pot, but wouldn't mind smokin' one once in awhile.
    Just got off from working 12 hr shift getting tired gotta go, but feel free to PM me, with your views on my response thus far.
  6. by   misti_z
    I too believe that what a person does away from work is their business. As long as they keep it away from work. I do not smoke now, but in my high school days I did....alot. I, like many of my peers at that time, was very functional. I never missed a day of class and graduated with a 3.7 GPA. And if it were legal I would roll one now seeing as how I have 6 days off and just got home from an awful 12 hour shift. :kiss
  7. by   thisnurse
    the alcohol industry (think about how big that is) will NEVER allow pot to be legalized. too much to lose. if pot became legal who would want to drink?

    ohbet...i dont know for sure bout that tax cheating thing. ...i only heard about that on the news.
    and the nurse practice act....im not sure what that is but i hear its
    real real important.

    the sicko student wil most likely never get thru school. they are an incompetent human so how could they be anything less in any profession they choose?
  8. by   mcl4
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay Levan
    [B]Hi gang, thought I'd get involved in this one, because I have so much experience on the subject I began Smokin' when I was 16yrs old, quit twenty years later. Did I need a program to help me quit? answer, NO! Was I addicted? answer, NO! Did I have Withdrawal symptoms? answer, NO! Why did I quit? answer, simple, To Much to lose, if caught!
    The U.S. Gov't has been "Studying" marijuanna for over 80 yrs now and what have they deduced?



    If your sixteen year old was smoking pot, would you have any concerns?
  9. by   Gomer
    TO: MICRO

    Sorry, but what you do on your off-hours is your employer's business, IF IT IS ILLEGAL.

    If anyone out there wishes to risk their licensure that's up to them...me, I worked to hard and too long to give it up now -- especially for something as silly at pot.
  10. by   micro
    gomer.........
    thx for speakin directly to me......
    what i do away from work .....is my business truly.....as long as it does not impact my work.....
    and my work and licensure i take very very very very seriously.........it comes before all,

    but I am human.....
    and my dust bunnies have names.....floppy, moppy and moe.....but i tangent off again.....gotta go get more dandelions.....

    lol,
    micro
  11. by   Gomer
    Micro -- you might want to check with your BON as they might have other ideas. Example: I know an RN who was enjoying a bright sunny day, working in his garden, having a few beers. He decided to make a quick run to the store, got pulled over by the PD, got a DUI (only had 2 beers, but the warm sunny day and the beer combo did him in), and had his license suspended for 1 year.

    Also, your employer may have a morals clause (sometimes found in the mission statement, sometimes in the employee handbook or personnel policies) which might say, "...comply with federal, state and local laws..." or "...promote the highest standards or ethics and integrity."

    I know I wont change your mind, so I wish you luck and hope if you do get caught (not that you ever do anything illegal), you find a kind judge and and understanding BON.
  12. by   micro
    sorry, micro steps out of this argument.....should have never got in.........
    no i don't do anything illegal.....except have a lead foot not under the influence except of working way too many hours sometimes.........
    gomer, no disrespect.....see valid points more your way than the other.........you gotta read between the dots with micro.........
    but i is who is is.........so i step.........
    but what i do do behind closed doors,etc on my own time is indeed my own business...........like right now.........

    OUT
  13. by   Jay Levan
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by mcl4
    [B]
    Originally posted by Jay Levan
    Hi gang, thought I'd get involved in this one, because I have so much experience on the subject I began Smokin' when I was 16yrs old, quit twenty years later. Did I need a program to help me quit? answer, NO! Was I addicted? answer, NO! Did I have Withdrawal symptoms? answer, NO! Why did I quit? answer, simple, To Much to lose, if caught!
    The U.S. Gov't has been "Studying" marijuanna for over 80 yrs now and what have they deduced?


    If your sixteen year old was smoking pot, would you have any concerns?
    mcl4, First, let me say that if you believe that you or any other parent can watch their children 24/7 I believe you have missed the train Second, Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that alcohol is "Illegal for anyone under the age of 21yrs of age Can you estimate how many teens in this country are partaking of alcoholic beverages? Third, I am concerned for all children, not just my own, and certainly would not recommend any substance to any Child, however when they become "Old enough to Die for their Country" I believe they also should be granted the right to choose their own form of relaxation, meditation, and yes even which drug they wish to choose. Are you aware that anyone can now walk into any E.R. and claim Pain at a "10" level and get anything they want, Morphine, Demerol, Dilaudid, if they play a little game called "This medicine is not Helping I need something Stronger." Until the M.D. gives them what they want!??? OSHA says "Only patient can evaluate his/her pain Is that OK?

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