Organ Donation and Homosexuals - page 5

Hey everyone. I had a pt come into the ER in full cardiac arrest. Didn't make it. 56 yr old really sad. He had a life partner who was extremely distraught and actually signed in to get medication... Read More

  1. by   maryshome8
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    Monogamous relationship? Monogamy is the custom or condition of having only one mate during a period of time. So, two people in a monogamous relationship that practice [lack of a better word] anal sex certainly provide a shadow of doubt.
    I disagree with you....both men and women engage in anal sex and because of the TYPE of sexual activity someone engages in, is not correlated, in any way, of how many sexual partners they have.

    There are people that have been married for 50 years and their spouse has cheated on them the entire time...but it's ASSUMED that they are in a monogamous relationship.

    That is what is wrong with the organ donation program..too many assumptions.
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  3. by   maryshome8
    Quote from BabyRN2Be
    And I find this to be very sad. There are so many people who could benefit by organ donation. If the person was deemed not to be infected with HIV or Hep, I feel that they should be eligible for donation. But in a case like this in which this man died suddenly, I guess there isn't time to verify that these tests have been done.
    But they assume that everyone else doesn't engage in high-risk behavior, or that women are incapable of it. Anyone and everyone could possibly be infected with HIV (even children who may receive it at birth)..I just think it's sad that "they" still treat HIV as a gay disease, because it isn't. More heterosexuals are getting HIV than homosexuals.
  4. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from maryshome8
    I disagree with you....both men and women engage in anal sex and because of the TYPE of sexual activity someone engages in, is not correlated, in any way, of how many sexual partners they have.

    There are people that have been married for 50 years and their spouse has cheated on them the entire time...but it's ASSUMED that they are in a monogamous relationship.

    That is what is wrong with the organ donation program..too many assumptions.
    Okay... but, I do agree with you.
  5. by   NurseguyFL
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    CG: We know not their (homosexuals') sexual practices, definately. Who can say for sure that hetero's don't engage in MUCH riskier behaviors??? Let's don't go there please.

    And the point about health care workers then being extremely high risk, and therefore potentially ineligible is well-taken by me.
    Very well said! The gay/straight thing really doesn't mean a whole lot these days because there are a lot of people out there, representing all points on the Kinsey scale who're doing all sorts of things that are high-risk---drugs, unprotected sex...you name it. Yet the majority of these people are presumed 'ok' as long as they are not male homosexuals??? What an unfortunate assumption! Even the CDC is now recommending that everyone be tested for HIV as a part of their routine medical assessment.
  6. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from NurseguyFL
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes
    CG: We know not their (homosexuals') sexual practices, definately. Who can say for sure that hetero's don't engage in MUCH riskier behaviors??? Let's don't go there please.

    And the point about health care workers then being extremely high risk, and therefore potentially ineligible is well-taken by me.


    Very well said! The gay/straight thing really doesn't mean a whole lot these days because there are a lot of people out there, representing all points on the Kinsey scale who're doing all sorts of things that are high-risk---drugs, unprotected sex...you name it. Yet the majority of these people are presumed 'ok' as long as they are not male homosexuals??? What an unfortunate assumption! Even the CDC is now recommending that everyone be tested for HIV as a part of their routine medical assessment.
    NurseguyFL - I NEVER POSTED IT TO BE A MALE HOMOSEXUAL ISSUE! I assure you I was misquoted/misunderstood.

    Please, see my previous post #37
    Last edit by Corvette Guy on Sep 29, '06
  7. by   mercyteapot
    There was an episode on ER once, I believe it related to a liver transplant. An AIDS patient died and had an HIV+ friend who needed a liver. I believe it was Carter who okayed the transplant. It was a very thought provoking show.
  8. by   Melina
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    Monogamous relationship? Monogamy is the custom or condition of having only one mate during a period of time. So, two people in a monogamous relationship that practice [lack of a better word] anal sex certainly provide a shadow of doubt.
    What???
  9. by   Melina
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    Safe then to include the above partners do not practice anal sex... just to clarify?
    Whether they have anal sex which each other or not, they can't give each other a virus neither of them brought into the relationship.

    ~Mel'
  10. by   rambisisking
    I am getting that corvette guy is saying that anal sex presents it's own problems even in a monogams relationship, could that be right corvette guy?
  11. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from rambisisking
    I am getting that corvette guy is saying that anal sex presents it's own problems even in a monogams relationship, could that be right corvette guy?

    It has to go beyond that, though, to include the fact that virii are so easily spread due by this particular activity. It isn't that the behavior causes the virus, it just makes it easier to spread.
  12. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from Melina
    What???
    ... regards to both homosexual & heterosexual monogomous relationships which practice unsafe sex. I was NOT intending to be negatively bias towards homosexuals in the least bit.

    Still confused, LOL?
  13. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from rambisisking
    I am getting that Corvette Guy is saying that anal sex presents it's own problems even in a monogamous relationship, could that be right Corvette Guy?
    YES Rambisisking, you got it!

    :bowingpur ... thank you for understanding!

    Two things I hate, is being misunderstood & ignored.

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