Nurses and smoking - page 16

Do you think it is ok if a nurse or a doctor smokes? Because i know when i go to the doctors office with my boyfriend and he tells him that he smokes that he gos on and on of how he shouldnt be... Read More

  1. by   thatoneguy
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Mercy, honey, don't waste your time here.....

    Come back to talk on the Grownup side of the BB, and leave this alone.

    Some minds are open, a few are merely cracked, some shut.....

    .....and others are welded closed and could not be opened with blasting powder, and some C4.

    Have you ever heard the saying, "The empty wagon, makes the most noise."?
    so is this statement coming from a open mind or a welded closed mind? think about it, who has the closed mind here. as i have said i am for a ban on smoking period. but support on banning it does not mean anyone should disrespect others that have a different view. its a free country and a democratic society, if the vote did not go your way no need to take it out on the individual.
    "the empty wagon, makes the most noise." ture, and who is making the most noise on this subject. the non-smoker of course. have you ever voted for it? or got a petition going, lobbied administration or anything other than personal attacks on individuals? the focus should not be on the individual thats my point in case you did not get it.
  2. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from thatoneguy
    so is this statement coming from a open mind or a welded closed mind? think about it, who has the closed mind here. as i have said i am for a ban on smoking period. but support on banning it does not mean anyone should disrespect others that have a different view. its a free country and a democratic society, if the vote did not go your way no need to take it out on the individual.
    "the empty wagon, makes the most noise." ture, and who is making the most noise on this subject. the non-smoker of course. have you ever voted for it? or got a petition going, lobbied administration or anything other than personal attacks on individuals? the focus should not be on the individual thats my point in case you did not get it.
    I believe that carol was speaking of the almost frantic nature of froghair's posts, given the gigantic font and repeated posts when no one responded. I thought a simple one line statement would assure him/her that yes, the post has been viewed and apparently isn't going to draw a response (other than the one you so cleverly pointed out that I posted. What a wit.) It is not at all my opinion that most people accept smoking. Where I live, anti-smoking initiatives have consistently been successful at the ballot box, so clearly this middle ground of which you speak varies from group to group. So, in my case, the answer is yes, of course I've done something about my aversion to smoking. I have signed every petition for anti-smoking legislation that has ever been presented to me and I've casted my vote each time an initiative has been on the ballot.
  3. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from thatoneguy
    ...i have seen nurses complain about another nurses smoking habits to a patient. trying to get the patinet to complain about it. now thats sad.
    I agree, that is so wrong to get patients involved with something that has nothing to do with why they are in the hospital.
  4. by   jimthorp
    Quote from thatoneguy
    its a free country and a democratic society,
    Let me correct you if I may. We do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic society. The majority does not always rule.
    Last edit by jimthorp on Jan 28, '06
  5. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from jimthorp
    We do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic society. The majority does not always rule.
    :roll ... go smoke on the moon with the Lunar Republic Society :roll
  6. by   jimthorp
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    :roll ... go smoke on the moon with the Lunar Republic Society :roll
    You can insult me all you like but it does not change the facts.

    Does this ring a bell? "I pledge allegiance to The Flag of The United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands"
    Last edit by jimthorp on Jan 28, '06
  7. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from jimthorp
    You can insult me all you like but it does not change the facts.

    Does this ring a bell? "I pledge allegiance to The Flag of The United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands"
    I never meant to insult you... just trying to add a little humor into a serious Thread.

    I agree, by definition [Merriam Webster] republic;
    1] a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch & usually a
    president
    2] a government in which supreme power is held by the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives governing according to law...

    However, Merriam Webster defines democracy;

    2] as a government in which the supreme power is held by the people...

    Therefore, often times republic & democracy are thought of as one in the same, IMHO.
  8. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from mercyteapot
    I believe that carol was speaking of the almost frantic nature of froghair's posts, given the gigantic font and repeated posts when no one responded.
    Actually there are several closed minds and empty wagons.
  9. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Actually there are several closed minds and empty wagons.
    :redlight:
  10. by   jimthorp
    America is a republic, a constitutional Republic of a democratic (one man - one vote) nature.

    A Rebulic is ruled by law whereas a democracy is ruled by the majority vote. Even if a 51% majority wanted to bring back slavery it won't happen because it is against the law. A pure democracy is actually a Communist idea.
  11. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from jimthorp
    America is a republic, a constitutional Republic of a democratic (one man - one vote) nature.

    A Rebulic is ruled by law whereas a democracy is ruled by the majority vote. Even if a 51% majority wanted to bring back slavery it won't happen because it is against the law. A pure democracy is actually a Communist idea.
    OMG, who said anything about slavery? :uhoh21:

    Anyway, lets' get back on topic with the discussion of nurses & smoking, okay my friend?
  12. by   jimthorp
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    OMG, who said anything about slavery? :uhoh21:

    Anyway, lets' get back on topic with the discussion of nurses & smoking, okay my friend?
    That was just an example demonstrate the difference between a democracy and a republic. Anyway you are correct. I have strayed from the topic.

    I do not believe that any healthcare provider should come into work smelling of tobacco smoke.
  13. by   momedsurglpn
    I just want to say that I really dont want to be a nurse anymore!!! For 20 yrs I have taken care of my patients with intelligence, compassion* and have always been nonjudgmental * as I was taught in school!!! How in the ---- do all of you call yourselves "a nurse"!! There are lots of things people do that I believe is not right or proper or whatever but I am there to help them, period!!!! People try to commit suicide and I feel that's wrong, but I am able to put my feelings aside to help them--because thats what a nurse does!!!! PERIOD...... WE ARE NOT HEALTH ZEALOTS OR HEALTH NAZIS... and I for one strongly believe we do not need to put ourselves up on some PEDESTAL that we are better than others because we "don't smoke", we "don't eat too much", we "excercise", we "are so superior" !!!! Some people really don't want to live forever and I for one support their "choice". Wonderful world, right? I work with both smoking and nonsmoking "nurses" and my opinion is this: Doesn't matter to me. PERIOD! What matters to me and to my patients is if you have the skills it takes!!! PERIOD!!!! I have occasionally thought that perhaps a nonsmoking nurse possibly could use a smoke but even that wouldn't help with SKILLS! Same goes for the smokers!!! PERIOD!!!!!! DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING to do with the kind of nurse or doctor you are!! PERIOD!!!!
    Last edit by momedsurglpn on Jan 29, '06

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