Letting off Steam, hope my extinguisher is ready - page 3

by BuckyBadgerRN 3,879 Views | 27 Comments

OK, this is just my personal rant for the day (maybe week, we'll see) and even though I am probably going to come across as looking petty/catty, I'm going to let it fly anyway. Even if noone is willing to agree with me here, I... Read More


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    And Jeweles26 also gives evidence that some immigrants have a much better mastery of English than some native US citizens. Welcome. Glad you're here.
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    Quote from purplerose3
    I understand. It's hard. I was born in my city and have lived my whole life in my city and worked hard to gain knowledge and experience in nursing. I'm struggling trying to make ends meet with a part-time position and a per diem. I have a family. Every organization when filling out an application asks what race. I know they have to try to meet hiring so many minorities. I know for a fact that they've given jobs to minorities over me becuase they need to meet certain amount for regulation/government. That is racist toward me. Anybody would feel the same if your home country was giving away jobs to those coming from another country before their own citizens. It's like okay then I guess for every new college grad that immigrates to US one citizen from US shouldn't have to move to another country because we're being displaced.
    It actually does not ask your race on the application, that's illegal. It's in the post-hire paperwork, "for reporting purposes," and you can choose not to answer it. There are American citizens who were born in this country and whose families have been here for hundreds of years who are not of the Caucasian race, who are considered "minorities" as well. Be careful assuming that every or even most brown-skinned people are immigrants taking a job from a Caucasian American.

    That being said, I agree with the OP. It's ridiculous that you can come on allnurses.com and read all kinds of stories about nurses being 1,2 years out of school and not getting jobs, and then you have places like a certain hospital in Atlanta that has an old dorm that has since become a dedicated housing unit for imported nurses. But, the others are right, most hospitals aren't doing this in the current economic climate.

    And I hate the customer service center calls!! Comcast lady in the Philippines never even submitted my dispute claim, couldn't understand me, agghhh! I didn't know I had a choice, I will definitely request to be re-routed next time.
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    Quote from GrnTea
    And Jeweles26 also gives evidence that some immigrants have a much better mastery of English than some native US citizens. Welcome. Glad you're here.
    Thanks very much! However, I am here on a TN status, which is a non-immigration work status. One of the requirements for this is proving I don't intend to permanently immigrate to the US. It was simpler and much less expensive than the H1b route, especially since H1b requires sponsorship and no one wants to sponsor anymore. But I do appreciate the welcome!
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    It's pretty ignorant of you to think that the people you're complaining about haven't been through the level of adversity as you have. Some of them arrive with nothing but a bag of clothes. I'm Canadian but isn't America a place where one can come with a single penny and through hard work and dedication become successful? What do you guys call it the American dream? Anyways much of the anger in this thread is directed at the wrong people. You should take this up with your member of congress (or whatever you call it down there) as they're the ones who allow it, no sense in blaming people who are just looking for a better life (legally).
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    Excellent post PRICHARILLAisMISSED. My company outsources all of our radiology. None of our films are read in the US. They are all read in India. I occasionally have patients complain that they want their film read by an "American" trained radiologist. Why the heck they care about this I have no idea, since India has some of the best trained physicians in the world, lol (and it isn't as though they have to speak to the radiologist and -gasp- deal with an accent ). But Ok, if that is what you want. Of course, you will pay 4X and much and wait 3X as long for the result, and you will have to find one and refer yourself because we are not contracted with a single local radiologist (except for interventionalists). So here's the yellow pages, go for it. People are blinded by their xenophobia, jingoism and prejudice.
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    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    Yes, and what I'm trying to say is that I could post just as many links to posts from an immigration forum that I'm a member of r/t foreign RNs who end up in the US and need help figuring our licensing etc. because they happened to marry an American citizen. None of your links would suggest otherwise -- that the OPs somehow managed to secure a non-existent visa pathway into the US solely in order to secure a job that would otherwise have been given to an American citizen.
    It seems you're trying to frame this as an argument when it isn't. My only intention with the links was to tell you where I read that many new grads from foreign schools had their dreams of working here crushed. I have no expertise in H1 Visas or sponsoring rules, so I thought those forums could supply the details that I don't have.
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    Quote from purplerose3
    I understand. It's hard. I was born in my city and have lived my whole life in my city and worked hard to gain knowledge and experience in nursing. I'm struggling trying to make ends meet with a part-time position and a per diem. I have a family. Every organization when filling out an application asks what race. I know they have to try to meet hiring so many minorities. I know for a fact that they've given jobs to minorities over me becuase they need to meet certain amount for regulation/government. That is racist toward me. Anybody would feel the same if your home country was giving away jobs to those coming from another country before their own citizens. It's like okay then I guess for every new college grad that immigrates to US one citizen from US shouldn't have to move to another country because we're being displaced.
    Every time I fill out an application and put down that I'm a "white female" I wonder if I'm instantly disqualifying myself because they need a male or someone from a different ethnic background. It's crazy. I know I have the option not to answer, but I'd rather not waste my time being sent on interviews to places where they need a minority and a white female is not a minority in nursing. It's really unsettling when you personally know people you went to school with who are bordering on incompetent, but they are employed simply because they fit into the right box.
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    Thanks for reading it, Bluedevil,DNP. I just wanted everyone to understand that some companies have little choice but to outsource some of their services. The way businesses are taxed today, it is almost suicidal for the corporation not to outsource something. And YES, businesses are taxed to high heaven. And President Obama is about to make it even tougher on them. This will lead to more outsourcing for not just wider profit margins, but also for survival in many cases. The Affordable Health Insurance act (Obamacare), while it has its good components, is going to DEVASTATE many businesses bottom lines. Noble as the intention behind it is... So outsourcing is going to be the SAVIOR of many Americans who are CURRENTLY employed. This must be balanced against The jobs that may not be had by job seekers.


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