I am being disciplined. What Now? - page 2

Every nurse at one time or another loathes the words "HR needs to see you" or "You need to go speak to the manager" even if you are well aware that you made a mistake, and that you are going to have... Read More

  1. Visit  sistasoul profile page
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    Yes, sometimes there is favoritism. I have been written up with out my side of the story being asked. The write up was already in place and then I got to tell my side of the story but it did not seem to matter.
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  3. Visit  armyicurn profile page
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    Quote from Chisca
    Unless you rock the boat. I wrote a letter to the director of nursing pointing out the danger to patients by assigning 5:1 in the step down unit. I was called to the directors office where they thanked me for my concern and oh, by the way, we have reviewed your charting for the past 6 months and there are a number of "discrepancies". The message was clear. Not only could they fire me, right to work state an all that entails, they could cause harm to my licensure if they wanted to call the board of nursing. In the field of nursing management has huge power and you are kidding yourself if you don't think you will have conflict at some point in your career. A nurses highest obligation is to their patient, not their employer. And the employers highest goal is to make a profit, safety be damned.
    Seems to me like your management team is made up of a bunch of POS's! You point out something serious and in return they sugarcoat your discovery and also give you an "ultimatum" that basically says don't )))(;:;(@& with the management!
  4. Visit  New_Man_Nurse profile page
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    I've had 3 positions since I became a ADN-RN. Two of those companies were unethical, and likely medically incompetent to be treating patient's. One of those 2 was really good, except for the DON telling me in my first meeting in front of my LPN's that my new shirt made me look like a child molester. I'm not impressed with management, I'm only impressed with those people I've met that get the job done for the patient, that put their patients concerns before those of their facilities. There are good Doctor's out there, good nurses, good CNA's, good LPN's, good volunteers. Any RN's I went to school with will self-correct long before a patient becomes jeopardized. I don't worry about them.

    So far I'm not impressed with 85% of the personnel in the facilities I've worked in. So far what Ive seen mostly is incompetence from Administration and RN's that are pill pusher's, mostly the bottom line is money for the physician's and facilities, and most of the nurses I've worked with.
  5. Visit  kf15 profile page
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    Great! I could not have said it better. This country is a 100% pro corporate environment, which means corporations (which are now "people" thanx to Justice Roberts and his republican Supreme Court) and corporations have a single goal- profit. So do right by the corporation and keep the patient in mind as you go along, and you should be fine. But think of yourself as you perform your job b/c NOONE else cares about us. Not the company, and not the patients. It's not all so bad once you get used to it, it's just modern reality, and it's the SAME in all fields.
  6. Visit  cuhome profile page
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    "Rarely does anyone get blindsided with a disciplinary action. Most of the time we know if we screwed up. What is wrong with accepting responsibility for what we have done and move on? Not often is someone fired for a "first offense", unless it is something major. In that case they deserve to be fired."

    Well, this is quite na´ve. Having been in the nursing workforce for 20 years, I can tell you that people do get fired for a "first offense", and they don't always "deserve to be fired". In addition, people can easily get blindsided. Watch your backside, document as though your career depended upon it (because it might). As one MD friend of mine said once, "When somebody sues somebody in the medical field, they'll blame the janitor if they can, just to avoid taking the hit themselves." You-know-what runs downstream. HM-8404, I'm sure your intent was good, but consider what I've said. It will serve you well.
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  7. Visit  kf15 profile page
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    Quote from New_Man_Nurse
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    So far I'm not impressed with 85% of the personnel in the facilities I've worked in. So far what Ive seen mostly is incompetence from Administration and RN's that are pill pusher's, mostly the bottom line is money for the physician's and facilities, and most of the nurses I've worked with.
    I hear your dissatisfaction w/ a profit-driven workforce. I too was there, but I quickly got over those feelings after I was "released" from my 1st RN job of 2 yrs when an LPN on my shift made a medically unrelated, non harmful administrative infraction. I would learn afterwards that mgmt politics was driving the issue, but for me the result was my immediate dismissal by "human" resources OVER THE TELEPHONE on a 3 way call the next day.
    I was thrown out of my position like a bag of garbage by "human" resources and my DON, who wouldn't spend an ounce of energy in my defense. Only 2 yrs later would I rejoice when I learned that that DON was fired the same way, for an equally invalid reason.
    This is what happens in a "right to work" state. This is what profit driven corporations do. To bemoan the attitudes of the RNs laboring in this system is to miss the big picture- people are slowly developing the attitudes of their bosses and employers, mainly b/c noone feels secure. And they feel insecure for good reason, b/c corporations make sure that workers know they are replaceable.
    Oh, and many if not most patients are looking for someone to blame for any little thing. They complain about and berate the very people who keep them healthy and alive, and actually expect good smiling service in response.
    So basically, it is people at all levels who are responsible for the "attitude" we see everywhere. Only when the country changes en masse wil things improve.
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  8. Visit  kf15 profile page
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    Very well said. In school we are taught the Pollyanna "patient comes first" and in the reality of the workforce we learn (usually the very hard way) that the employer is the boss and you had better please the corporation. I educate the medical staff that reports to me, in a professional and intentionally vague way, to do right by the company, mgmt and the patient.
    The wise staff understand & work wisely, & in their best interests. But there are plenty who continue to see patients as wonderful needy humans simply in need of care, and not consider them as potential career enders. They are both, and should be treated appropriately as both.
    That said, I still like my career.
  9. Visit  HM-8404 profile page
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    I need to get a list of the non-right to work states. I want a job where everyone is patted on the back and handed a cup of coffee as they walk in the door. I want a job where my job is never on the line, unless I intentionally kill someone of course. I want to live in a state where going to work is like coming home.

    I want to work for a profit driven company. I know what it is like to come to work on Wed and be told, "We are closing Friday. The economy has just gotten to bad for us to be profitable." It wasn't the economy, it was **** poor management.

    Quote from kf15
    I hear your dissatisfaction w/ a profit-driven workforce. I too was there, but I quickly got over those feelings after I was "released" from my 1st RN job of 2 yrs when an LPN on my shift made a medically unrelated, non harmful administrative infraction. I would learn afterwards that mgmt politics was driving the issue, but for me the result was my immediate dismissal by "human" resources OVER THE TELEPHONE on a 3 way call the next day.
    I was thrown out of my position like a bag of garbage by "human" resources and my DON, who wouldn't spend an ounce of energy in my defense. Only 2 yrs later would I rejoice when I learned that that DON was fired the same way, for an equally invalid reason.
    This is what happens in a "right to work" state. This is what profit driven corporations do. To bemoan the attitudes of the RNs laboring in this system is to miss the big picture- people are slowly developing the attitudes of their bosses and employers, mainly b/c noone feels secure. And they feel insecure for good reason, b/c corporations make sure that workers know they are replaceable.
    Oh, and many if not most patients are looking for someone to blame for any little thing. They complain about and berate the very people who keep them healthy and alive, and actually expect good smiling service in response.
    So basically, it is people at all levels who are responsible for the "attitude" we see everywhere. Only when the country changes en masse wil things improve.
  10. Visit  Xerxes801 profile page
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    I am in the same boat you were in.So this must be a common thing in this field. Soon as the state left I got suspended on some off the wall reason. Smh.
    Last edit by dianah on Jul 1, '13 : Reason: Terms of Service
  11. Visit  hospicern030363 profile page
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    Believe me - often we are blindsided and often we are attacked by management.
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  12. Visit  hospicern030363 profile page
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    Please - don't tell me what works best for pain management. If I have a Rx from my doctor for a med and test positive for it, my employer can't do a thing about it. Not all who use pain meds get addicted. And for pt's with bone cancer NSAIDs are used at times in addition to a narcotic.
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  13. Visit  jeanbeth profile page
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    I have been in the workforce in a management role (I have an MBA) and in now in my second career as a nurse I have to disagree with you. At my facility it is not rare to get blindsided with a disciplinary action. The latest was when the CNL altered the caredex after the MD's orders had been taken off and then disciplined six nurses who had initialed the MAR but not followed the caredex. Problem was she altered the caredex 2 weeks AFTER we had worked the unit. We have no union and the lawyer I consulted said we had a case to remove the write-ups from our file, but they could lay us off with no explanation necessary. The CNL is gone but the actions remain in our file. And four other nurses who are friends of the HR VP did not get written up. Copies of the MD order, the altered caredex, and altered MAR were not considered enough proof to rescind the actions. State of CT has been notified anonomously but so far no action taken.
  14. Visit  qaqueen profile page
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    [QUOTE=HM-8404;7393901]. Rarely does anyone get blindsided with a disciplinary action. ... What is wrong with accepting responsibility for what we have done and move on?
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    Really? I have never in my 20+ years of working in other business been blindsided. As a nurse, it only took 4 years for me to be totally taken aback. I am an adult and completely willing to accept responsibility for my errors.

    I fear that you may be in for a surprise when you graduate.
    Last edit by qaqueen on Jul 21, '13 : Reason: incomplete
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