confused over titles !! - page 3
Forgive my ignorance... was reading some of the posts here and well quite frankly I'm confused ! I'm a UK RGN, USA seems to have so many "different" nurse titles, and yet ya all nurses !! Here in the... Read More
Dec 4, '00Oh....... Peace is restored on my issue but.... *****, susie I just ain't gettin into this one !!! OMG, what have ya started?? LOLOLOLOLOLOL, From the innocent query I asked, the answers are long and varied, as you can see but if i was you I'd close down me putor now... Can of worms ??? More like a neuclear explosion I'm thinking..
:-p, good luck, lolololol
Dec 4, '00[LOL Lita, yes laugh out loud... This was my origional question !! about US titles, but then got into debate about UK titles [img]/bb/biggrin.gif[/img], anyway RGN = Registered GENERAL Nurse... this course turned you into an all round every department Nurse, during training we did a stint in all areas,(Now obsolete) and no diploma on qualifying, RN = Registered Nurse, This is still a three year course and you do some practice in all areas but you get the option to branch into whatever speciality ie, adult, peads, mental health etc.. more theory and therefore a diploma at qualifying, now I have tried to simplify this explaination as my origional query generated a huge debate !! We are ALL nurses andlets face it there are good and bad in all professions.... no matter what level of academia we study at we all practice to the best of our ability with increasing stresses
due to budgetery constraints, but we all entered to become a NURSE, The one solution for this I think,should be a unified title, something like CFP, caring for people!! So take care, Tina CFP, signing off [img]/bb/biggrin.gif[/img]
Dec 10, '00Tina,
I think I can cut to the chase. Think of the Great Apes who thump their great barrel chests to scare off the other apes and establish their dominance in the clan/tribe.
Of course we're all basic Nurses inside, so we have to have some kind of Acronym or Initializing method to establish our dominance in our great Nursing Tribe. Look, anybody can get an education. Does it make one a better person? Of course not. Nursing in general, (in the 20th and now 21st century)is like a wayward child, crying out to be heard, all the while forgetting that we already have a history that is thousands of years old. All those initials only serve to confuse the public along with other nurses in our own profession and call attention to our own tottering professional self esteem.
Initials do not denote greatness, but rather they are a stab at questionable self assuredness. But, ya gotta admit, all those initials sure give rise to great possibilities don't they?
p.rabbit, AA-RN, CRTT, RD, OD, IUD, DDT, MRSA,............ad nauseum
Dec 11, '00Hello Tina
I am RN too like you and i am planning to work in Scotland
I am mainly interested in ER and also OR and i would also like to have continuing education so that i can get a master degree.
I never worked in Uk before. Do you some advices for me.
I don't really know how it works there : shift hours, training, salary, management, salary, insurance
I have often been said life was expensive there. What do you think ?
I guess your experience will be positive for me.
Have a nice day
Dec 11, '00Tina, I don't know if you get the same nursing journals over there or not, but the December issue of Nursing 2000, page 57, has an article titled "ABCs: What do these initials mean?" This is a 2 column list of other initials that can be seen following a nurse's name here in the US, and these are some of the ones that may be cause of resentment/jealosy amoung some nurses. I had to dig it out to see what (if any) of p.rabbits initials stood for. I think he's pulling our legs, and I suspected it only by the last 4 initials: MRSA! Thanks for the alphabet soup homework, p. rabbit! :-)
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Dec 11, '00Now if that article doesn't cause more confusion I don't know what will. Just looked at the Nursing 2000 article and boy-o-boy do we nurses ever have TON of initials we can use. If we all used these on our nametags we'd run out of room for our name! Yikes!
Dec 11, '00Hi Jenny, No we don't get the same journals here !!! has nursing 2000 got a site I could visit?? would like to read that article Thanx... Tina
Dec 11, '00Tina,
I don't know if the article is online but Nursing2000's site is www.springnet.com.
Dec 12, '00And to add to the confusion, at our hospital during a "redesign" several years ago, the RN's now became known as Patient Care Managers, the LPN's had the option of becoming Critical Care Partners (a nurse's aid) or finding another job. The kitchen help could be seen doing housekeeping chores in patient rooms, the housekeeping help started doing blood draws. It was really scary. The PCM, and CCP, titles continue, but we no longer have LPN's at all, which is a crying shame, IMHO!
Imagine being able to pass meds, do treatments, change dressings, etc., one day, and not being able to the next, just because the management can't "get" it.
I personally claim the following inititals: RN, ADN, NFH, and BAC, charter member.
The last two I made up myself, and have them on my locker door and a couple of shirts I wear! Smilies to anybody who can figure them out.
Dec 14, '00Tina, sorry to complicate matters, but did you say 'we used to have RGN's & EN's and now have only Diploma & Degree nurses'. I am a staff nuse in learning disability, and enrolled nurses are still alive and kicking.
Dec 21, '00Rie........ sorry it sounds like En's are none existant from my post, it should have read that we do not train nurses as EN's any longer... I know there are a few, EN's still kicking about, but where I work, (a huge teaching hospital) there is not one left the hosp: paid for all to convert to 1st level.. which is a great pity for the EN's were rich in knowledge and expertise at the bedside but were held back because of that extra year training, I know this first hand as I was an EN and enjoyed every minute of my years of nursing before Diploma.