Nurses General Nursing
Published Jun 8, 2009
anangelsmommy, ADN, BSN, RN
240 Posts
:bugeyes:I need help with care planning for a battered woman! I posted under the student section but I think it is mostly other students and I really want experienced help. I looked this up on the internet and in every care planning book I have and cant find anything besides diagnosis. I have no experience with this so here goes:
battered woman comes in with headaches, one week after her husband gave her a concussion. So obviously headache is diagnosis of pain. but I am more concerned with the woman in the violent situation that still lives with the husband. So I said diagnosis violence, other directed? but does that mean other directed at her or her directing violence at others? next, I have no idea what goals or nursing actions to take other than to give her information to a shelter or womans group and goal of her leaving the violent situation?
for this care plan I need long and short term goals and at least 3 nursing actions for each. So lets just say I said a short term goal of no further injury? how would you possibly have her avoid injury if it is the husband that has control over that? I cant tell her not to make him angry - she is not the one that controls his anger,right? and that just seems so wrong. but I have no experience with this and not sure what else to include? I know in our previous classes, they had talked about having the woman make an escape plan with a code word but I dont really know how to go about this and I sort of invision that if she trys to pick up the phone in the middle of a violent episode, it might make him more angry and he might just hit it out of her hand?
what do you think? anyone with actual experience that can help or anyone that may have even just learned about this situation in more detail than I did?
thanks!!!
Daytonite, BSN, RN
1 Article; 14,604 Posts
a care plan is about determining a patient's nursing needs and developing interventions to help them. a nursing diagnosis is merely a label that describes in shorthand what a nursing problem is. its definition gives a more specific description of what it is. all actual nursing problems (nursing diagnoses) are based upon signs and symptoms that the patient has that are found during the assessment of the patient. this is very similar to what detectives do in looking for clues to the crimes that people commit except we don't always know what diagnosis we are looking for. there is a method to doing this called the nursing process. what a care plan book does for you is eliminate having to go through the nursing process. however, care plan books only cover the common medical diseases and conditions. when less common problems arise, the nursing process needs to be used in solving these nursing problems. follow the steps of the nursing process to do this. i demonstrate how this is done all the time in this thread: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-student/help-care-plans-286986.html - help with care plans. nursing diagnoses that begin with the words "risk for" are potential nursing problems that do not exist yet and, therefore, do not have any signs or symptoms.
step #1 assessment - collect as much information as you can before you even begin thinking about what the nursing problems (nursing diagnoses) are. assessment consists of:
step #2 determination of the patient's problem(s)/nursing diagnosis part 1 - make a list of the abnormal assessment data - all diagnoses are based upon abnormal data. now you have a better base of information from which to put a list of symptoms together. up to this point the only abnormal data that you had was:
step #2 determination of the patient's problem(s)/nursing diagnosis part 2 - match your abnormal assessment data to likely nursing diagnoses, decide on the nursing diagnoses to use - every nursing diagnosis has a definition, set of defining characteristics (signs and symptoms) and includes some related factors (causes or reasons they happen). a nursing diagnosis reference should be consulted to make sure you are using a nursing diagnosis correctly. more recently published care plan books will include this information in them if all the nursing diagnoses have been used. the appendix of current editions of taber's cyclopedic medical dictionary will have the information, and about 80 of the most commonly used nursing diagnoses are included with that information on these 2 websites:
based on the data you have provided i would diagnose in this priority:
step #3 planning (write measurable goals/outcomes and nursing interventions) - nursing interventions are based upon the aeb items for each diagnosis. the goals are what you predict will happen when the nursing interventions are performed. . .
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is it risk for violence or just plain violence?
i was thinking perhaps you help her make a plan to escape if (but of course she feels unsafe all the time perhaps have her form a codeword and the number she can reach you and you call 911? but would you give out your number to a client? in class we talked all about having a client that was in a violent situation have a code word but who is she calling? perhaps a family member? i am at a loss for the nursing actions and goals.
now that i came back and actually read what you put into this post which was a tad different from what you posted on the nursing student discussion forum, where i also posted the above reply which took me approximately 2 hours to put together for you, i am going to tell you to read the weblinks on domestic violence that i found for you and not rely on others to give you this information. a big part of this assignment is to learn about the patient's condition. you are not learning well if you are depending on second hand information.
please read what i posted for you. there is a great deal of information i put in there for you. your interventions for any diagnosis are based upon the symptoms that you have to support it. what diagnosis are you asking about and what symptoms do you have to support it? based on the 3 symptoms you gave in the nursing student discussion forum i was able to come up with 4 nursing diagnoses for you. the 4th diagnosis is the one that supports strategies to get the patient away from her abusive spouse. the goal for it (and i gave you that as well) is to prevent the violence. again, please read what i posted. i covered everything, but i wasn't going to write the entire care plan for you--there are some things you have to do yourself. please go to the websites i posted on domestic violence to get information on what is done for it.
thank you, I did read it and I will read the articles. I certainly dont want anyone to do the work for me...I just have no experience with violence and we only covered it in my lpn classes in a little blip in fundamentals. I feel like the headaches part I can do, it is something that I have dealth with, have had myself and seems fairly straight forward. I wanted to add the violence because it is something i havent experienced so obviously learning is needed there. I appreciate your help!
angels mommy!
JP
oh, now another thought...if she hasnt complained about the situation...except to say that is how she obtained the head injury....I didnt really get details on her situation other than she lives with him and her two children. and he has a violent temper. No violence geared towards kids.
I guess I should have asked more questions about the home situation? I didnt really know what to ask so I realize now, I just didnt.
I will read the articles before further comments.
angels mommy.
The focus is always on her, the patient, and what she tells you. Deal with the evidence that you get.
ok, so i read both articles, I think it gives me a better understanding not only of the situation but of what kind of questions to ask. I think what you ask and what answers you get seem to depend on the level of trust or intimacy you have established with the patient.
I realize that I need to talk more with my patient - although we know each other on a personal level, I dont know a lot about this relationship except that when he beat her this time, she made him leave. And now I want to know, what did she do to actually get him to leave the house and not come back! of course he stalked her afterwards and still does in some ways. He still tries to control her. I know for a fact that the police did not make him leave, the neighbor called the police and they told my friend that her husband would lose his job if she went to the hospital, because then they would have to arrest him (he is a police officer). She didnt go to the hospital til the next day.
And here is the next issue - she has another boyfriend now. He is not physically abusive but he takes advantage of her monetarily - basically lives with her and pays no money toward anything - she is constantly worried about her financial situation with her two kids and he has a good job and pays $0 toward food, rent, household bills. So I ask, how do you get a person like this to change their mindset? And they fight all the time. I talk to her almost weekly about even HOW to talk to him! I worked out the monthly bills with her and showed her that if he was paying her 1/4 of the bills, she would be able to save $800 a month and at the end of a year, she would have the down payment on a small house! I know she wants to buy a house. But I can see she still has the low self esteem even though she has completed lpn school, with good grades! she will doubt that she will get into the rn program, she will doubt herself on tests constantly! I can see how she got into the relationship, but I can't change it for her and I dont know how to help her change her way of thinking....or can I?
I did have her go to counseling but I guess the counselor told her to chuck the new boyfriend and she hasnt so she hasnt gone back to the counselor.
anyway, it gave me a lot of food for thought but I still feel like my hands are tied as far as doing anything! I imagine if I feel this way when she isnt being beaten (anymore), I would feel this way even more if she was!
a lot of what you are posting is assessment (data collection) information that is part of step #1 of the nursing process. some of it is useful for the care plan and some isn't. you also have to focus on what you originally said you were going to do with this care plan which was assume that she had not left her husband. i figured you wanted to do that because you wanted to include this escape plan business in a care plan. it's a good teaching idea to incorporate into a care plan. how can you introduce a boyfriend if you are going to have this patient still living with her husband? make sure you keep focused on what you are doing. a care plan is like a photograph. it is interventions for problems that a patient has for a frozen moment in time. it will eventually change, but for the purpose of writing the care plan (and turning it in for a grade) freeze the picture and events in time and be clear about what problems (and the data that goes into them) you will address.
i just posted an escape plan on the other thread: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-student/care-plan-help-398523.html. it is based on information from a psych book.
how do you get a person like this to change their mindset?
i can see she still has the low self esteem
Yes, i have a disadvantage because i know her outside of a simple care plan. The chronic low self esteem - BINGO! oh my gosh that is so her!! now....I didnt put information to support this in my history. I guess I can add it now that I know more about what questions to ask - as this IS supposed to be a learning experience. would you NOTE on your history if someone didnt look you in the eyes? would you note, self negating verbalizations, indecisiveness, and excessively seeks reassurance or would you put it on the care plan under assessment? I feel like I never did a care plan before, LOL! I guess they were so simple that now that I am trying to do something I have no experience with, I feel like I am feeling around blind!
angels mommy
Morning-glory
258 Posts
Daytonite,
That was awesome work. I wish I had had you around when I was in school. I understood your idea of a care plan better in 10 minutes of reading than I did with 3 years of school. The school I went to used Sister Calista Roy's model. At first I was thrown off by a "philosophy" of nursing. I now understand the point of having a way to sort out all the information gathered, no matter what system in used. At work, the system in use is the Tidal Model as we are a mental health facility and this was designed with that in mind. I'm not entirely "with the program" but I will have another look and see what I can use to be better at what I do. Thank you for spending all that time explaining what a care plan is for and how to build it up into something that makes sense in the real world. Leaning all of this stuff in school was my biggest challenge. First, I wasn't expecting it, second, it made no sense. And third, it was so much work to put it all together. One student in my class (the genius one) had a list of close to 500 behaviours that she sorted all out into 20 goals. It was a master piece, but the rest of us in the class just about stroked out looking at it. There was no way that any of us would be able to get that done in the time that we had. I could do it now that I have been a nurse for 10 years, but would I want to?
Anyway, I wanted to let you know that I did read all of your stuff in this post and I am really impressed with the way you organized it all. Kudos!!
Would you NOTE on your history if someone didnt look you in the eyes? would you note, self negating verbalizations, indecisiveness, and excessively seeks reassurance or would you put it on the care plan under assessment?
Simply note exactly what you observe on your history. If the patient doesn't look you in the eyes when you are talking with them, then state that on the care plan under the assessment along with self negating verbalizations, indecisiveness, and excessively seeks reassurance. Then, because these are abnormal things they also are signs and symptoms that fit in and match with your evidence supporting the problem of Chronic Low Self-Esteem. You can then diagnose Chronic Low Self-Esteem R/T unrealistic expectations of self AEB not looking you in the eyes during speaking with others, self negating verbalizations, indecisiveness, and excessively seeking reassurance. Are you beginning to see how diagnosis works? It starts with assessment of the patient and finding the clues to the problem first, every problem has evidence that supports it, then attaching a name to the problem. Once the problem is identified (that's the nursing diagnosis), you develop a plan of action: goals and nursing interventions. The nursing interventions are specifically aimed at the evidence you have that supports the diagnostic problem--that's why the diagnostic statement says "as evidenced by" for the proof. The goals predict what will happen as a result of those interventions.
daytonite,that was awesome work. i wish i had had you around when i was in school. i understood your idea of a care plan better in 10 minutes of reading than i did with 3 years of school. the school i went to used sister calista roy's model. at first i was thrown off by a "philosophy" of nursing. i now understand the point of having a way to sort out all the information gathered, no matter what system in used. at work, the system in use is the tidal model as we are a mental health facility and this was designed with that in mind. i'm not entirely "with the program" but i will have another look and see what i can use to be better at what i do. thank you for spending all that time explaining what a care plan is for and how to build it up into something that makes sense in the real world. leaning all of this stuff in school was my biggest challenge. first, i wasn't expecting it, second, it made no sense. and third, it was so much work to put it all together. one student in my class (the genius one) had a list of close to 500 behaviours that she sorted all out into 20 goals. it was a master piece, but the rest of us in the class just about stroked out looking at it. there was no way that any of us would be able to get that done in the time that we had. i could do it now that i have been a nurse for 10 years, but would i want to?anyway, i wanted to let you know that i did read all of your stuff in this post and i am really impressed with the way you organized it all. kudos!!
that was awesome work. i wish i had had you around when i was in school. i understood your idea of a care plan better in 10 minutes of reading than i did with 3 years of school. the school i went to used sister calista roy's model. at first i was thrown off by a "philosophy" of nursing. i now understand the point of having a way to sort out all the information gathered, no matter what system in used. at work, the system in use is the tidal model as we are a mental health facility and this was designed with that in mind. i'm not entirely "with the program" but i will have another look and see what i can use to be better at what i do. thank you for spending all that time explaining what a care plan is for and how to build it up into something that makes sense in the real world. leaning all of this stuff in school was my biggest challenge. first, i wasn't expecting it, second, it made no sense. and third, it was so much work to put it all together. one student in my class (the genius one) had a list of close to 500 behaviours that she sorted all out into 20 goals. it was a master piece, but the rest of us in the class just about stroked out looking at it. there was no way that any of us would be able to get that done in the time that we had. i could do it now that i have been a nurse for 10 years, but would i want to?
anyway, i wanted to let you know that i did read all of your stuff in this post and i am really impressed with the way you organized it all. kudos!!
i am glad my explanations are helpful for you. i have a number of others that explain the nursing process and how to construct a nursing diagnostic statement that i think are posted on the help with care plans thread (https://allnurses.com/forums/f50/help-care-plans-286986.html)
i really didn't start understanding care plans and the nursing process until i was several years out of nursing school and had started doing care plans at work. it is because of having a few years of clinical experience under my belt. i was a slow learner. however, once the light bulbs get turned on in my brain there is no getting them turned off!