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Scenario: hemorrhagic CVA, on GT (with dye), tests indicate kidney infarcts. Accuchecks are on the high side, but not >350, with coverage. IVF of NS @50. Ab is distended, fairly firm with +4... Read More

  1. by Sleepyeyes
    Sep 17, '02
    BUN = blood urea nitrogen
    CR = creatinine level of blood

    hmmm....daily wts for CVA, I think, not, more for CHF--but if I'm wrong, please say so!! happy to learn
  2. by jevans
    Sep 17, '02
    I* would also send urine for Benz jones protein due to the fact that BP elevated could have been undiagnosed reason for CVA
  3. by Sleepyeyes
    Sep 17, '02
    AhhhhhhA!

    very interesting!
  4. by jevans
    Sep 17, '02
    I agree with you sleepyeyes no daily weights would not be done in UK unless confirmed renal failure
  5. by kittyw
    Sep 17, '02
    In the ICU where I spent some time we always did daily weights... never knew when someone would code & we would really need those #'s.
  6. by prn nurse
    Sep 17, '02
    If this were a "real" case, and they had a g-tube already.....then, I guess I'd hook that g-tube up to suction.
    So, that means they were probably chronic with something else when they got the acute CVA. I think the hemmorhages in the kidneys are the clue....a hemmorhagic CVA doesn't come with hemmorhages in the kidneys.

    I'd work him up for a brain and kidney transplant.
  7. by Rustyhammer
    Sep 17, '02
    Is he alert? Verbal?
    Any Abdominal pain upon palp?
    sounds more like trauma than a CVA.
  8. by Sleepyeyes
    Sep 18, '02
    OK....
    IVF's DC'd

    +bacteria (Large amt), +ketones, +bili, +blood to UA

    output still ok

    Liver tests being done

    GT feed (diabetic) going, blood sugar is High 200's with coverage

    LOC is aphasic but alert and rousable
  9. by Sleepyeyes
    Sep 18, '02
    Anticoagulant was dc'd
  10. by nimbex
    Sep 18, '02
    Scenario:

    hemorrhagic CVA, on GT (with dye), tests indicate kidney infarcts. Accuchecks are on the high side, but not >350, with coverage. IVF of NS @50. Ab is distended, fairly firm with +4 hypo BS. Resps are occasionally rapid, in conjunction with diaphoresis but no fever.
    Urine starts looking thick and brown-red (somewhat but not real "red" hematuric though) at about 3 am and continues throughout shift.

    What's your plan?

    1. AIRWAY, did they aspirate? check residuals, suction back of throat is there dye there or in mouth, check spo2

    2. If not possibly septic, I would do comprehensive neuro exam diaphoresis and borderline htn, may be neuro, along with a neurogenic bladder along with the chang in resperatory rate

    3. check basic metabolic profile... what is the BUN/creat? what are the last two days I&O? What is the hourly urine output ? The urine sounds amber which is not necessarily blood, if the urine shows blood you have two diagnosis going on.

    4. If aspiration and sepsis is not an issue (seems likely, unless thrombolytics were given, why would the kidney's be taking a hit?) seems septic, do not need a temp to have this.

    5. How long since BM? is there an obstruction? Consider holding feeds.

    6. Accuchecks are high due to tube feeds and stress of illness, I'd change to choice DM or start insulin drip, not a priority.

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