Communicating with the hospital- why is it so hard??
- 0Jul 13, '10 by waterdrop22I need some advice.
I live in an area where having nursing experience is key to getting an hospital job. We have 3 nursing schools in our area and needless to say, have way too many nurses.
I am crazy and fell in love with a NICU at one of our five hospitals during my senior practicum (120hrs spent in your specialty of choice) (oh, and yes, I am a new grad, without experience). At the moment that NICU is only hiring "on call" experienced nurses (I did apply), so I've been applying for every job at that hospital just to get in door.
My question is: Is it okay to walk onto the unit I am applying for and introduce myself to the nurse manager? Or is that stepping over the boundaries set between the nurse recruiter and the nurse manager?
I would really like to go in today, but I don't want to ruin my chances of getting the job.
- 3Jul 13, '10 by llg GuideThat's really irritating and disrespectful to the manager -- who might be totally busy and have no time to see you, but feel obligated to be nice to you. Show your respect for her by demonstrating professionalism and an understanding that she is a busy person.
If you would like to speak with her, write to her and request a conversation by phone or in person to discuss possible things you can do to someday be able to work in a NICU. It's called an "informational interview." Enclose (or attach) a good resume, which should include letters of recommendation from your practicum preceptor.
But don't just drop in unannounced and expect her to be available for you. She might not even be there that day ... or have something really important to do that can't wait ... etc. Get your relationship off to a good start by following the basic rules of courtesy. That will make a much better first impression.
Imagine yourself in her place on a busy day with 100 things to do. Suddenly a new grad shows up unexpectedly, without an appointment, trying to get a job when you have none to offer -- or none that the new grad is qualified. How would you feel if you were her? Happy to see the new grad? or not?
Go through the proper channels regarding the posted position. Seek an informational interview for career advice beyond that one position. Demonstrate respect for the manager and get on her good side by being respectful, courteous, and professiona.
- 1Jul 15, '10 by HouTx GuideIf they are only hiring PRN nurses, that means that they have no vacant positions available. The manager can only hire if there are vacancies to fill. NICU is traditionally one of the areas with lowest turnover. So an unexpected visit with the nurse manager may not produce the best outcome for you.
I am glad that you have adopted a realistic approach in order to get your foot in the door for your first nursing job. It will undoubtedly be in an area that has higher turnover - and more opportunities for new grads. Focus on gaining experience and confidence in your nursing practice until you have a chance to cross-train for NICU. Maybe you could get into an OB/GYN area?
FYI, I also thought I would like NICU - until I actually worked there. I couldn't deal with all the ethical 'gray areas' that seemed to be a daily occurrence so I happily went back to Adult ICU.
- 0Jul 18, '10 by NurseVNYeah, I was wondering the same thing. I did my 300 hour internship on a telemetry unit, did well, introduced myself before I left. The manager said "sure, just come see me." This was back in March. When I got my license in june, I called her secretary to make appointment to see the nurse manager. I emailed her my resume and all. She told the secretary that she only have few positions and can only offer to internal applicants. She never responded to my email. I can't make appointment either.
And, HR person is useless. So, yeah, we new grads are struggling...
- 0Apr 18, '11 by waterdrop22Update:
I did end up going in and talking to the Nurse mangers of both a telemetry unit and the NICU that I had prior experience in (senior practicum/ capstone). Both mangers were receptive to me coming in without an appointment from HR, and they considered it part of the interview process. Unfortunately the PRN NICU position was not approved by corporate (even though I was offered the job) and after 2 meetings with the NICU nurse manger decided to go into LTC while waiting for the position to be approved. I am still in contact with the NICU manger, while working at a small town nursing home (which by the way, I love ... even if it's not where I want to be ultimately). Thank you all for your input! Finding a job as a new graduate was very hard, and I ended up going back to the nursing home I worked with as an NAC. But the economy is improving