DNP Category?

MissM472, BSN · Jun 10, 2009

thank you for representing as a dnp!! there has been alot of negative feedback about that degree. what made you pursue? i was a biology major undergrad. currently pursuing my mph. interested in the cnl --> dnp route. what do you think?

Smitty08 · Jun 24, 2009

Hi

Does cnl mean clinicial nurse leader? I'm not sure that term. The DNP programs vary quite a bit, some have a clinical component, for others its optional as are other optional areas such as education. So I would think it would depend on what you want to do with your education, and also gaining the appropriate clinical content at some stage in your career!

psychonaut · Jun 24, 2009

Considering how much time is spent talking "about" the DNP, and how little is done "by" the DNP, I think it would be great to get some discussion going about what's going on with the profession.

And yes, you'll have to deal with some old topics brought in from "outside", but it's unavoidable (and happens in the forums anyhow, even with a dedicated "sticky" thread for such things).

Maybe start with a thread (like this), and see if it develops enough interest to justifiy a new sub-forum.

Editorial Team / Admin · Jun 24, 2009

We already have a sub-forum for the DNP student here;): https://allnurses.com/post-graduate-nursing/

One question I do have is, once one has the DNP and practices as NP (APN) just like the MSN-prepared NP, what issues would be different between the MSN/DNP degrees?

Smitty08 · Aug 20, 2009

Thats a good question! I think what is changing for me is my overall outlook on healthcare, research and how to integrate it into practice, leadership and such. So...does it make one a better clinician? That's debatable (as seen in the forums here!) Some DNP programs do offer more clinical, so its a little early in the game to see where this is going. I do think I will practice differently: instead of just digesting the tried and true treatments taught in my clinicals, I would step out, look at the research more carefully and function more independently, not just because I was emulating an APRN role taught to me. Bring the best forward and know how to add to it.

elkpark · Aug 20, 2009

instead of just digesting the tried and true treatments taught in my clinicals, I would step out, look at the research more carefully and function more independently, not just because I was emulating an APRN role taught to me. Bring the best forward and know how to add to it.

Not to be argumentative, but that's what my MSN program emphasized ...

efy2178 · Aug 26, 2009

I think the DNP gives more education, networking and planning for those NPs who are looking to start their own practice. This develops confidence and stimulates ideas. There are many MSN NP's practicing and some have started their own practice, but working on a capstone project as part of a DNP degree empowers NPs to start looking at ways in which NPs can effect change in many of the areas of practice. Some are helping to write laws, some are opening up practices in unconventional ways (like starting a practice visiting clients in nursing homes), supermarkets, schools etc. Many MSN prepared NPs can do these things but I think the degree helps invigorate those who want to do these things and it gives them more tools to get the job done.

cruisin_woodward · Aug 27, 2009

Thank you for representing. I'm starting the BSN to DNP program next week... I'll let you know how to goes....

1doodle · Sep 8, 2009

I'm applying to programs right now...I think the true "difference" will be ultimately in the expansion of the NP as community/ national healthcare advocate. The curricula that I have seen emphasize health care systems, economics, etc. Yes, I did receive that information in my MSN program as well. And the argument is that PTs, pharmacists, etc. already are coming prepared with a doctorate, let's get nursing on board as a profession as well. By 2015 AACN recommends the DNP as entry into practice for NPs. Not to worry, MSNs will be grandfathered in. But honestly, most of us did as much work in our MSN programs as most PT/OT/ other allied health professionals do to get a doctorate, let's be recognized for it. Just my $0.02.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Sep 13, 2009

canada not going with the treand for dnp @ this time:

nursing leadership (cjnl), 22(2) 2009: 85-91

practice doctorates in nursing: developing nursing leaders

sonia acorn, kimberley lamarche and margaret edwards

abstract:
over the past two decades, doctor of nursing practice (dnp) degree programs have grown rapidly in the united states, australia and the united kingdom. the dnp has as its emphasis the preparation of leaders for clinical practice, health policy, administration and clinical research. dnp-prepared nurses are in a prime position to work with nurse researchers and to provide leadership in nursing in a variety of settings. dnp programs prepare nurses for the highest level of practice, while phd programs will continue to prepare nurse researchers. both phd and dnp programs are needed to advance nursing knowledge and provide leadership in healthcare.
despite the increase in nursing practice doctorates in other countries, canada does not currently have such programs. the canadian association of schools of nursing (casn 2006a) does not support the concept of professional or practice doctorates. the position of casn is that resources for doctoral-level education in nursing are best placed in phd programs. research-intensive preparation is thought to best serve the current and future health needs of canadians by continuing to build a body of nursing and healthcare research.
in looking towards the future of nursing in canada, villeneuve and macdonald (2006) projected nursing roles and education models to 2020. at the graduate level, they present two options that will exist concurrently. one option is the traditional academic stream, which would continue to prepare nurse scientists. this stream proposes a master of science degree, followed by phd preparation. nurses with phd preparation will continue to build a research agenda and create new knowledge....
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RhodeIslandMSN · Nov 7, 2009

I'm glad to see a thread about the DNP degree. I'm considering applying to a program - just not 100% certain it will help me. I would love to hear from those pursuing the degree and what prompted them to do so. I've had my masters for 10 years - most of my nursing career has been in administration, insurance, QA, etc (non-clinical type roles). Look forward to the discussion - hopefully it will help me decide whether or not I should pursue the degree.

Thanks.