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No. 10
from nursel56
Old Sep 11, 2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ghillbert View Post
So it's a slacker generation and we should just deal with it?

You don't think those behaviors are appalling? I think when the students are asking staff to donate their time, efforts and experience to help them learn, the onus is NOT on the preceptor to deal with their "generational" issues - it's on the preceptor to outline their requirements, and it's on the student to follow them.

Lolling around at the desk, texting or emailing during clinical is NEVER acceptable, no matter what generation the student is from.

PS: I agree though, many kids these days have a huge sense of entitlement and no respect for people in authority (sorry I know that makes me sound like an old bag, but I deal with many of them!).
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No. 11
from llg
Old Sep 11, 2009, 08:44 AM

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We can't use "generational differences" as an excuse for bad behavior. I'm not saying we should crucify the younger students because no one has taught them appropriate professional behavior -- but we should use the situation as a teaching opportunity. I strongly agree with those who suggest clearly articulating the expectatons at the beginning of the shift, giving them a chance or 2 to learn the new behaviors, and then enforcing them. That's the only way the students will learn appropriate behavior.
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No. 12
Old Oct 11, 2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SummerTimeCCRN View Post
So, I've started precepting in my ICU. The students I've had thus far have been senior BSN students and new graduate RN's. When I was starting out in nursing, I would read the night before, ask "smart" questions, and make every effort to try new task and gain new experiences. I have been so disappointed with the ones who have come in to work with me. I understand that new grads will not know ICU drips and calculations, but not knowing what MAP is or means, not knowing that removing the patients o2 cannula can cause a patients o2 sats to drop, and text-ing at the desk, checking their e-mail, and taking random breaks at their convenience seems a little too much for me. I was never like this at a student. How can I get the new nurses or senior nursing students to take some initiative without "telling" their instructor or director, or making them feel dumb and like they can't hang a critical care unit??

Don't you have a hospital policy?? I know breaks, texting and cell phone use is somewhere in there..lol.

As for as knowledge is concern ( Maps, oxygen therapy) if you are precepting, your manager or clinical instructor should be continuously evaluating their work and behavior.

If it was me (I am a tough cookie), I would have them print out the whatever policy they are are in violation of and document that they have read it. Be honest during evaluation time. Preceptors are the doorways into any hospital unit. I am sure you have some pull in saying whether someone is prepared to work in the ICU or not.

Personally I think you are being too nice. They are taking that as a weakness. If I seen my student texting at the desk, I would immediately ask them what they are doing? I would then quote the policy to them. I would then mention all of these things during the meeting with the manager/clinical instructor and they can explain, scold etc.

Letting slackers do these things FOR ONE SECOND will encourage them to believe its okay when it's not. Maybe ICU nursing isn't for them if they think all of that is ok.
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No. 13
from caliotter3
Old Oct 11, 2009, 02:38 PM

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When I went to school, precepting in the ICU was considered a privilege that very few students received. I agree that you should tell them at the beginning what the expectations are and perhaps give one, and one only, warning after that. There are students out there who would die to get a chance to work in the ICU and they would not abuse the privilege.
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No. 14
from daisymae0
Old Oct 14, 2009, 07:45 AM

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Boy I hope I get preceptors like you guys. From what I've read here it's amazing that anyone has time to text, email, much less go to the restroom during the day.
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No. 15
Old Oct 15, 2009, 06:10 AM

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Just thought I'd take a break from studying to laugh a little. I have many associates like you are describing. Unbelievable. I think that some will be good nurses and some won't. Some of the jump in folks are going to be bad nurses too, though...they are just kissing up.

I work super hard. If I sense my preceptor doesn't like me though, I have no choice but to keep my distance. He or She is the seasoned nurse, I don't know what I can and cannot do or say. My way of being respectful and non-confrontational of course.

I think that the texting is crazy. I WOULD say something to their instructor. They should be given a little talking to by someone if you are not going to do it. AND, you have a chance to evaluate them...this is what they need. What happens when they get in the real world? I say give them the reality before they get out there. Let them cry a little.

I have cried on every single rotation, for different reasons. Its a very stressful and emotional time.

I love nursing so far!
Wish me luck on my big test!
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