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    by Feb 19
    American Federation of Teachers [ 1.5 million members ] and National Federation of Nurses [ 34,000 members ] in 5 northerner states come together... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...comm_ref=false
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  4. Feb 20 by
    This will only be successful if the combined union can achieve what our superiors in France have accomplished:

    PARIS (Reuters) - The CEO of a U.S. tire maker has delivered a crushing summary of how some outsiders view France's work ethic in a letter saying he would have to be stupid to take over a factory whose staff only put in three hours work a day.
    Titan International's Maurice Taylor, nicknamed "The Grizz" for his negotiating style, told the left-wing French industry minister in a letter published by media on Wednesday that he had no interest in rescuing a plant set for closure.
    "The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three," Taylor wrote on February 8 in the letter in English to the minister, Arnaud Montebourg.

    "I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that's the French way!" Taylor added in the letter, which was posted by business daily Les Echos on its website and which the ministry confirmed was genuine.
    Hey, this came from the world's foremost news source, so it has to be true.

    It could be given a catchy name (i.e., "The 1-3-3 Plan") or maybe even a cutesy name (i.e., "Arnaud's Law"), virtually guaranteeing success.
  5. Feb 20 by
    It's hard to picture how this benefits the nurses who will be only 2% of the union membership. Nurses and teachers have very different needs in collective bargaining representation and the nurses should not expect attention from the union in excess of their proportion of its membership.
    NRSKarenRN likes this.
  6. Feb 20 by
    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    It's hard to picture how this benefits the nurses who will be only 2% of the union membership. Nurses and teachers have very different needs in collective bargaining representation and the nurses should not expect attention from the union in excess of their proportion of its membership.
    Two percent is still more money that the union did not have before the "big one" was created.

    This will be a "big one", alright.
  7. Feb 20 by
    I worked in a Hospital with a Union...Union's have no place in the Healthcare system period! They help lazy people keep their jobs, and make them have VERY negative attitudes. I will never work in a facility with a union again, it was the worst.
    pmabraham likes this.
  8. Feb 21 by
    That is fine, it will a place for a person who values the protection. Oft employers use the union excuse to not fire problem employees. Build a good case and they will be gone.
    Quote from zombienurse13
    I worked in a Hospital with a Union...Union's have no place in the Healthcare system period! They help lazy people keep their jobs, and make them have VERY negative attitudes. I will never work in a facility with a union again, it was the worst.
    tewdles and herring_RN like this.
  9. Feb 21 by
    Quote from zombienurse13
    I worked in a Hospital with a Union...Union's have no place in the Healthcare system period! They help lazy people keep their jobs, and make them have VERY negative attitudes. I will never work in a facility with a union again, it was the worst.
    Unions definitely have a place in healthcare, just as they do in all other vocations.

    I work in a unionized hospital and it's very different than the experience that you describe... very professional and very hardworking staff.

    The union doesn't guarantee my job, it guarantees codification of the terms of my employment and due process.
    nurse2033, TheCommuter, morte, and 1 other like this.
  10. Feb 21 by
    Unions have a place in any employment situation where the employer is not responsive to the needs and well being of the staff. Not all employers are bad and thus, not all work environments benefit from union rep.
  11. Feb 21 by
    Again the Union has no place in a Hospital.
  12. Feb 22 by
    Quote from zombienurse13
    Again the Union has no place in a Hospital.
    That is your opinion-not a fact. In my opinion, nurses overall are way too overworked, underpaid and disrespected. At least my hospital's union looks out for us nurses. And no, I'm not lazy and negative. I work my tail off as do my fellow union co-workers.
    herring_RN, tewdles, and laborer like this.