Nnoc

lee1 · Jan 14, 2005

My state has been blanketed with their postcards that provide brief information, has yours???

ragingmomster, BSN, MSN, RN · Jan 14, 2005

I'm in MA and have never heard of this.

sorry

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jan 15, 2005

nnoc is a new affiliate of the california nurses association union, and is attempting to organize a national union.

from the cna website frontpage:

affiliated organizations

caregiver and healthcare employees union * american association of registered nurses

southern arizona nurses coalition * st. louis area nurses coalition * california nurses foundation

national nurses organizing committee

i don't quite know why they are creating the national nurses organizing committee, when they already started the american association of registered nurses in 2000, unless nnoc will included lpn's.

karen

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their already is a national nurses union:

uan--"the union for nurses, by nurses--is the largest, most effective union for registered nurses in the country, bringing together 100,000 rns in the federal, private and public sector."

united american nurse began about 2000 when ana nurses through state nurses unions joined together to improve their collective bargining power for nurses via strength in numbers along with a focus on patient advocacy.

"uan nurses, through state nurses associations, raise our voices in our hospitals, in our states and at the national level on issues important to registered nurses delivering direct patient care.

we are active through our union on key issues for rns, and in the legislative and policy arenas."

MissPiggy · Jan 15, 2005

I'm in MA and have never heard of this.
sorry

I'm in Texas (very anti-union state) and have also never heard of it... would be VERY interested in learning more about it, as, I believe, would some of my colleagues.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jan 16, 2005

California group seeks to destabilize state associations, local units http://www.nysna.org/departments/co...4/dec/unity.htm

geekgolightly, BSN, RN · Mar 25, 2005

karen I hope you reply to this... or anyone who has been following NNOC. i want to know if this is something to be trusted or not. I feel almost like I am being duped into joining, as if the CNA made such a fuss in California about staffing ratios in order to draw attention to themselves so that they could become national. I am nervous about a national organization that I know little about. i want to know how people are promoted and how we, the nurses who join, have a say-so in who is fired right to the very top, if we do not like the way they are running the organization.

Does anyone know anything baout the NNOC or the UAN?

I am very pro-organizing and getting things done, but I want to be sure that I, and all of my fellow members have a democratic voice within the organization.

thanks

kathy

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Mar 25, 2005

NNOC is the new national organizing union campign by CNA. Don't have much more info than what I allready posted; don't know officers or how organization is run.

UAN is an established national nursing union composed of those ANA states that have collective bargaining activities/unions. Some of these unions are 20+years old or more in the case of NY state. They are also the union at VA and federal facilities. Head and BOD of UAN are active staff nurses. I've met and spoke to Cheryl Johnson, very empowering critical care nurse from Michigan at ANA conventions. http://nursingworld.org/uan/officers.htm

Let me tell you, they have created a very strong presence at ANA convention where most delegates in collective bargaining states are now beside nurse involved in union activity and VOCAL in setting national ANA policies past 3 conventions.

UAN Issues link: http://nursingworld.org/uan/issues.htm

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Mar 25, 2005

google search only shows nnoc website info posted above; no mention of leadership on site.

did find these organizations expressing concerns:

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[color=#990000]by: deborah hackman, georgia nurses association ceo

webster's dictionary describes an "interloper" as one who intrudes or interferes; an encroachment. you might question why anyone who claims to be professional would want to engage in such behavior. so do i. unfortunately there is a broad scale national effort by the california nurses association (also known as nnoc - national nurses organizing committee) to do just that. georgia is their latest target for encroachment.

http://www.georgianurses.org/ceo%20corner.htm

labor relations board issues complaint against cook county cook/john h. stroger jr. hospital, reports illinois nurses association

http://www.uawdcx.com/resources/laborpr.cfm?acct=uaw_ntc.story&story=/www/story/02-18-2005/0003030627&edate=fri+feb+18+2005,+03:53+pm

south carolina human resources assoc:

california nurses association invites your nurses to join!

flush with success over recent organizing efforts in california and the passage and mandatory staff-nurse ratios in that state, the california nurses association has created a "national nurses organizing committee" (nnoc). in october, the nnoc mailed a letter and brochure that was an 'invitation to join with the california nurses association and rns throughout the nation to help build a new national movement for direct care rns" into many southeastern states.

one goal of the nnoc is to sponsor continuing education sessions on 'topics of the greatest urgency for direct care rns including safe staffing, the latest trends on hospital restructuring, and how to protect your practice." according to the brochure, mail-outs for the sessions will be sent in january to march, 2005.

another goal is to advance the "cause of direct care rns across the nation through effective professional representation, a stronger voice in the legislative and regulatory arena, collective patient advocacy, and building rn power through new organizing".

the cna is positioning itself as an "alternative to the american nurses association/union of american nurses and its affiliated state nurse associations." cna states that the ana has "promoted the interests of nursing management and the hospital industry at the expense of direct care nurses and patient care for far too long. decades of low pay and disrespect for nurses is a legacy of the ana's failure to effectively advocate for direct care rns". http://www.scha.org/documents/nov-dec_newsletter_1.doc

from labor lawyers:

california nurses association using nnoc to move organizing attempts eastward

trumpeting an agenda that purports to advance "the cause of direct care rns across the nation," the california nurses association (cna) is charging eastward with ambitious new organizing tactics that could affect healthcare providers around the nation. cna is seizing upon personnel shortages and the thorny issue of nurse-to-patient staffing ratios to spearhead its efforts. using its newly formed national nurses organizing committee (nnoc), the union has scheduled a series of so-called continuing education sessions, which are likely to amount to little more than thinly veiled organizing meetings. this is not the first time that the cna has used ostensible "education sessions" to drum up support. this time, however, the union has apparently refined its approach and planned it more carefully.

the upcoming "educational" programs are entitled, "collective patient advocacy: strategies to promote a single standard for safe patient care."

http://www.laborlawyers.com/cm/important%20new%20legal%20developments/healthcare%20labor%20alert%20%20cna%20jan.%202005.pdf

cna: creating disunity rather than building "one voice

hpae's 11,000 members have made significant gains in recent years, we continue to fight for improved staffing, quality patient care, and good wages and benefits. unfortunately, our efforts are hampered by the lack of coordination and unity among health care unions in new jersey and southeastern pennsylvania.

in new jersey, hpae is by far the largest union for health care professionals. however, six other unions represent nurses and ten unions represent hospital workers as a whole. there is virtually no coordination among those unions. because health care unions are not working together with "one voice," we are all failing to build the maximum strength to establish high standards of wages, benefits, and conditions.

given the need for coordination and unity, it is all the more unfortunate that another union - based in california - has expanded its operations to new jersey. the california nurses association (cna) is attempting to recruit registered nurses in new jersey to a new group they created, the national nurses organizing committee (nnoc)....

the cna/nnoc's efforts are counterproductive because they will cause more destructive competition among health care unions...

they appear to be targeting nurses who are already organized in other unions. the union lingo for this is "raiding". raiding another union to get their members is prohibited in the afl-cio, the national labor organization with whom hpae is affiliated. however, the california nurses association is not part of the afl-cio, so their actions, as detrimental as they might be, are outside of the scope of decent union principles and conduct.

http://www.hpae.org/clarion_0105.htm

-jt · Mar 26, 2005

heres a couple to add to your list, Karen

California Nurses Association Targets ANA Members

http://www.missourinurses.org/pdf/cna_response.pdf

NNOC's Hype to Nurses

http://www.laborlawyers.com/CM/ClientAlerts/Laboralert%20CA%20Nurses%20NNOC%20Educ.pdf

-jt · Mar 26, 2005

Does anyone know anything about the NNOC or the UAN?
thanks
kathy

I can tell you about the UAN but youll get more detailed info from our website http://www.UANnurse.org

Karen got it right except that the UAN is not part of the ANA. It was initially created by staff nurse members of the ANA but it is now a separate, independent, self-governing, self-financing, autonomous labor union for direct care RNs only and is run by them. The UAN is affiliated with the AFL-CIO and the ANA and as such, has a strong voice in both organizations. But the ANA has no voice in the UAN. The ANA is not involved in the function or activity of the UAN nor does it have any control over us or our finances.

The UAN is not the ANA.

The UAN is the largest union of nurses and is the one and only national union for direct care nurses (staff nurses). All of the 105,000 (so far) members from coast to coast (including Alaska & Hawaii), the delegates, and the executive board are all working direct care nurses represented for collective bargaining by their state nurses assoc or one nearby if their own state nurses assoc doesnt have a collective bargaining branch. (ie: NJ state nurses assoc does not provide collective bargaining so they have an agreement with NY state nurses assoc to provide union services to their members).

The NNOC is the organizing branch of the CNA created, as I understand it, to "organize" for CNA in other states. But instead, they have been raiding groups of nurses in other states who are already organized in other unions. They are currently disrupting unionized nurses in Chicago. Staff nurses in NYC recently threw them out of their hospital when they showed up to distribute flyers trying to turn the nurses against their union. Nurses in Hawaii threw them out when they tried to take over their union and prevent the Hawaii nurses union from joining UAN. And those nurses had to go so far as to get a court order to keep them out so they could take their vote without outside interference. There are several posts somewhere on this board from Hawaii nurses telling all about what that organization put them through.

The Hawaii Nurses Assoc staff nurses fought the attempted hostile take-over & voted 5:1 to join UAN and they are our newest members.

Instead of going around the country trying to break apart other unionized nurses, that Calif union should be working together with all of the others to combat the common problems we're all facing on the frontlines. Out of the 330,000 RNs in Calif, only approx 60,000 have joined them. It seems to me that it would make more sense for that union to focus on organizing the unorganized nurses in their own state before they take their members dues money across the country & spend it trying to tear apart other nurses.

-jt · Mar 26, 2005

Geek,

Nurses in Hawaii who had first hand experience with one of the organizations youre asking about tell about it in the following thread:

https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85409&highlight=Aloha+Hawaii