The Great American Hospital Organizing Campaign has begun! - page 2

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today the california nurses association/national nurses organizing committee (cna/nnoc) and the service employees international union (seiu) announced an accord to work together to bring union representation to all non-union rns... Read More


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    Quote from SandraCVRN
    I'm more concerned about 2 groups that just months ago were both telling me how horrible the other was.

    Sorry I was unclear about which two groups I was talking about, my tired brain knew I was talking about different things. (doctors/unios) I meant NNOC/CNA & SEIU less than 6 months ago they were both telling me (personally) how bad the other was.

    I am not against unions, it just scares me that now they seem to be buddies.

    Sorry again for the miscommunication.
    The only scary thing to me is the politicians who seem to have been bought off with insurance and drug company money. The status quo is good for them and they'd rather people fight about whether unions are good or bad and not deal with real issues. It's going to take a lot of hard work to keep the momentum going on our single payer grassroots organizing movement, and union members must lock arms and lead the way to create social change.

    When unions are strong, the country thrives. I believe these union leaders understand that if you want to see a stable middle class, dignity, for working people, and a more secure future for America, unions must be strengthened. The barriers to organizing must be brought down, and our fundamental rights to freedom of association must be restored. Both unions are working to win support for the Employee Free Choice Act.

    It's refreshing that our union leaders have reached this accord and have demonstrated that principled compromise is achievable, without compromising principles. They're doing what's right for nurses and patients and all workers.
    SEIU's Andy Stern was quoted in the New York Times as saying:
    “We spent a lot of time watching each other and at times competing with each other, and now we think it’s the right time to work together.”

    The Executive Director of the National Nurses Organizing Committee, Rose Ann DeMoro, was quoted in the same article and stated, “We have a moment to seize,” she said. “We have to show hospitals that health care reform is the right thing to do.”
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    What Stern was trying to say was, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". He can pack up his SEIU and get it the heck out of our hospital. I've been in a union my entire working life. The SEIU is not a union,
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    Scaring info for all concerned. Will wait and see.
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    rn 'super union' takes next step in building strong national voice for nurses with focus on organizing
    interim leadership established - founding convention set for december

    chicago – three influential nurses' organizations late last week set in motion a process for building what some are already calling an rn "super union" with a 150,000 member united organization that will become the largest union and professional association of registered nurses in u.s. history....

    http://www.calnurses.org/media-cente...g.html?print=t
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    As a Texas Pediatric NP, i can honestly say that we are glad the union is NOT at our hospital. We have a strong enough voice ourselves and don't need others to speak for us. Its sickening that even one hospital in Tx has let the CNA in their doors. The day they enter our institution will be my last day as an employee.
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    Quote from PICUPNP
    As a Texas Pediatric NP, i can honestly say that we are glad the union is NOT at our hospital. We have a strong enough voice ourselves and don't need others to speak for us. Its sickening that even one hospital in Tx has let the CNA in their doors. The day they enter our institution will be my last day as an employee.
    Is this your opinion or , are you authorized to speak ,for all the nurses in your hospital ( or are you just using " we " to appear as though you are talking for others ?). I would be very surprised if ALL the nurses at your hospital feel as you do ( rarely in any place does everybody think the same on any matter ).

    As to the one hospital in Tx that is unionized , I think you will find the hospital DID NOT let the CNA represent the staff , without there being a vote , in which the nurses voted the union in .

    If ever a union seeks representation at the hospital you work at , the democratic process will take place ( if enough nurses ask for an election ) , then either you will have to accept the democratic process or leave your employment if you cannot accept a positive vote for the union , or if the union loses the vote you will be happy and not have to fulfill your threat .
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    It's definitely my opinion and that of some of the nurses, not everybody's opinion. I just think that its sad that people need someone else to speak for them. The union is not here and hopefully they won't be in my lifetime. I now work with a PNP who was part of a union at one time and is very glad to be out of that situation. Nurse don't need others to speak for them. They need to stand up and speak for theirselves.

    With regard to the democratic process, if indeed some idiot invited the cna/nnoc to our institution and a vote is held, the democratic process will prevail. However, there are plenty of other hospitals that are not in your so-called super union where i would gladly work. The mention of my not working at a unionized facility is not a threat in the least..just fact. I don't believe that unions have any place in the medical field and from looking at these forums, I'm not the only one.
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    Quote from picupnp
    it's definitely my opinion and that of some of the nurses, not everybody's opinion. i just think that its sad that people need someone else to speak for them agreed , but remember often when just one person speaks up , they face the backlash of management by themselves , whilst in a union , ( if membership , is active )there is one loud collective voice .. the union is not here and hopefully they won't be in my lifetime. i now work with a pnp who was part of a union at one time and is very glad to be out of that situation. nurse don't need others to speak for them. they need to stand up and speak for theirselves again i agree , but lets be honest , if you do , you leave yourself open to retribution or blackballing by such as group 1 intexas.

    with regard to the democratic process, if indeed some idiot invited the cna/nnoc to our institution and a vote is held, the democratic process will prevail. however, there are plenty of other hospitals that are not in your so-called super union where did i talk of any particular union , you devalue your comments by such emotive phrases , i know there are problems in being a member of a union , which are mitigated when you have an active membership .where i would gladly work. the mention of my not working at a unionized facility is not a threat in the least..just fact i understood , that from your original posting , i did not wish to devalue your statement , just couldn't think of another way to phrase my response. i don't believe that unions have any place in the medical field and from looking at these forums, i'm not the only one. true , as there are many who support unions in the healthcare field
    if the healthcare facility is well run and cares for it's greatest asset , its staff , there will be no discontent which can then coaelesce into a desire to unionize that facility , whether or not a facility unionizes is in the hands of its management .
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