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No. 20
from NICU_RN_CN
Old Jan 23, 2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jwk View Post
I'm simply challenging your statement that you're "held up to a higher standard that any of our peers".

We are held to the same standards as our PEERS!!! I am just as competent as an anesthesiologist. I wont get started on AA's.
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No. 21
from jwk
Old Jan 23, 2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NICU_RN_CN View Post
We are held to the same standards as our PEERS!!! I am just as competent as an anesthesiologist. I wont get started on AA's.
You can't get started on them because you know absolutely nothing about them first-hand, only what you've read.

And as I've already pointed out, CRNA's are absolutely NOT held to the the same recertification standards as anesthesiologists - the standard for CRNA's is lower, period. The fact that the AANA is toying with the idea of starting one is simple proof of that.
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No. 22
from NRSKarenRN
Old Jan 24, 2009, 12:20 AM

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Hummmmmmmmmmmmm...looks like their doing away with ABA exam and moving to career portfolio review.

The American Board of Anesthesiology is replacing its Recertification in Anesthesiology program with the Maintenance of Certification in Anesthesiology (MOCAŽ) program. The voluntary program for Anesthesiology Recertification will end in 2009.
If your ABA certificate is not time limited and you think you have a need to recertify, you must apply for admission to the Anesthesiology Recertification examination by December 31, 2008. No applications will be accepted after this date. Currently either program is available to ABA diplomates who were certified prior to January 1, 2000.
The ABA issued diplomates certified on or after January 1, 2000 a certificate that is valid for 10 years. Diplomates with a time-limited certificate must satisfactorily complete Maintenance of Certification in Anesthesiology (MOCAŽ) before their time-limited certificate expires to maintain diplomate status in the specialty. The Recertification in Anesthesiology program is not available to these diplomates.

http://www.theaba.org/anesthesiology-maintenance.aspx


Additionally, MOCA allows all diplomates to demonstrate continuing qualifications. Each MOCA cycle is a 10-year period of ongoing Lifelong Learning and Self-Assessment; continual assessment of Professional Standing (medical licensure); periodic assessments of Practice Performance; and assessment of Cognitive Expertise.http://www.theaba.org/mocafaq.aspx
Sounds similar to:

AANA: Frequently Asked Questions for Recertification completed every TWO years.
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No. 23
from NICU_RN_CN
Old Jan 24, 2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jwk View Post
You can't get started on them because you know absolutely nothing about them first-hand, only what you've read.

And as I've already pointed out, CRNA's are absolutely NOT held to the the same recertification standards as anesthesiologists - the standard for CRNA's is lower, period. The fact that the AANA is toying with the idea of starting one is simple proof of that.

Well I do know first hand since I am a CRNA. I have worked with AA's and AA students. They are typically behind the ball. Due to a lack of experience. JWK I am so happy you can assume what I know and what I have read. We all know what assuming makes us!
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No. 24
Old Jan 25, 2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jwk View Post
The fact that the AANA is toying with the idea of starting one is simple proof of that.
The AANA is not 'toying' with the idea of recertification, Recertification has been a requirement since the 1960's. Every nurse anesthetist is Certified and maintains their certification through recertification. The Council on Recertification of Nurse Anesthetists is continuously evaluating the best way of improving patient care through Recertification. An exam has little to support it rather than it has face value, meaing it sounds good if you really don't understand much about anesthesia. There is little correlation between having good test taking abilities and clinical performance. Unfortunately sometimes face value is more important than it should be. Also it is not productive to attempt to create tension between CRNAs and Anesthesiologitsts through pointless comparisons. Patient care is the focus.
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No. 25
Old Jan 25, 2009, 11:52 PM

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...Back to the main topic of this thread....

Jax13, What have you learned about your situation since you last posted on Jan 15, and what have you decided to do? My heart goes out to you.
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No. 26
from jwk
Old Jan 26, 2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN View Post
Hummmmmmmmmmmmm...looks like their doing away with ABA exam and moving to career portfolio review.


Sounds similar to:

AANA: Frequently Asked Questions for Recertification completed every TWO years.
Taking things out of context makes it difficult to interpret. The recertification process in anesthesiology was optional prior to 2000. Those finishing in 2000 or later are required to participate in the MOCA process, which DOES include a recertification exam, as a condition of maintaining board certification.

The initial certification exam remains unchanged.


Originally Posted by loveanesthesia View Post
The AANA is not 'toying' with the idea of recertification, Recertification has been a requirement since the 1960's. Every nurse anesthetist is Certified and maintains their certification through recertification. The Council on Recertification of Nurse Anesthetists is continuously evaluating the best way of improving patient care through Recertification. An exam has little to support it rather than it has face value, meaing it sounds good if you really don't understand much about anesthesia. There is little correlation between having good test taking abilities and clinical performance. Unfortunately sometimes face value is more important than it should be. Also it is not productive to attempt to create tension between CRNAs and Anesthesiologitsts through pointless comparisons. Patient care is the focus.
Again, taking things out of context makes it more difficult to understand, so let's be clear - the AANA is in fact toying with the idea of a recertification exam. By your logic, there would be no sense in even taking an initial certification exam. Is that what your position would be?

You may not like the comparisons, but they are certainly not pointless. CRNA's are not the same as anesthesiologists, regardless of how much they would like the public to think they are.
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No. 27
Old Jan 26, 2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jwk View Post


By your logic, there would be no sense in even taking an initial certification exam. Is that what your position would be?

You may not like the comparisons, but they are certainly not pointless. CRNA's are not the same as anesthesiologists, regardless of how much they would like the public to think they are.
I addressed the initial certification in a previous post, but it was a long post, so I'll repeat: The initial certification exam is not the best indication of competence, the fact that the graduate completed and graduated from a nurse anesthesia program where their practice was observed by experts and judged to be safe is the best indication.

The comparison is pointless to me, evidently you find value in it, but what we agree on is that CRNA's are not the same as anesthesiologists. You're right and you have the last word.
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No. 28
from Qwiigley
Old Jan 28, 2009, 11:39 AM

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Last time I checked, the name of this website was ALLNURSES.com
Am I wrong?
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No. 29
from sbgradinnb
Old Jan 28, 2009, 09:58 PM

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Can you PLEASE let us know whaat CRNA school you attended!
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