Attention NC Residents

Specialties CRNA

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Okay guys, here we go again. We're the latest state in which the MDA's are trying to restrict our practice, as well as make it legal for AA's to work here. A bill is currently being introduced into the NC legislature titled "NC Anesthesia Patient Safety and Access Act." I don' t know all the details, but it's my basic understanding that the NCASA is trying to make it seem that we need more supervision, that anesthesia needs to be provided by someone whom they can have more control over. Their proposed solution is AA's. I know in other states it's hard to tell the difference b/t an AA and CRNA within an anesthesia dept. This act makes it seem as if MDA's will be constantly over an AA's shoulder. It attempts to call us as CRNA's unsafe, in not so many words. It also says there is a shortage of anesthesia providers, despite the fact we've increased to FIVE anesthesia schools in our state alone. This bill is a DIRECT ATTACK on our profession, and we will all regret it if it passes!!!

So here's what you need to do. If possible, visit or send a letter to your NC state representative and senator. (from your county or district). You can find this out by going to http://www.ncleg.net and either entering your zip code or voter's registration number. Once you find out who your legislator's are, at the VERY LEAST give them a call. Here is a sample of what to say:" Hello, my name is _______ and I am a CRNA (or CRNA student) in your voting district. I'm calling to ask that you NOT support the NC anesthesia pt safety and access act. My contact information is ______, and I would be happy to give you or your staff more information regarding this recently proposed bill."

Even if you're not into politics, just consider this: if this passes and AA's come into NC, we will no longer be in as much demand and your salary will eventually go down. Maybe money will motivate you to call if simply supporting the profession of nurse anesthesia isn't enough.

So, before all the AA's on here flame me, just chill out. This act basically says you guys are incompetent without an MDA holding your hand. Be pi**ed at me if you want, but I'm just trying to protect my future profession and career.

If anyone wants more info, visit the NCANA website. Thanks!

Specializes in Anesthesia.
...... I won't knock CRNA's (which actually, I never have, except for those who rag on AA's because it's the politically correct thing to do in AANA-dom) and I'll just promote my own profession. .....

I'm sure you could find the proper forum in which to promote AAs, somewhere. This ain't it. Over and over and over here, you shill for the A$A.

Do not expect to find a sympathetic ear on a CRNA forum. Why should you be surprised or disappointed and turn all snotty and snide on us, when you do evoke the hostile responses that you seem to desire, trolling for validation here, seeking authenticity here, over and over and over?

One definition of psychosis is repeating and repeating one's actions without ever getting a different response.

deepz

I'm sure you could find the proper forum in which to promote AAs, somewhere. This ain't it. Over and over and over here, you shill for the A$A.

Do not expect to find a sympathetic ear on a CRNA forum. Why should you be surprised or disappointed and turn all snotty and snide on us, when you do evoke the hostile responses that you seem to desire, trolling for validation here, seeking authenticity here, over and over and over?

One definition of psychosis is repeating and repeating one's actions without ever getting a different response.

deepz

Deep Z, I think you're my new hero. Preach on. If I wasn't so friggin busy studying right now, I'd love to write some long insightful post. But, Stoelting calls, and I'm off to answer.

I believe in fighting for the future of our profession and I often wonder how many of us on this board actually do something about it rather than waste our time hiding behind keyboards insulting others. I applaud NCgirl for informing us of this issue, I often cruise the AANA and state website to look for current issues that may affect my future practice. We all have such strong feelings but let's try to remain respectful and remember this is an open forum. Jwk has been a member of this board for a while and has provided many insightful threads.

I'm sure you could find the proper forum in which to promote AAs, somewhere. This ain't it. Over and over and over here, you shill for the A$A.

Do not expect to find a sympathetic ear on a CRNA forum. Why should you be surprised or disappointed and turn all snotty and snide on us, when you do evoke the hostile responses that you seem to desire, trolling for validation here, seeking authenticity here, over and over and over?

One definition of psychosis is repeating and repeating one's actions without ever getting a different response.

deepz

Z, I'm not trying to promote AA's on this forum. We both agree I wouldn't get very far. Nor do I expect (or look for) sympathy. I don't seek validation or "authenticity" (whatever that's supposed to mean) either. I certainly don't need that from anyone here.

My main point in these posts is to counter anything that turns up as misinformation or outright lies about my profession. And maybe some will see we're not the devil incarnate that we're made out to be - although I know you'll never change your mind ;)

I've actually learned a lot about CRNA's on this board by participating in these discussions. Hopefully some of the CRNA's have learned some factual information about AA's.

Don't beat me up, but I agree.

Last time I looked there were something like 92 CRNA schools pumping out our kind...but only two AA schools. Is there really a serious threat to our practice by these guys?

I too gather insightful info from jwk, we already chased off georgiaAA from this forum. We may not be in bed with tenesma or jwk (from the ASA standpoint), but they are both competent anesthesia providers and further our understanding of the art of our chosen profession.

Like the "politics" thread recently brought up, nurses have almost always rolled over and played passive when the going got rough. There are something like 28,000 CRNAs out there. You would think that we had a stronger voice out there. You should probably blame the AANA and the individual providers that have failed to support our association that is supposed to lobby for what we seek. Taking it out on jwk may be like shooting the messenger.

If you'd like to contribute to the NCANA's opposition of H503 send a check to the NC Strategic Reserve Fund.

You can go online to

http://www.ncana.com and donate there. You can use credit card or send a check.

In-state North Carolinians can contribute to our PAC fund if they'd like but I've been told that these PAC funds can't be used when the General Assembly is in session. We can, however, use the SRF funds however and whenever we'd like. So as of now, it probably is best to donate the the Strategic Reserve Fund.

Thanks in advance.

skipaway

JWK, has posted he will put his skills up against a CRNA anyday. You know what? to say that on a nurse anesthetist board, then claim he supervises CRNA's. He is clearly looking for validation. He is in the wrong forum, try Studendoctor.net. In fact he posts on Studentdoctor.net quite often, In fact he has posted many times against CRNA's. Preaching to medical students how he(see assitants) believe in the Anesthesia care team, we would never try to do what the CRNA's are doing blah, blah, blah. Be very careful about welcoming his comments on this forum he says one thing to us and another thing as he sucks up to residents and interns on Studentdoctor.net .

Though there are only two schools now. I know of two currently trying to be set up. One is here in Texas, check the TANA website.

Reading over this email, It is hash but CRNA's know in your hearts JWK is not posting on our board to help us, but more to verify himself..seeking acceptance.

Acceptance denied. UR

If you'd like to contribute to the NCANA's opposition of H503 and you are not a resident of NC, send a check to the NC Strategic Reserve Fund.

You can go online to

http://www.ncana.com and donate there. You can use credit card or send a check.

In-state North Carolinians can contribute to our PAC fund if they'd like.

Thanks in advance.

skipaway

Thanks skipaway. Just donated on line. By the way everyone, donating on line was very simple and efficient.

Skipaway, thanks for your help! I knew if I got this thread started, that there would have to be some NC CRNA's who would know more.

JWK, has posted he will put his skills up against a CRNA anyday. You know what? to say that on a nurse anesthetist board, then claim he supervises CRNA's. He is clearly looking for validation. He is in the wrong forum, try Studendoctor.net. In fact he posts on Studentdoctor.net quite often, In fact he has posted many times against CRNA's. Preaching to medical students how he(see assitants) believe in the Anesthesia care team, we would never try to do what the CRNA's are doing blah, blah, blah. Be very careful about welcoming his comments on this forum he says one thing to us and another thing as he sucks up to residents and interns on Studentdoctor.net .

Though there are only two schools now. I know of two currently trying to be set up. One is here in Texas, check the TANA website.

Reading over this email, It is hash but CRNA's know in your hearts JWK is not posting on our board to help us, but more to verify himself..seeking acceptance.

Acceptance denied. UR

Being one of those older (ancient) students, I have a little bit of experience in the politics of life. I have respect for some of those who have posted here who are not associated with the CRNA/SRNA/CRNAwanabe club. Some have been informative. That being said, it is easy to be naive about people's intentions. Make no mistake, there are folks out there monitoring us just like we monitor them. There's too much at stake not to.

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