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Apr 13, 2004 10:33 PM

aa's

by jbro

how many states are aa's practicing in currently? how close are they to getting approval in other states? I guess what i'm worried about is the fact that i'll be $140,000 in debt with student loans when i finish school and it would really suck if crna pay was decreased so much that i wouldn't be able to pay off my loans, how realistic is this concern?


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No. 1
from user69
Old Apr 14, 2004, 09:29 AM

Are you counting your undergrad loans also? That is alot of money for a 2.5 year program.
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No. 2
from Sheri257
Old Apr 14, 2004, 10:33 AM

I believe seven states currently license AA's. I also believe bills are pending in Florida and with the local District of Columbia government to do the same.

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No. 3
from user69
Old Apr 14, 2004, 11:09 AM

There is a job on gasswork.com in D.C. paying 120K-130K

I guess they can already practice there.

I have read the posts saying that Ohio and Georgia have lower CRNA pay due to AAs, how low is it? If they are paying an AA up to 130K in a competing market, what is the CRNA making in those markets?


Allen
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No. 4
from Sheri257
Old Apr 14, 2004, 11:50 AM
Updated Apr 16, 2004 at 12:47 AM by Sheri257

Originally Posted by user69
There is a job on gasswork.com in D.C. paying 120K-130K

I guess they can already practice there.
Actually, there's currently a big fight over this in D.C. CRNA's allege MD's are illegally using AA's there, while the city council is considering legislation to address the issue, since the dispute apparently revolves around what is or isn't currently allowed under D.C. law.

There have been several hearings on it but, so far, no decision yet.

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No. 5
from athomas91
Old Apr 14, 2004, 02:21 PM

it is a frightening reality - more for our patients than for us!! however - the CRNA's around the states are uniting in fighting this -- read the post about AA's in Florida - the vote is next wk - and although the post is long - there are some GREAT points about safety and training of AA's - ones that we need to be familiar w/ in order to promote patient safety in either 1) not using AA's or 2) having strict guidelines under which they can work in DIRECT supervision of a MDA.


in the long run - there is such a shortage of anesthesia providers - that is predicted to double in the next 10 years - there are not enough of us in school right now to fill the void - so as for the OP - your career will likely not suffer due to the use of AA's - I would however become involved in the AANA and remain vigilent so that should the issue become a larger problem - we have the knowledge and resources to combat it.
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No. 6
from jbro
Old Apr 14, 2004, 03:34 PM

no, between tuition, rent, truck note, insurance, and misc. expenses, and no employement or other source of income i'm completely dependent of loans, i'm sure it will be worth the expense though

Originally Posted by user69
Are you counting your undergrad loans also? That is alot of money for a 2.5 year program.
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No. 7
from Sheri257
Old Apr 14, 2004, 04:21 PM

BTW. I looked up the postion on gasworks and, unless I'm looking at the wrong thing, it looks like a CRNA job, not an AA position.

http://www.gaswork.com/cgi-bin/ipblt...0#REQUIREMENTS

Am I missing something?
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No. 8
from user69
Old Apr 14, 2004, 09:00 PM

Here is the job that I was talking about. Looks like they will take anything they can get.

http://www.gaswork.com/cgi-bin/ipblt...ostIDNum=11287
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No. 9
from Sheri257
Old Apr 15, 2004, 06:30 AM
Updated Apr 15, 2004 at 06:42 AM by Sheri257

Originally Posted by user69
Here is the job that I was talking about. Looks like they will take anything they can get.

http://www.gaswork.com/cgi-bin/ipblt...ostIDNum=11287
Wow. They'll also pay an AA the comparable CRNA salary of $120,000. I had no idea they could make this much.

Maybe I should seriously consider AA school. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em ???

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